Ritualist Build That Will Spell The End For 55 Monks!!!
fallot
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Originally Posted by twicky_kid
Dark fury reads the same way but gives you adrenaline each time you hit.
Read other skills with the same description that act differently. thanx have a nice day. Vengeful Weapon only works for one hit. I came across it lots of times during the event and used it myself. Its a little like Reversal of Fortune actually.
Read other skills with the same description that act differently. thanx have a nice day. Vengeful Weapon only works for one hit. I came across it lots of times during the event and used it myself. Its a little like Reversal of Fortune actually.
Joh
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Other way around. At level 14 it lasts for 11 seconds and steals 33 health every time you're struck with an attack.
Full stats on an attribute 0...15 basis are 5...11 second duration, 5...35 life stolen per hit. If this is true, someone deserves spanks.
According to GWFreaks:
Elite Spell. Hold Khanhei's ashes for [5..29] seconds. Whenever a foe strikes you in combat while you are holding Khanhei's ashes, you steal [5..10] Health from that foe.
That being Restoration Magic 0-12.
Full stats on an attribute 0...15 basis are 5...11 second duration, 5...35 life stolen per hit. If this is true, someone deserves spanks.
According to GWFreaks:
Elite Spell. Hold Khanhei's ashes for [5..29] seconds. Whenever a foe strikes you in combat while you are holding Khanhei's ashes, you steal [5..10] Health from that foe.
That being Restoration Magic 0-12.
Former Ruling
They accidently swithed them - GWfreak's program put the skills in rather quickly, and without the actual skills to reference anymore.
The Build doesn't exist. Sorry.
The Build doesn't exist. Sorry.
Homicidal Brainiac
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Other way around. At level 14 it lasts for 11 seconds and steals 33 health every time you're struck with an attack.
Full stats on an attribute 0...15 basis are 5...11 second duration, 5...35 life stolen per hit.
I'll let the OP work out how this affects his build.
Peace,
-CxE NOT according to the GWFreaks Prog, I used that prog to make this build, and if they screwed up, I can't be held responsible.
Full stats on an attribute 0...15 basis are 5...11 second duration, 5...35 life stolen per hit.
I'll let the OP work out how this affects his build.
Peace,
-CxE NOT according to the GWFreaks Prog, I used that prog to make this build, and if they screwed up, I can't be held responsible.
Homicidal Brainiac
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Originally Posted by Haggard
I totally agree, if youre surrounded by 14 smites, and get rended, you can NOT recast prot spirit before they next hit you. My 55 partner has managed it once or twice with 3 smites, but thats extreme reflexes combined with insane luck.
EDIT:
The term strikes means that, but when followed by "in combat" it means attacks only
And LOL Ensign, nicely spotted Please, may I draw your attention to the skill "ancestors' Fury"
All foes are STRUCK for X lightning damage.
and It's an AoE spell, therefore proving my point.
EDIT:
The term strikes means that, but when followed by "in combat" it means attacks only
And LOL Ensign, nicely spotted Please, may I draw your attention to the skill "ancestors' Fury"
All foes are STRUCK for X lightning damage.
and It's an AoE spell, therefore proving my point.
Homicidal Brainiac
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Originally Posted by Former Ruling
They accidently swithed them - GWfreak's program put the skills in rather quickly, and without the actual skills to reference anymore.
The Build doesn't exist. Sorry. I'd like to know where you get your information from.
If there is no longer ANY refernce to this skill whatsoever, then how do you know that it's a mistake?
Why don't we just wait until factions comes out to find out then? I will test this build out by myself, and I'll post my results here, this way, no-body loses out, except maybe me... which I doubt.
The Build doesn't exist. Sorry. I'd like to know where you get your information from.
If there is no longer ANY refernce to this skill whatsoever, then how do you know that it's a mistake?
Why don't we just wait until factions comes out to find out then? I will test this build out by myself, and I'll post my results here, this way, no-body loses out, except maybe me... which I doubt.
capblueberry
this may sound noob but how are ppl already posting builds and stuff for the ritualist b4 you can even play as it?
Homicidal Brainiac
Download section on GWG homepage, GWFreaks Character building tool, get it, it's sweet.
Homicidal Brainiac
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Originally Posted by Align
Don't you drop "large" items when knocked down?
no, they just "disappear" while the knockdown animation is being played
Homicidal Brainiac
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Other way around. At level 14 it lasts for 11 seconds and steals 33 health every time you're struck with an attack.
Full stats on an attribute 0...15 basis are 5...11 second duration, 5...35 life stolen per hit.
I'll let the OP work out how this affects his build.
Peace,
-CxE If you're right, then this build is royally screwed. But where did you get this from?
Surely you didn't remember the effect of this skill from the factions event? and If so, you might hae a hazy memory, that, or GWFreaks need to fix that prog of thiers.
Full stats on an attribute 0...15 basis are 5...11 second duration, 5...35 life stolen per hit.
I'll let the OP work out how this affects his build.
Peace,
-CxE If you're right, then this build is royally screwed. But where did you get this from?
