Back talk

LittleBull

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

I don't know about you guys... but in the last few weeks Ive come
across a few situations where people have made disagreable comments,
but when I've disagreed with them, they've put me on "ignore", and then
procedded to bombard me with insults. That doesn't seem right to me,
if they want to continue to take issue with me, they should have to hear
my side of the agruement too.
I know that some of you "weaker" people will say that I can just ignore
them too. I think that if they can chose to ignore my comments, they
should be blocked from talking to me too, as a rule.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Suggestions go into the suggestions forum.

RaabTheGuru

RaabTheGuru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Southern California

Wizards Anomyous [WoA]

N/Me

That's what the ignore button is for, to ignore what someone is saying to you.

..and by weak do you mean people that choose not to whine about miniscule quarrels they have with other players? If so, I'm weak.

Jakerius

Jakerius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Marhan's Grotto, reminiscing about the good old days when it had more than two people.

Children of Orion [CoO]

R/Mo

You should just ignore them. :P


When somebody does that to you, think hard about why they're saying it, and what caused them to say it.
Is it something you did wrong?

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Do Not Disturb status.

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Rudeness is a cowards form of attack. Just be the bigger man and ignore it.

Inureface

Inureface

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Asian in Lousiana

The Endbringers

R/Me

Usually that doesn't happen unless you were the one screaming OWNED or wow you suck in random arena. Then don't expect any peace for a while.

Rahl

Rahl

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Austin, Tx

Mmph Its [Good]

Mo/

I dunno... I've had a lot of people just curse for no reason at all, anywhere, anytime.

I think its just the 10 year old momma's boys or seriously immature adults.

Pevil Lihatuh

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

As said before, adding them to your ignore list stops them talking to you. You can't see a thing they type. It just needs to be made bigger; I'd easily run out of slots if I let myself. Instead I keep Local Chat off to avoid the morons and stop myself maxing out ignore. In my first 2 months of playing (May/June) I got 3 people on the ignore list so following that i'd probably have it filled easily by now

Unfortunately this game is full of jerks. Great people too, but they're far outweighed by the jerks.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Ignorance does not heed opinions, your words will only fall deaf to his ears. /Do Not Disturb.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

My silly argument in Lion Arch yesterday went like this:


Me: wts rare "insert item"...current offer 100k+2ecto.....buyout 100k+20ecto

Jerk: your item sucks, its not worth 100k man, give it up noob, the only good thing there is +7 armor.

Me: thanks, I don't need your advice

Jerk: its not worth 100k, only an idiot would buy that junk.

Me: well, then I guess you quality.

Jerk: oh really?

Me: you started it buddy, why don't you mind your own business.


5 minutes goes buy and I'm selling in Droknars Forge.


The Same Jerk: your item sucks

Me: you again? Don't you have anything else better to do?

Jerk: na, I don't have a life, lol

Me: well, you can't have mine!

end of conversation

yangster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Asian Syndicate

Me/E

Why would you call people weak if they can ignore dumb people? If you can't just ignore them then you are probably helping them have fun while you are getting angry.

Just go into a different mode, like "Offline" or "Do Not Disturb," or you can just turn off local chat.

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Isn't there a glitch that allows you to see what people say in public, even if you "ignore" them? Or was that fixed?

sun is in us

sun is in us

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Organic Soup

Of the Day

Me/

Some people just like to hide behind the internet....they will insult you personally....then when you give as good as you got (usually better) they run for mommy.

I used to ignore them....but...hey.....they want to play...let's play!

Gunz Blazing Smile

Gunz Blazing Smile

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Either ignore them or play them out to make them look like the noob. So fun when the tables turn on them.

Metanoia

Metanoia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh
As said before, adding them to your ignore list stops them talking to you. You can't see a thing they type. It just needs to be made bigger; I'd easily run out of slots if I let myself. Instead I keep Local Chat off to avoid the morons and stop myself maxing out ignore. In my first 2 months of playing (May/June) I got 3 people on the ignore list so following that i'd probably have it filled easily by now

Unfortunately this game is full of jerks. Great people too, but they're far outweighed by the jerks.
IMO it's a matter of perspective. I noticed I seemed to meet far more "jerks" when I was in a bad mood.
The way I see it is two people in a bad mood rubbing each other the wrong way... You'd be pretty hard pressed to find a truely irredeemable person. So, in the future, don't be so petty and just let the comments slide as people venting.

