This used to be 5 shells untill very recently did it not? because 5 bleached shells for a great shield seems pretty fair to me, but It looks like it got changed in a recent update.
Thanks to a friend for bringing this to my attention!
What do you guys think? I am sure if you aren't a shell farmer you are pretty happy.
Collector for shells feels generous - wack for shell farmers!
Amsterdam
Da Cebuano
oh great, I just got 1 recently, I could've gotten 3 
Markaedw
I can see why, +45 and -2 is no longer the max, I hear that the max is now +60 and -3, but what is interesting the headgear guy oly wants 2 now also.
Align
No, 45 and 2 are still max for While Stance, but While Hexed has max 60. Dunno about -3.
Bleached shells are so hard to get by anyway(what with wurms being rather uncommon enemies), that's a way more fair amount to ask for.
Bleached shells are so hard to get by anyway(what with wurms being rather uncommon enemies), that's a way more fair amount to ask for.
Amsterdam
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Originally Posted by Align
No, 45 and 2 are still max for While Stance, but While Hexed has max 60. Dunno about -3.
Bleached shells are so hard to get by anyway(what with wurms being rather uncommon enemies), that's a way more fair amount to ask for. Not really for a shield that rivals malinons shield which goes for 45k.
Bleached shells are so hard to get by anyway(what with wurms being rather uncommon enemies), that's a way more fair amount to ask for. Not really for a shield that rivals malinons shield which goes for 45k.
TehTomato
2k for a shield that's better than victo's bulwark, gg anet.
Big_Iron
Wow! Anti-nerfing.
MirageCloud
aw crap, farming bleached shells is my main source of income, i get like 20 shells/hour if i'm lucky
Mournblade
*petitions for 3shell or 3k refund* lol
TRIvario
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Originally Posted by Align
No, 45 and 2 are still max for While Stance, but While Hexed has max 60. Dunno about -3.
Bleached shells are so hard to get by anyway(what with wurms being rather uncommon enemies), that's a way more fair amount to ask for. Did they update gold stance shields? because the last time I checked gold shields max at +30hp in stance. The carapace shield was the only one with +45 in stance
Bleached shells are so hard to get by anyway(what with wurms being rather uncommon enemies), that's a way more fair amount to ask for. Did they update gold stance shields? because the last time I checked gold shields max at +30hp in stance. The carapace shield was the only one with +45 in stance
Tsunami Rain
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Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet
Wow! Anti-nerfing.
actually, thats sort of weak-sauce-nerfing the shell farming industry.
Cowboy Nastyman
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Originally Posted by TRIvario
Did they update gold stance shields? because the last time I checked gold shields max at +30hp in stance. The carapace shield was the only one with +45 in stance
actually 30 is the max for unconditional life bonus 45 is max for enchant and stance rare or not
Haggard
~Health~
+30 = unconditional
+45 = stance/enchanted
+60 = hexed
~Reduces~
-5 (20% chance) = unconditional
-2 = stance/enchanted
-3 = hexed
+30 = unconditional
+45 = stance/enchanted
+60 = hexed
~Reduces~
-5 (20% chance) = unconditional
-2 = stance/enchanted
-3 = hexed
Amsterdam
thanks for the constructive post haggard 
kvndoom
Well now! That makes Etterwyn angry!
dont feel no pain
Rofl i think you scared him
kc99
This should actually increase sales of shells now!
More peeps are likely to part with 2k than 5k, Whadda ya think?
More peeps are likely to part with 2k than 5k, Whadda ya think?
Jiao Yang
lol finally a friendly update.. (well not to shell farmers)
I will get a few now
I will get a few now
IIIPowerIII
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Originally Posted by TehTomato
2k for a shield that's better than victo's bulwark, gg anet.
When ppl will see the difference... Victo Require STR and collector require Tactic!!! That a big difference... We finally got 1 Str shield collector, the 60hp/-3dam Hexed. I only want one for Stance now...
With this patch they boosted Gold shield in stance to 45hp? before it was +30. Only hexed/enchanted was able to hit 45hp.
With this patch they boosted Gold shield in stance to 45hp? before it was +30. Only hexed/enchanted was able to hit 45hp.
Zui
Well, on gold drops -3 hexed has always been possible. Fairly sure -3 stance and -3 enchant have also been possible, however I have not personaly gotten one, so I cannot verify it.
Francis Crawford
I don't understand the logic of the complaints. Shells just went UP in value by a substantial amount.
dont feel no pain
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Originally Posted by Zui
Well, on gold drops -3 hexed has always been possible. Fairly sure -3 stance and -3 enchant have also been possible, however I have not personaly gotten one, so I cannot verify it.
ok i'll give sheild info
everyone of these stats are max
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+60 health (while hexed)
+45 health (while enchated)
+45 (stance) <-- only on pvp sheilds , collectors sheild , grognars sheild
+30 (stance) on gold pve sheilds
+30 always
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-2 (enchanted)
-5 (20% chance)
-2 (stance)
-3 (while hexed)
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quick recovery from ...dazed, crippled, bleeding, poisen , disease, deep wound, weakness.
