Rubies and Sapphire.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

I notice the price of these keeps climbing. Do people know something about factions that I don't?

zerulus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

people are just speculating, they better hope they're right=)

Dav85

Dav85

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I notice the price of these keeps climbing. Do people know something about factions that I don't?
well... it's 100% confirmed that they'll be used for jewels in factions.
guess noone knows the correct price for rub/sapph.
depends if jewels will have some hp/energy/skills bonus or just something that shines...
the current price is for the "shining only" theory, because considering the drop rate if jewels will have some bonus stat rub/sapph prices will skyrocket.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

It's hard to avoid the suspicion that it's people in the beta (or who know people in the beta) who are buying, though.

ixg

ixg

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

we'll just have to see. i'm not buying em.

heavy metal rules

heavy metal rules

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

cape cod, ma

{bkr} bad karma ressurection

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they will have a use in factions gaile said in her chat a few months back, as to how they will be implimented, she couldn't say for sure, just that they will be used, (eg. bracelets, earings, necklaces) or something else.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

^Woah...now there's a perfectly good reason to be buying em.

ShadowStorm

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Take me where I cannot stand.

The Better Part of Valor

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by heavy metal rules
they will have a use in factions gaile said in her chat a few months back, as to how they will be implimented, she couldn't say for sure, just that they will be used, (eg. bracelets, earings, necklaces) or something else.
Actually Gaile didn't say they'd be used in Factions, only that they'd be used in the future. So we have absolutely no idea whether they'll be used soon (as in Chapter 2) or sometime far off (Chapter 24 anyone?)

Dav85

Dav85

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowStorm
Actually Gaile didn't say they'd be used in Factions, only that they'd be used in the future. So we have absolutely no idea whether they'll be used soon (as in Chapter 2) or sometime far off (Chapter 24 anyone?)
she said jewels will come with factions. what u think jewels are done with? black dyes?

Stormfall

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Soviet Canuckistan

Makil Astalder [MAR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dav85
she said jewels will come with factions. what u think jewels are done with? black dyes?
Assuming Factions will use any item at all from the Prophecies campaign to make jewels. It could easily be the case that a) jewels aren't made from anything and just come whole in Factions, b) another Factions item is used to craft them, and/or c) we won't know until the preview event/live release

deathdela

deathdela

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Playing Guild Wars and Getting [high]

W/R

Although she may have been saying that to trick people into buying them so they act as a money sink. Yeah they may be used but they could be used for the equivalant of drogs or something making them decrease to 300g or something. No one knows what they are for yet so unless you have a lot of money to invest dont buy them.

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

I've only bought about 3 of ea. I think I'll just sit on what I've got. I'm a conservative investor. Though I met someone the other day that has over 1000 of ea. She'll be very rich if they turn out to be the ectos of Cantha.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

With 2000 gems at 8000 a pop I think she's very rich already.

JiggyFly

JiggyFly

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

So-Cal

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Mo/

I bought some rubies and saphires, but only because I anticipate right after Factions comes out for them to skyrocket in price. So I bought a few in the off chance that if they are for something worthwhile I won't have to spend loads because the price of them went up.

I assume it's entirely possible however that they are ued for somthing less desirable, and that Anet simply built up the hype around them in order to cause people to buy them and get money out of the economy. I suppose that's the worst case scenario, and in that case I blew 50k.

Dav85

Dav85

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

i have 200 of both and i'm fine... just waiting

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by JiggyFly
I bought some rubies and saphires, but only because I anticipate right after Factions comes out for them to skyrocket in price. So I bought a few in the off chance that if they are for something worthwhile I won't have to spend loads because the price of them went up.

I assume it's entirely possible however that they are ued for somthing less desirable, and that Anet simply built up the hype around them in order to cause people to buy them and get money out of the economy. I suppose that's the worst case scenario, and in that case I blew 50k.
LOL. I can see, and hope to a small degree, that ANET did such a thing. Jewellery will probally just be accessories to make you look as different as you can, it wont really have much more use I'm betting, which is fine with me.

Plus, I'm also betting Rubies and Sapphires aren't the only things we'll be able to use. Jade, Amythest, Quartz, etc.etc.

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I notice the price of these keeps climbing. Do people know something about factions that I don't?
dam it I want less people know so I can cash in when time is due

Permasiel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Frozen Flame [ICE]

E/Mo

If there's a use for materials, Guild Wars always has a way to provide you with them, wether you craft them (materials crafter), or whether there are grounds to farm them (UW/ecto, FoW/shards).