Ole Man Bourbon

Ole Man Bourbon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta

GONG

W/E

This is why it's really important to curse a person to tears if he sends a nasty tell to you and *doesn't* put you on ignore. Gotta get the bad blood out when given the opportunity.

BTW, people that put you on ignore and then send you a nasty tell are people who HAVE NEVER BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE WITH A WOMAN. Remember that, and smile.

Sents

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Various

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ole Man Bourbon
BTW, people that put you on ignore and then send you a nasty tell are people who HAVE NEVER BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE WITH A WOMAN. Remember that, and smile.
Simply not true, I love the ignore and tell, I use it on assholes all the time, and I'm sure it just burns them when the cant respond to my usually harmless, assinine taunts. But I only ever do it to people that ask for it by acting rude, calling others noobs. Basically its like I get the last word and you cant say shit. Haha

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Metanoia
IMO it's a matter of perspective. I noticed I seemed to meet far more "jerks" when I was in a bad mood.
The way I see it is two people in a bad mood rubbing each other the wrong way... You'd be pretty hard pressed to find a truely irredeemable person. So, in the future, don't be so petty and just let the comments slide as people venting.
5-10 minutes in Random Arenas, you will find at least ONE irredeemable person.

I think they spawn there and kinda invade the rest of the game...kinda like the undead.

Break out the napalm and scortch RA!

*Crazy eyed look* "I love the smell of napalm in the morning! In smells like victory!"

Evan The Cursed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahl
I dunno... I've had a lot of people just curse for no reason at all, anywhere, anytime.

I think its just the 10 year old momma's boys or seriously immature adults.
You'd be surprised at how often it's actually the latter.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Argue with a fool will only lower yourself to their level, and they will beat you with experience.

Now, that's weak.

I understand that you are annoyed and furstrated, but you must let it go.

Go punch a wall or something, you will feel good after. (you will tend to ignore the pain from your knuckles or something)

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Sure it is easy to say use the ignore, but I have yet to put anyone on my ignore list. Some people are just way too quick to use it.

We were in HP today and an ele was using searing heat we thought. We asked, they said no.

I wound up dying and had a chance to observe them after at the point I died I notice the tell tale searing heat animation, and sure enough they were.

So we asked them to stop using it because it breaks agro.

So then they complain, saying that none of the other groups she had ever been with ever complained and we should learn what we are talking about. Then said if you don't like it you can play without me. And did a rage quit.

No problem, but I send a pm and really very polited tell them that they should just take a look at what it is doing and accept some constructive criticism and to think of the team.

I left it alone at that then a few mins later she pms me and tells me she's been playing since first beta, yada yada yada. I try to response and i am on ignore of course. Then she keeps yelling at me and telling me to STFU.

Now I don't have a problem with trying to reason with someone and I am not one to stoop to name calling. But I want my fair chance to retort if I feel like trying to teach them.

So I log into my second account and tell them if they are going to try and berate me to not hide behind the ignore option and not be a coward and if they really want to convince me I'm wrong then talk about it.

I get "dude stfu" then my other account is on ignore.

No big deal, just can't stand that they are allowed to do this.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

friend broke his hand doing that...

I poped a knuckel...

i don't know I'd probably still do it...better then trying to put my fist through the internet and subsequently breaking my moniter

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Simply keep your mouth shut ^.^

CorstedPirate

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Knights of the Void

Mo/

Today I made the mistake of trying Revive Animal for the first time while in tombs. The skill description makes it look extremely worth while, but it is not accurate. You do not revive all pets in the area, you don't revive anything unless you are standing on it! So, when I realized that I complained about it for a bit, since I hadn't brought comfort animal. Meanwhile, the MM starts hollering that the pets needed to be rezed immediately so that he would have more bodies. I put up with them going on about it for a while before I said, since I have to stand on the body to res, how about I run in and die while resing so you get a body. Everyone else thought it was funny, except the MM, who mentioned several more times he needed the pets up right away. I think he had put me on ignore because I wasn't quite able to do what he wanted with that skill. I will never use Revive Animal again!

Sorry, that was prolly off topic.

I would by no means call a person weak if they have to put someone on ignore. If your screen is being filled up with useless and insulting blather from the same person, ignore them, unless it is stupid to the point of hillarity. I have only ever really needed to put one person on ignore. I was in the middle of a mission so I really didn't have time to deal with him being a jerk. Really, after an hour, it should be enough time to remove them, there is no reason to have your ignore box all full. If they are still going on after an hour, or start up again, just ignore them till you feel enough time has passed. It is likely you'll remember the name if they ever message you again, so it doesn't really matter that much anyhow.