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armor +8 vs all types of pshyical dmg and ele dmg (cold attacks , slashing dng , blunt dmg, pericing dmg, fire , lightning dmg ...............
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+1 (attribute) (20% chance)
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sheilds can have 2 out of all these , but cannot combo these below
+health
+ health
quick recovery from....
quick recovery from....
+ armor
+armor
+ attirbute
+ attirbtue
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the only ones it can combo is dmg reduction , these do exist
-2 (stance) -2 (enchanted)
-2 (enchanted) -3 (while hexed)
-2 (stance) -3(while hexed)
-2 (stance) -5 (20% chance)
-2 (while enchanted) -5 (20% chance)
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you can pretty much have combinations with seperate types in al lways but there will only be 2 at max.
everyone of these stats are max
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+60 health (while hexed)
+45 health (while enchated)
+45 (stance) <-- only on pvp sheilds , collectors sheild , grognars sheild
+30 (stance) on gold pve sheilds
+30 always
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-2 (enchanted)
-5 (20% chance)
-2 (stance)
-3 (while hexed)
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quick recovery from ...dazed, crippled, bleeding, poisen , disease, deep wound, weakness.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
armor +8 vs all types of pshyical dmg and ele dmg (cold attacks , slashing dng , blunt dmg, pericing dmg, fire , lightning dmg ...............
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
+1 (attribute) (20% chance)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
sheilds can have 2 out of all these , but cannot combo these below
+health
+ health
quick recovery from....
quick recovery from....
+ armor
+armor
+ attirbute
+ attirbtue
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
the only ones it can combo is dmg reduction , these do exist
-2 (stance) -2 (enchanted)
-2 (enchanted) -3 (while hexed)
-2 (stance) -3(while hexed)
-2 (stance) -5 (20% chance)
-2 (while enchanted) -5 (20% chance)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
you can pretty much have combinations with seperate types in al lways but there will only be 2 at max.
Weeping Wind
Nice one ANet! Just as people where catching onto Wurm farming they knock it on the head. It will sure make a dent the other direction for farming
*That will teach them SHEEP!*
Weeping
*That will teach them SHEEP!*
Weeping
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by kc99
This should actually increase sales of shells now!
More peeps are likely to part with 2k than 5k, Whadda ya think? I agree actually
More peeps are likely to part with 2k than 5k, Whadda ya think? I agree actually
Linsys
Quote:
Originally Posted by IIIPowerIII
When ppl will see the difference... Victo Require STR and collector require Tactic!!! That a big difference... We finally got 1 Str shield collector, the 60hp/-3dam Hexed. I only want one for Stance now...
With this patch they boosted Gold shield in stance to 45hp? before it was +30. Only hexed/enchanted was able to hit 45hp. No, 45hp has ALWAYS been the max for "in stance"
With this patch they boosted Gold shield in stance to 45hp? before it was +30. Only hexed/enchanted was able to hit 45hp. No, 45hp has ALWAYS been the max for "in stance"
beepbeep
-3 stance or enchanted was never possible, if it was they would have had to of made a the green shields with this mod, because they are supposed to be "perfect"
Poison Ivy
Ha, death to the Shell Famers!
*flees*
*flees*
Grinder
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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
I don't understand the logic of the complaints. Shells just went UP in value by a substantial amount.
^
2.5k per shell FTW
2.5k per shell FTW
Doull
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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
I don't understand the logic of the complaints. Shells just went UP in value by a substantial amount.
Personallly I think this reduces the value of shells. The price of the Crimson Carapace shield is not fixed by anything other than its difficulty to get.
The shields now take less effort to get so they will fall in price, thus the components fall in price. Further farmers of shells who believe as I do will unload their stock and supply will outstrip demand.
Time is our ony resource here, if singed gargoyle skillls got you the shield they wouldnt fetch a plat because anyone could get them for themselves.
Presumably wurm farming is considered bot-able, although I guess that the shield wa sthe most expensive collectors item and the change brings it into line. It's a shame in a way as I really enjoyed struggling to get my first carapace shield (rather than shelling* out 5k for it), but then I guess the clever anti-wurm builds have already changed the landscape there.
* No pun intended, honestly I shell you not
The shields now take less effort to get so they will fall in price, thus the components fall in price. Further farmers of shells who believe as I do will unload their stock and supply will outstrip demand.
Time is our ony resource here, if singed gargoyle skillls got you the shield they wouldnt fetch a plat because anyone could get them for themselves.
Presumably wurm farming is considered bot-able, although I guess that the shield wa sthe most expensive collectors item and the change brings it into line. It's a shame in a way as I really enjoyed struggling to get my first carapace shield (rather than shelling* out 5k for it), but then I guess the clever anti-wurm builds have already changed the landscape there.
