w/mo O_o Healer

*takes the flame bait*

bleh, I'd like to point out that your responses to other people's comments on your build are what is turning everyone away from this topic. I'd recommend that you take a breather and re-read Me No Fat's post. It's very acurate.

As to the build itself, it seems to me that you may not understand how it is in PvP. Yeah, in RA, there's a bunch of guys that have no concept of tactics outside of C Space. Thus, your healing Warrior stands a chance, as people won't know what to do with it or won't have the skills needed to counter this. And let me tell you, it's very easy to counter.

What happens when you run into enchant hate? That's very common in TA and HA, almost a requirement. So, you beef up your health, you cast Breeze on someone.... and then what? No one will attack you, not at first. You'll sit there and be ignored until more important targets are taken down, then they will attack you 4 or 8 on you.

The real problem is not that it's not plausable to heal as a War, it's the way you're doing it. A meat shield in PvP doesn't work. Players are much smarter than monsters are. Players are more likely to Drain or Shatter your enchantments. Players will bring along Wild Blow and wait until they see you use a stance before using it. That's the biggest problem here: you expect people to try to force their way through you.

On the note of healing, I see your idea here. Pump up your life to the max, then sac to heal someone. Ok, that's all well and good, but what about you? You stack up Endure and Defy then sac to get a massive heal. Yeah, that works. But then, Endure and Defy wear off. That's gonna be a huge hit to your life. Granted, you could use only one, but I can't immagine you being able to keep one or the other up the whole time. So, that gives you 36 energy and 2 pips regen for a one-shot heal to end all heals, followed by your near death. For perspective, my Mo/R has around 40 energy and 4 pips regen with bad equipment. I can spam tiny little heals just about forever, casting Orison, Word, and Heal Other for quite a while. With your build, you'd need another healer just to keep you alive, and a battery Necro to allow you to heal. And woe upon you if you get energy denial or countered. If I lost one of my heals (and I've lost Orison to Distracting Shot before) I've still got 2 other direct heals to work with. You have Healing Breeze. How many times could you cast Breeze before someone shatters it? Plus, Breeze doesn't actually heal very much at all without Divine Favor.

And that brings me to my biggest problem with this build. Without Divine Favor, you have to rely on pumping up your Healing Prayers and power healing. While you use Defy Pain > Infuse Health, I'm just happily spamming Orison for almost 100 a hit, and alternating with Word for well over 100 a shot if their health is low. I don't have to try very hard at all to get a powerful heal if I'm using Divine.

Ok, I know where you're coming from on this build. You wanted to try something new to get away from the cookie cutter builds that plague every corner of Guild Wars. Trouble is, when you're experimenting, you can get bad results. Or things that work, but are not viable. This build is not viable. But, rather than accept that, you've decided to rant and scream about it and refuse the good sense from others. I can see plain as day that this build works. But, it's like ramming a square peg into a round hole. I'd take a Monk over this any day of the week. I honestly believe that the Bonder War works better. You should seriously scrap this build and try again.

[EDIT] *sigh* well, at least I tried.

OK i will say again under no circumstances did i say this was the best build or it would do well versus a well organised team or to use it in TA or HA howerver just to play around in random arena this build is alot of fun i know this because i have had fun with it.

This build is fun because every one thinks its trash you all say ha healer warr bah. it may not work as well as a monk but hey it works im happy you havn't tried it so i have to take all your comments with a grain of salt.

Oh and btw the stratergy is to use infuse THEN endure pain/defy (usually not both because that leaves u vunerable) becasue u go from 560hp to 280 then to 530 hp or so.. 280 hp is usually enough heal for one person then i make up the lost hp with healsig if it is done the other way around the u loose more hp than you heal for (they hit max and don't go above).

But i refuse to admit that menofat's post was "accurate" i cannot pump attributes into devine.....


Please don't post anything if you are just going to say that this build won't work versus a mesmer or a ranger or any one who catches on to you.

Well, I reakon' this is an interesting build. I mean, every build has its flaws. It's like rock, paper, sissors... And sure, A W/Mo has less mana than all the other monks out there, but lots of the monks I see in RA and TA go down too quickly to heal or spend all their time healing themselves because they're taking too much damage. Also, no matter what class you are for spellcasting; whether it be Ele, Warr or Monk, a shutdown mes is probably going in bite you in the ass and hold on 'til you're dead.

Has anyone actually tried this before flaming it?

I did, and it works ok. You Infuse THEN Defy, Indure, so you're back on full. Besides, you have Heal Sig, and I never really noticed Defy and Indure going off. It wasn't a problem. There's also only 1 enchant spell, so I don't see the problem with anti-enchant builds. Why did you bother arguing that?!?
Breeze isn't the major heal. This is just a minor, trial, still-in-progress build that needs work and can't do flipping everything. Sure, if you wanted to Orison/Devotion/Other your team mates, you WOULD go spellcaster prime. But that isn't the purpose. I think some of you miss the point of what bleh's trying to do...

I also had no problem with shutdown mesmers as when you're a mesmer you don't tend to go: "Oh! They have a Warrior, I bet they're a support Healing Warrior!" Infact, you tend to just stick to the base Eles and Mos first (I don't know if this is just me, but I defintely don't go and E Denial/Generic Shutdown spell the first Warr I come across.)

Anyway, mesmers aren't a threat to you anyway as the last time I checked Heal Sig was a signet and didn't cost any mana so you as a warrior aren't in much trouble if a mesmer DOES deside to shutdown the warrior instead of the other spellcasters because shutdowning a warrior would SO be a better use of time *sarcasm*.

This build is purely for fun and at least someone's trying new builds. Sure, some don't work, but bleh asked for CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISISM (Advice in which you don't just call the build creator a noob and say why their build is bad, but actually consider its good and bad points so you can give feedback to make the build better), in which they only got 1 post while everything else was a flame.

Anyway, my point is TRY THE DAMN BUILD BEFORE YOU SLAG IT OFF!
I know my argument is probably terribly flawed, but then again, a lot of things are. I mean, it's just a game... and this build can be lots of fun if you give it a try.

Okay, long rant over...

I'll be suprised if anyone actually bothers to read the whole thing before they start flaming me too because I'm a noob and are willing to try out builds that aren't uber and that can't tank, avoid shutdown, deal good damage and support at the same time.

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I once constructed an 'undercover healer'... it was turd. Here it is anyway:

Warrior/Monk

Strength: 12+4
Healing: 12

Warriors Endurance [e]
Heal Other
Heal Party
Sprint
Infuse Health
Orison of Healing
Restore Life
I Will Avenge You!

Zealous weapon mod

The key behind this build was selecting big costing heals that didnt really need DF bonus to work. Heal Other is the keystone skill, ripping off 151hp. Heal Party was reasonable... most of the time i run that was elmo.. so it was actually a bigger heal than im used to -.-. Restore was usually resurrection signet in arena. Infuse Health is perfect on a wammo, assuming you can concentrate on it, which you shouldnt tbh :/

Sprint and Glads armour makes you buff, and IWAY was always handy... people often died... and you gain energy faster with free heal. The very epitome of the build really.

The only problem was finding a target who wouldnt run away. I naturally went for monks who naturally pissed off the second i came towards them. I suppose going for warrriors is the easier target... they wont take any damage whomever you attack.

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bah its a gimmic not really sure why w=everyone is being so damn sensitive about a w/mo i dont run one but several times ive breezed ppl who where getting low on life to help out the monk... bah if its fun to you thats all that matters, and ive heard in several places this being very sucessful in RA... its your game you have fun with it... and everyone else can kiss off

are you encouraging wamos to heal ?

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