Trader Glitch?
SincorpDeath
hey guys, I was at school ALL day today, and i heard that trader prices were reset, so things like SUP. absorbtion were selling for 250 gold at trader, anyone get a SS of this? If so, post one : )
koneko
Having played another popular online game long ago, I expected that ArenaNet would roll everything back. Districts were horribly broken, nobody was buying the crafting materials that I had gone to the Forge to try to sell, people were calling each other "n00blet n00bity n00bcakes" left and right.
Having nothing better to do, I decided to amuse myself.
I think I spent a total of 7.5k on runes. I got bored at that point and went off to watch the tele.
Having nothing better to do, I decided to amuse myself.
I think I spent a total of 7.5k on runes. I got bored at that point and went off to watch the tele.
Guardian of the Light
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Originally Posted by koneko
Having played another popular online game long ago, I expected that ArenaNet would roll everything back. Districts were horribly broken, nobody was buying the crafting materials that I had gone to the Forge to try to sell - everyone was in a frenzy.
Having nothing better to do, I decided to amuse myself.
I think I spent a total of 7.5k on runes. I got bored at that point and went off to watch the tele. ROFL!!!
Having nothing better to do, I decided to amuse myself.
I think I spent a total of 7.5k on runes. I got bored at that point and went off to watch the tele. ROFL!!!
Myth
dag namit... I MISSED IT AGAIN!!!!!!
voutlaw
they are making it so no one profited, dont worry
Myth
What do you mean by that?
Covenant
Everything gets taken back.
That's what a rollback is.
That's what a rollback is.
Blaarg
They are rolling the game state back 1 hr before the trader reset.
Mavrik
that last laugh is on everyone who is going to lose everything they "profited on" during this 
I'd be pissed if it was happening to me... but it isn't... actually I'd be pissed if they let everyone get away with it.
I'd be pissed if it was happening to me... but it isn't... actually I'd be pissed if they let everyone get away with it.
voutlaw
i doubt that they WONT get back the money they spent on them.
Mavrik
they should... its like doing a computer restore from a save made 2 weeks ago... everything is restored exactly how it was 2 weeks ago. Same with the roll back... it will be as though that hour never existed.
voutlaw
just glad i wasnt involved in it 
wouldve created too much confusion
wouldve created too much confusion
ty3c
well I wasnt even on when this happend I was sleeping so I just want everything to be normal Id hate to do the same missons over again cuz I alrdy did them
I just am hopefull that nothing else is wrong I dont wanna lose the stuff I paid for and traded for a long time ago.
I just am hopefull that nothing else is wrong I dont wanna lose the stuff I paid for and traded for a long time ago.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Myth
dag namit... I MISSED IT AGAIN!!!!!!
Why is it that it seems 99% of people don't have a clue that a rollback is taking place and what it means. There is nothing to have missed.
voutlaw
thats because they think u can keep the items :S
Myth
Well I didnt know there was gonna be a roll back. I thought it was just gonna be like the time the trader reset and ectos were going for like 250g each.
My question about the roll back tho is that what happend if you got an incredibly good drop or you just capped a skill or whatever. Does that get rolled back too?
Exactly how does the roll back work?
Edit: btw im guessing that this day is gonna rank right up there with the AoE nerf as guild wars days of infamy or something to that effect lol
My question about the roll back tho is that what happend if you got an incredibly good drop or you just capped a skill or whatever. Does that get rolled back too?
Exactly how does the roll back work?
Edit: btw im guessing that this day is gonna rank right up there with the AoE nerf as guild wars days of infamy or something to that effect lol
Avarre
A game that is online constantly saves all existing data. A rollback is where the servers are restarted from a previous save. Basically, the time after the save they restore has not happened. If you threw all your items into the sea after that point, you will have them back, all xp, caps, missions done will revert to their status at the time of the reloaded save.
They're only removing the time after the error took place, so nobody will lose anything extra. However, anything you did after that point will be deleted as well.
I'm with Anet on the rollback choice.
They're only removing the time after the error took place, so nobody will lose anything extra. However, anything you did after that point will be deleted as well.
I'm with Anet on the rollback choice.
gimpy wimmer
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Originally Posted by Myth
Edit: btw im guessing that this day is gonna rank right up there with the AoE nerf as guild wars days of infamy or something to that effect lol
Actually there was an event like this in october or november or something like that didnt roll back then though kinda weird.
