Skills - Lingering Curse

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

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Kui

Kui

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Grab off Grenth's Cursed, just E of Ember Light Camp.

Dark_$murf

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

thx ill check it out

Dark_$murf

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

thx ill check it out

saj

saj

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

A/W

can u tell me where i can find this skill pls?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Pet. Rock off the enemy "Grenth's Cursed"

Like already said.

I think its a chance spawn (not always).

Its an Elite because Its only 10% health degen, removes all enchantments no questions asked, AND decreases healing effectiveness for awhile.

Good for use on a team that uses alot of spiking dmg. You can remove those enchantments and make the monks cry when your teammates start spiking dmg on the victem.

entropy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

Best skill in the game by far. half healing and removes all enchants!

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by entropy
Best skill in the game by far. half healing and removes all enchants! couldn't agree more. lingering spike garunteed kill.

Finch

Finch

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Accident Prone [AP]

too bad the healing part ends with remove hex, holy veil, etc.

entropy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

both are too slow. In general Lingering is applied right before a spike. Now you can remove it in 1 sec but a coordinated team will spike before that. Mainly the enchant part is great its like a rend and the half healing is just a bonus. Its great since its not like they expect this to stay on long but for spikes it is one of the best.

infernolord222

infernolord222

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Souls of Lament

E/N

if this can stack with defile flesh and deep wound, your opponents would get almost no healing

insidious420

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

RisE

W/

OK, maybe I'm retarded, but this makes absolutely no sense to me:

I have a W/Me Titan farming build, but Rotting Titans are a pain in the ass because they use Lingering Curse and it cancels out Illusionary Weaponary.
I tried using Hex Breaker (Stance: next Hex cast on you fails, caster takes X dmg) to cancel the effect of Lingering Curse ... but I still lose all enchantments on me ....

Does Lingering Curse eat thru Hex Breaker because it's an Elite skill? This is really stupid.

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Quote:
Originally Posted by insidious420
OK, maybe I'm retarded, but this makes absolutely no sense to me:

I have a W/Me Titan farming build, but Rotting Titans are a pain in the ass because they use Lingering Curse and it cancels out Illusionary Weaponary.
I tried using Hex Breaker (Stance: next Hex cast on you fails, caster takes X dmg) to cancel the effect of Lingering Curse ... but I still lose all enchantments on me ....

Does Lingering Curse eat thru Hex Breaker because it's an Elite skill? This is really stupid. Think of water hexes - The damage of a water hex is a front-ended effect that triggers independently from the hex effect. Hex breaker would not counter the damage in that instance either.
The same goes for Lingering Curse. The 'Lose All Enchantments' is not part of the hex effect. It's a front-ended effect. Only the 50% reduction in healing is part of the actual hex aspect.

Rajamic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

IA

Chronicles of Heroes [CoH]

R/Me

No, that would be a bug. I think I know why the bug is there, but it's still a bug.


Edit: Still Mercury, Hex Breaker should protect you from ALL effects of a hex spell, not just the ones that stick to you for a duration.

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajamic
No, that would be a bug. I think I know why the bug is there, but it's still a bug.


Edit: Still Mercury, Hex Breaker should protect you from ALL effects of a hex spell, not just the ones that stick to you for a duration. It's true that it's supposed to 'fail' being a hex. It's either bad wording, or dysfunctionality on the part of Hex Breaker. The point was to explain why things are working the way they are, and pointing out that this phenomena is NOT limited to Lingering Curse. Any other hexes with a front-ended effect perform the same way.
This is by no means the only time that Anet has written a misleading skill description.

insidious420

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

RisE

W/

Grrrr... frustrating answer, but you make a valid argument, Mercury. At the same time tho, logically it doesn't make much sense because the "strip enchantments" effect doesn't appear out of thin air -- it comes from the Hex Spell (Lingering Curse); therefore, any effect that results from the casting of the HEX spell should be blocked by HEX BREAKER.
In my opinion, this specific example is highly unbalanced; there is no way to block the enchantment stripping...
I guess I'll just have to agree also that A.Net didn't do a great job with a lot of the skill descriptions. This definetly isn't the first time I've been frustrated with a skill. :P

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

No it shouldn't. Lingering Curse is a 2-part hex. If the remove enchantments part of it was considered a hex then this would seriously screw up some other descriptions and skills too, also making hex breaker extremely overpowered since it'd completely eliminate Water Magic from existance.

TGgold

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

I'm going with the instant effect of the spell, then the hex occurs.

Hexes occur over time, and are signified by the icon that shows up. This means hex break eats at the lingering effects of the curse, but not the instant effect.
I know that it may annoy some people, but it makes perfect sense in my head at least. I mean, as stated before, if hex breaker stopped the whole spell, then Water Magic would be *less* playable.

If the spell had Enchant Removal as part of the hex (such as 'after 3 seconds, taget foe loses all enchantments') than Hex Breaker would block it. But it doesn't read that way, does it?