Bob of Maple Ave

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Unforgiven Servants

E/N

I've noticed that there's a ton of Know-It-Alls in this game. Today I was partying with this idiot W/Mo who kept targetting a mob in a crowd and saying "nuke". One of the first things he said while we were in group was "Why doesn't anyone listen to me?" I soon found out.

First of all, I damn well know my job. I nuke because it makes me happy , and I do it at every opportunity. Secondly, I'm being bombarded by Lava Spitters, all of whom are quite capable of interrupting my MS and invoking that lovely 60 second recharge. Thirdly, you can't see what my energy is at, so STFU.

I get the impression that people are justifying this kind of stupidity to themselves, saying that it's just "constructive criticism". It's idiotic, is what it is. What makes you so high and mighty that you can direct me? Why do you automatically assume that you know more than me? Do yourself a favor and shut up.

I do take criticism from people that present it in an intelligent way...as a matter of fact, I welcome it. But if a person doesn't have any people skills, I take it as a sign that the person is generally going to be stupid anyway, so I'm not missing out if I piss him/her off or ignore.

There are a lot of dumbasses in this game...it's unfortunate, because they're usually the ones that leave the biggest impression. But I favor ripping them apart in front of everyone for two reasons: 1) A person that's stupid enough to start a fight over nothing generally isn't going to stand up too well when the criticism is refocused on him (as was the case today), and 2) The ignore list is about 1/10th the size of what it needs to be.

Oh, and of course, some people just enjoy getting a rise out of you. I do my best to make sure they get both barrels in the process.

PS: I filled my ignore list by my third day of playing, just from people begging alone.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evan The Cursed
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahl
I dunno... I've had a lot of people just curse for no reason at all, anywhere, anytime.

I think its just the 10 year old momma's boys or seriously immature adults.
You'd be surprised at how often it's actually the latter.
a more true comment i havent seen

jummeth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

Diary of a Madman [SiKK]

If you feel you really need to retort, then its a shame.

That need to retort is the need to prove yourself to that idiot who is being... an idiot =O

If in life you get upset by every little grip or comment then, you will not get far. IRL people are much more nastier and much more intellegent.

Silly name calling etc is really the least of your worries. I am sure, anybody that has been in a corporate environment will know this. So always wear a smile and these people are easily bored and will move on. If you have something pressing, just ignore them for a little while, else, if you want to have some fun reply. Experiance tells me the more friendly (but correct) you are, more more annoyed they will get. Its really quite simple.

If you are wrong, admit it, thats the only way you can prove to me that your are *not* weak.

gl hv fun xP

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jummeth

If you are wrong, admit it, thats the only way you can prove to me that your are *not* weak.
And what if you are the one who is wrong? I guess I never get to even reasonably discuss it because you have gone and blocked me.

A retort, might not just be a last word shot back, it is an attempt to continue a conversation or clear the air.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

Ignoring is the greatest invention of all time, use it

jummeth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

Diary of a Madman [SiKK]

@Cherno:
If they put you on ignore then obviously they are afraid of something, why get worked up?

If you are unable to retort, too bad. get on with it.

If your opposing party is incorrect then all you can do is bring it to their attension, whether or not they listen to you is their god given right.

The fact that they blocked you means they don't want to discuss it, and thus there is nothing you can do. You can invoke your right to block them also. Do you really think you can talk sense into somebody that defensive?

Matsumi

Matsumi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

It never really bothers me if somebody is trash-talking me at all. From other games, sometimes it's used as a small tactical advantage, although a weak one, at getting under your skin and making you play worse then you normally would with a clear head... then after you lose, you figure out that you were really mad the entire time at what that person said, and it becomes obvious. Ignoring is the best solution if it really gets to you that much, not really a whole lot more to say than that.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jummeth
@Cherno:
If they put you on ignore then obviously they are afraid of something, why get worked up?

If you are unable to retort, too bad. get on with it.

If your opposing party is incorrect then all you can do is bring it to their attension, whether or not they listen to you is their god given right.

The fact that they blocked you means they don't want to discuss it, and thus there is nothing you can do. You can invoke your right to block them also. Do you really think you can talk sense into somebody that defensive?
Yes I have turned a number of people around. It all depends on how you do it.

The arguement went to the back of my mind as I was just mad about them being able to ignore me and keep talking. Was a vent when I wrote it this morning when I was still steaming. Not doing so anymore.