Surely you didn't remember the effect of this skill from the factions event? and If so, you might hae a hazy memory, that, or GWFreaks need to fix that prog of thiers.
Homicidal Brainiac
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Originally Posted by Manic Smile
knockdown = able to solo bigger mobs = faster farming...
SoJ > SS on a 55 monk
SS > SoJ on a 55 nec yeh, but like I said, you can't spam SoJ, you you're basically screwed until it rechages, you'd be better off being a 55 N/E with aftershock.
SoJ > SS on a 55 monk
SS > SoJ on a 55 nec yeh, but like I said, you can't spam SoJ, you you're basically screwed until it rechages, you'd be better off being a 55 N/E with aftershock.
capblueberry
im still a bit confused about how you guys seem to of already used this build and stuff...please exlain
PS: i downloaded gwfreaks
PS: i downloaded gwfreaks
Homicidal Brainiac
well, just open it up and search up Ritualist Skills, I was just browsing around when I found this build (which might be screwed now).
If you can't run it, you'll need to download the .NET prog at Microsoft.com
If you can't run it, you'll need to download the .NET prog at Microsoft.com
Haggard
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Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac
All foes are STRUCK for X lightning damage.
and It's an AoE spell, therefore proving my point. If you would like to actually read my post, i said that when 'struck' is followed by 'in combat' it means attacks only.
and It's an AoE spell, therefore proving my point. If you would like to actually read my post, i said that when 'struck' is followed by 'in combat' it means attacks only.
Homicidal Brainiac
ah, ok, sry, was a bit confused by that.
Glasswalker
Reality Check:
A) You can't use any weapon/offhand combo because you are holding something (the ashes).
B) Sadly, Ensign is 100% right. Check www.guildwiki.org for confirmation.
Without doing the research myself, there may be ways to speed that up though...
C) Yup, struck in combat, but what build can farm everything? And as you say, you've got 3 other skills. I would recommend breeze as one of them... It would make an awesome cover Enchant for PS anyway.
D) The two seconds it takes to cast Ancestor's Rage means you will almost never pull it off.
If played right, you might have something invincible, but this won't be solo. You will need someone else to do the damage.
A) You can't use any weapon/offhand combo because you are holding something (the ashes).
B) Sadly, Ensign is 100% right. Check www.guildwiki.org for confirmation.
Without doing the research myself, there may be ways to speed that up though...C) Yup, struck in combat, but what build can farm everything? And as you say, you've got 3 other skills. I would recommend breeze as one of them... It would make an awesome cover Enchant for PS anyway.
D) The two seconds it takes to cast Ancestor's Rage means you will almost never pull it off.
If played right, you might have something invincible, but this won't be solo. You will need someone else to do the damage.
Sereng Amaranth
http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Vengeful_Was_Khanhei
Ensign
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Originally Posted by Joh
Elite Spell. Hold Khanhei's ashes for [5..29] seconds. Whenever a foe strikes you in combat while you are holding Khanhei's ashes, you steal [5..10] Health from that foe.
Quote: Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac NOT according to the GWFreaks Prog, I used that prog to make this build, and if they screwed up, I can't be held responsible. Can't be held responsible? What is that supposed to mean? You made a build that doesn't work. Blame the program if you like, no one really cares. Just correct the error and forget about the build.
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Please, may I draw your attention to the skill "ancestors' Fury"
Bad skill templating. It's not going to trigger the ashes.
Determined Shot has a miss chance on low Marksmanship. It's been almost a year of retail and that still isn't in the description.
Determined Shot has a miss chance on low Marksmanship. It's been almost a year of retail and that still isn't in the description.
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Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac
If you're right, then this build is royally screwed. But where did you get this from?
I meticulously screenshotted every skill description from the Priest of Balthazar at both level 0 and level 15 for personal reference. Those screenshots have since been deleted but their contents are still stored in a spreadsheet.
The data in that spreadsheet has been independently duplicated by Silmor, as well as the guildwiki project and the Knights Templar. While I cannot say what the skill does in the test *at this moment*, I can say with certainty that those numbers were correct during the PvP EXTREME weekend. Peace, -CxE
Homicidal Brainiac
thanks man, you just saved me a whole lot of money
 I'll just make a Ri/N MM instead (see other thread) (not my thread)
legless_the_elf
Ok, there might be something I am missing but how do you get 55hp if your holding the ashes? Is it even a 55 build?