Avarre
That was an intended reset of priced by Anet to try and repair the economy somewhat. This rolled back because it was unintentional, when the price data failed to shift along with the regular data when Anet was moving server stuff.
Haggard
I heard of someone in the [AVE] guild spending 1000k on this, if it hadnt been removed think of the profits
*drool*
*drool*
Lichtenberg
notice all the people crouded around trader 
Sha Noran
Try to understand... there wouldn't have been a profit. There wouldn't have been an economy. Even if prices rose at some point, to a degree, organized trade outside that of the trader would have been effeciently over.
Nice screen shots though. :-D
Nice screen shots though. :-D
Haggard
yeah, the market would have been flooded with so many sup abs, that it would have taken a year or two for the price to raise back up
SincorpDeath
coo. thanks for the screenies. Just what I wanted : )
beleg curudin
Thats pretty funny, that Guild wars would have went through a depression, where gold is worth more then items, XD 200 gold could buy you the most expensive things.
dont feel no pain
dammm I MISSED!!!!...wasting my time ^^ do you guys realy think the hard working anet dudes would just watch the econemy colapse.
fabulouz
well i wounder if you added one of those runes to your armour....would they take your armour away....
koneko
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Originally Posted by fabulouz
well i wounder if you added one of those runes to your armour....would they take your armour away....
Wouldn't matter. They reverted the entire game (all accounts) to a point before the traders bugged.
Gwmaster
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Originally Posted by Haggard
I heard of someone in the [AVE] guild spending 1000k on this, if it hadnt been removed think of the profits
*drool* i dont think they will make any profits they cost 250 at merchant, now every1 has alot of them and no1 need to buy anymore so he will sell them to merchant for 200g.
*drool* i dont think they will make any profits they cost 250 at merchant, now every1 has alot of them and no1 need to buy anymore so he will sell them to merchant for 200g.
JediKnight
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Originally Posted by koneko
Hmmmm Seems that Elementalists would have lost out yet again, 3k for Superior Fire Rune?
Across The Battle
The whole idea and reasoning of a roll back was simple. They didn't want to destroy the economy.
A rollback works approximately as such:
With any server or high end machine that keep what are called back-ups. This is where they keep a copy of everything to date. So say they backed up thier systems now, they would have everything done since day 1 to now. When a problem like this happens they have to take the back-up and restore it to the original server, and thus overwriting everything that happened since that backup was taken(obviously the back up can't know what happened after it was created.
The back up took a LONG time for a very simple reason as well, quanity. They had to restore servers for say 4 continents. Each server has say 5 RAID(Redundant array of inexpensive devices, horrible spelling by me.) HDD so 5*4=20. Each rollback would have taken maybe 45 minutes to do. Im surprised it didn't take them longer. Props to the Anet geeks.
The reasoning for the roll back is simple economics of supply and demand. Everyone has 500 Sup Absorb or Obsidian Shards, no body is there to buy them, they are worthless. The only thing to do with them is to craft your FoW armor. Over time(a long time) the runes and materials would dissipate and prices would increase, probably not to the original cost.
Oh...I wish I could have kept those shards and absorbs though..Oh how I wish...
A rollback works approximately as such:
With any server or high end machine that keep what are called back-ups. This is where they keep a copy of everything to date. So say they backed up thier systems now, they would have everything done since day 1 to now. When a problem like this happens they have to take the back-up and restore it to the original server, and thus overwriting everything that happened since that backup was taken(obviously the back up can't know what happened after it was created.
The back up took a LONG time for a very simple reason as well, quanity. They had to restore servers for say 4 continents. Each server has say 5 RAID(Redundant array of inexpensive devices, horrible spelling by me.) HDD so 5*4=20. Each rollback would have taken maybe 45 minutes to do. Im surprised it didn't take them longer. Props to the Anet geeks.
The reasoning for the roll back is simple economics of supply and demand. Everyone has 500 Sup Absorb or Obsidian Shards, no body is there to buy them, they are worthless. The only thing to do with them is to craft your FoW armor. Over time(a long time) the runes and materials would dissipate and prices would increase, probably not to the original cost.
Oh...I wish I could have kept those shards and absorbs though..Oh how I wish...