* No pun intended, honestly I shell you not
Former Ruling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doull
Personallly I think this reduces the value of shells. The price of the Crimson Carapace shield is not fixed by anything other than its difficulty to get.
The shields now take less effort to get so they will fall in price, thus the components fall in price. Further farmers of shells who believe as I do will unload their stock and supply will outstrip demand.
Time is our ony resource here, if singed gargoyle skillls got you the shield they wouldnt fetch a plat because anyone could get them for themselves.
Presumably wurm farming is considered bot-able, although I guess that the shield wa sthe most expensive collectors item and the change brings it into line. It's a shame in a way as I really enjoyed struggling to get my first carapace shield (rather than shelling* out 5k for it), but then I guess the clever anti-wurm builds have already changed the landscape there.
* No pun intended, honestly I shell you not
Shells have had a rather weird increase in price.
Why? My Guess? Wurm Farmers probably stopped because they weren't making as many sells fast enough, which decreases the amount being sold on the market, and the few that luckily got a shell or two are holding them to higher prices to match the per shield purchase earnings they would have gotten before.
Basically temporarly making 2 shells worth as much as 5 shells were worth.
Wont last long though (might be back down by today...haven't logged in)
The shields now take less effort to get so they will fall in price, thus the components fall in price. Further farmers of shells who believe as I do will unload their stock and supply will outstrip demand.
Time is our ony resource here, if singed gargoyle skillls got you the shield they wouldnt fetch a plat because anyone could get them for themselves.
Presumably wurm farming is considered bot-able, although I guess that the shield wa sthe most expensive collectors item and the change brings it into line. It's a shame in a way as I really enjoyed struggling to get my first carapace shield (rather than shelling* out 5k for it), but then I guess the clever anti-wurm builds have already changed the landscape there.
* No pun intended, honestly I shell you not
Shells have had a rather weird increase in price.
Why? My Guess? Wurm Farmers probably stopped because they weren't making as many sells fast enough, which decreases the amount being sold on the market, and the few that luckily got a shell or two are holding them to higher prices to match the per shield purchase earnings they would have gotten before.
Basically temporarly making 2 shells worth as much as 5 shells were worth.
Wont last long though (might be back down by today...haven't logged in)
HawkofStorms
Thank god. I can finally get a 20/20 collector air staff w/o having to pay 5k for one
stickyballs
Now, we are going to see an influx of Crimson Carapace Shields. People will probably now get it, as it is like 40% of original price. I wonder if in this process they made shells even rarer drops...
Star Alfur
Blaarg
^ That's from after the update, you couldn't get a gold shield with more than +30 hp in stance before. But that has been changed and now you can find up to +45 hp in stance on gold items.
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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
Quote:
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armor +8 vs all types of pshyical dmg and ele dmg (cold attacks , slashing dng , blunt dmg, pericing dmg, fire , lightning dmg ...............
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is actually up to atleast +10 armor now.
armor +8 vs all types of pshyical dmg and ele dmg (cold attacks , slashing dng , blunt dmg, pericing dmg, fire , lightning dmg ...............
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is actually up to atleast +10 armor now.
Francis Crawford
For shells to go down below 1K in value, the price of the shield has to drop below 2K.
That's not inconceivable, but it would be odd.
That's not inconceivable, but it would be odd.
Soul Torn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaarg
^ That's from after the update, you couldn't get a gold shield with more than +30 hp in stance before. But that has been changed and now you can find up to +45 hp in stance on gold items.
This is actually up to atleast +10 armor now.
Ok for the last time (no offense) the max has ALWAYS been +45hp in stance. I have been using this shield since I started gw and its been the same the whole time. Same with gold shields. The +30 is the max for UNCONDITIONAL meaning always.
This has been around for a while and people are getting the wrong information.
This is actually up to atleast +10 armor now.
Ok for the last time (no offense) the max has ALWAYS been +45hp in stance. I have been using this shield since I started gw and its been the same the whole time. Same with gold shields. The +30 is the max for UNCONDITIONAL meaning always.
This has been around for a while and people are getting the wrong information.
Jetdoc
Anyone know if the collector inside Amnoon still needs 5 shells for the armor?
Lambentviper
damnit...just when i got done farming for 8 hours total, getting 2 shells, thenm paying 3k for 3 more. grrrr.
But i'd like a max one. That would mean that ANet would have to nerf alot of farming as the extra health and -3 dmg will only make it easier to do certain IDS runs.
But i'd like a max one. That would mean that ANet would have to nerf alot of farming as the extra health and -3 dmg will only make it easier to do certain IDS runs.
LifeInfusion
YAY. Now I can actually get weapons without killing myself with buying/killing wurms with full hench team.
TideSwayer
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Anyone know if the collector inside Amnoon still needs 5 shells for the armor?
Down to 2 as well.