gabrial heart
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Originally Posted by Slimcea
If what Ensign and Haggard said is true, then pretty much the build is kinda shot. Nice effort though
 On the topic of SoJ vs SS, I feel that SoJ is a much safer damager as compared to SS. With SoJ, you free up your secondary to use Bonetti's Defence, which synergizes perfectly with Balth's Spirit and serves as an excellent buffer using any long cast time spells. Sure, you can replace it with Guardian, but Guardian has less evasion percentage, doesn't regenerate energy and can be interrupted. In addition, SoJ allows you the all important window of having casting time when fighting interrupters. Your suggested solutions of Zealot's Fire and Mark of Pain don't work very well at all when faced with ranged enemies e.g. Enchanted Bows, unless you want to run right up to them and cast. SoJ also helps to lower the rate of adrenaline gain for stuff such as Trolls, which prevents them from spamming Disrupting Chop as much. SS, as has been mentioned, is pretty good for a 55 Nec - you need a Monk secondary, and 55 is more efficient than SoJ given the other options available to you from the Nec and Monk skill lines. Otherwise, for a solo 55 monk, I'd still think that SoJ gives you more farming opportunities. Sure, it may not kill as fast, but it's also a lot safer and more versatile. What about Spellbreaker (for uw farming)? How do you counteract rend ench of the nightmares? I actually do 2 man uw runs with a prot bond build Mo/W... It's the typical build for uw farming without spamming prot spirit or worrying to often about casting breeze,ever getting canceled or running out of energy. But regardless, unless you happen to get right on top of a nightmare, your not likely to kill it before it rends you. How do you guys manage an UW run without SB? Isn't a 55 necro pretty useless also in UW farming without divine favor for SB, not to mention not being able to have 2 elites. Even with the build mentioned using ritualist skills, i don't see a way around having SB as an elite at least for uw. And for sure there is no way your going to survive the inferno (set on fire bit) of the terrorwebs without breeze. As far as not running mending, hrmmm attaxe's bleed you, period. No heal/steal is going to replace a -2 degen of bleeding, even at 105 hp i dont think. On the surface this might be a good solo build, but i think the duration of VWK is only 11 seconds (as mentioned) with a 20 sec recharge and on top of that another elite. As far as soj and ss (both elites), doing a single man uw farming run is nerfed (via the AoE nerf) and there is still no way around it....
Dragonheart
you can practically use all those skills with a 55 monk, since you bearly touch the ritualist's primary attribute
(i only ready the first post and nothing after it so sry if this was alrdy contridicted or mentioned) but i guess it helps to get ur other attributes above 12 maybe the ritualist primary would be better but i dont see how it would be the downfall of 55 monks Vermilion Okeanos
As someone who had personally tried out VWK during the first ever display of ritualist, I will fill some holes.
It work exactly like the skill description, it also does not trigger from spell damage. It is a item version of holy wrath/retribution that steal health instead of reflect damage. (I was saying "wtf? 33 sec? did they change it in the 2nd trial of faction class?" to myself, until I get to read what ensign pointed out. And also, Knight Templar rock) BTW, why do people use those build program? People should be able to memorize it naturally just by playing through the game =/ One more thing, how about a holy wrath + retribution + VWK PvE farming build? vital weapon + vital blessing + symbiosis or something... duo farm of course.
Homicidal Brainiac
great idea, and I tryed VWK in the Preview, It's just like Ensign said, good work man, both of u guys.
Vermilion Okeanos
I just realize this is actually half month old @_@
xenoranger
First off... I haven't read the entire thread, but I can say this. 55's are useless in PvP.
2 moves will kill any 55 monk. GUARENTEE Just take a Necro with high curses... Rend Enchantments (or Well of Profane) Then hit them with an attack. There are plenty of blood and death attacks that deal direct damage of over 50. THere are also ones that deal damage twice like Shadow Strike that deal under 50, but still enoguh to take them down. Now, Ritualists have their place. I've been looking at their skills quite a bit and deciding assassin or ritualist. Notice that they have no protect skills. You can't replace monks with a Ritualist because although Ritualists can heal, they have nothing like Reversal of Fortune, Aegis, and such to protect teammates from harm. A good chunk of ritualist skills are also based around holding ashes. When you hold ashes, you can't keep those items that reduce life, so the 55 build is killed by the holding of ashes (if you're thinking Mo/Rt for the new build). Overall, Ritualists have a place in teh game. It'd different than the monk's place. How they'll work togather has yet to be seen, but it'll be interesting.
Homicidal Brainiac
mate, that's kinda off topic, lol.
I agree with thou Shadowfrost
(quote from xenoranger) you can't replace monks with a Ritualist because although Ritualists can heal, they have nothing like Reversal of Fortune, Aegis, and such to protect teammates from harm.
Actually, I just played a rit in factions proper and there is a ritual called union it summons a spirit that takes 15 of the damage that anyone takes within it's range. so there is actually a protection spell, although that's the only one I've seen so far. Also, sry but I'm not sure how to do quotes : 
Lets Get to Healing
"I'm using Ressurect on old post!"
Yep i bumped it. Lome
Well, 55 hp monks were never very good in PvP. They are even less good now because of Gaze of Contempt.
Lome
Homicidal Brainiac
this was meant to be a topic on PvE Pit Farming, not PvP 55 monking :P
slimejocke
from reading this whole thread i'm very confused... i really like the ritualist and i don't understand why this build is useless?
i havn't been playing long and would like to have a rit that could farm alone... and i thought this might be my best bet...
Homicidal Brainiac
well mate, it seemed that I kinda got VWK mixed up, the damage Variable was mixed up with the Duration Variable, meaning that it lasts shorter, but does more damage.
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