I'm rather doubtfull about gems getting real importance if there's no way for people to get them reasonnably. I think most people who got stacks of them are gonna be seriously disappointed.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Everyone's forgetting the simple and likely case that if jewels are used/needed in Factions they'll drop at an increased rate that makes them feasible. Why pay crazy money now for something that won't be as rare later?

Head_Damage

Head_Damage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

England

WH

W/Mo

ypu actually never know what there jewels are used for and there will be many ideas floating around what pepole well as may pass on for example

rubbies could just be shards and you may need a several amount to make a whole rubbie or something similar with a dif name or you may be able to connect the shard to make a whole obsidian weapon for your ass or rit

the jewels could also be so easily dropped by many of the enimies over there and turn into the stuff like blots of cloth or bones from the undead of cathana. anything could be possible i suppose its just time to wait

Dav85

Dav85

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Everyone's forgetting the simple and likely case that if jewels are used/needed in Factions they'll drop at an increased rate that makes them feasible. Why pay crazy money now for something that won't be as rare later?
very simple: they have an inner value of 250, while ectos and shards are 100g.
5-5.5k (which is the average i payed for my gems) it's not crazy money to me, it's pretty cheap even if jewels wont have any stat bonus.

btw, someone like to invest money on perfect weapons, i prefer to have gems, where's the problem?

Alcazanar

Alcazanar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon (swe)

Desert Flame [DF]

W/N

i dont think buying them cus they are valueable in rl
is a good idea at all, however its not a greater
idea to buy them cus they might be used in chapter 2
and from there (if they are) they might be used in
the armor of your choise....

not a good reason to me

bebe

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

i've still very skeptical of buying rubies or sapphires. i only have about 3 rubies and 6 sapphires, collection from drops over the past year of playing gw :P

we'll just have to wait n see what they do.

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

I'd be laughing so hard if they're common drops in factions^^

bebe

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eclair
I'd be laughing so hard if they're common drops in factions^^
thats what im thinking ^^

not all "rare crafting materials" are that good :P
i wouldn't be surprised if they turn out to be just like a bolt of linen or fur square

now, the other rare crafts that been neglected.. like monsterous eye or the sprintwood plank thingy. now i can see those being something along to lines of being used for new 15k or mayb even uw armor? :O dunno if theres any signs of uw armor :P

Vanquisher

Site Contributor

Join Date: Mar 2005

Herts, UK

One Hitter Quitters [QQ]

I've stocked up on around 2000 Rubies/Sapphires - 4 stacks of each. I can definately see them getting used for something incredibly cool in the near future

JediKnight

JediKnight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

A Galaxy Far Far Away

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanquisher
I've stocked up on around 2000 Rubies/Sapphires - 4 stacks of each. I can definately see them getting used for something incredibly cool in the near future
After stocking up that many, I would pay good money to see the look on your face if the prove worthless in Cantha.

Nothing is guaranteed regarding the factions economy.

Vanquisher

Site Contributor

Join Date: Mar 2005

Herts, UK

One Hitter Quitters [QQ]

Not like it's my only investment, shrug.

dbgtboy

dbgtboy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

irl

i quit playing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Temptress
now, the other rare crafts that been neglected.. like monsterous eye or the sprintwood plank thingy. now i can see those being something along to lines of being used for new 15k or mayb even uw armor? :O dunno if theres any signs of uw armor :P
those are what im stocking up on hehe, im just hoping the price rises on them.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

And let us not forget that even if these sales are based on leaks from beta testers that beta and final versions are often worlds apart. They might decide to chop the gem functionality out of it before it even hits shelves. Who knows?

Sergio Leone

Sergio Leone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dallas, TX

The International Terrorists [USA]

W/Mo

Alright, people are speculating that the prices will atleast double if not more which will be awesome if it does. Now what people are starting to fret is if these DON'T skyrocket. Well here's the thing, if they don't it's ok. No matter what the outcome is if you bought those gems when they were 3,4 or even 6k each you will most likely not BLOW any gold. I highly doubt the prices will fall below that very quickly. SOOO if there is no use for them then you just sell it back and be sitting on a nice chunk of change.

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

rubies and saphs already drop in uw/fow and from fire imps. so that means it's not a material that can be crafted, u have to find it.

as for their use, most likely it will be something expensive to show off with that has no other benefit, just like fow armor.

i'll probly buy 250 of each if i'll be there for the price rest, if not, i won't be wasting my time farming them.

emopunky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Cary, NC

The Stock Market

W/Mo

Its only a matter of time until we find out... =/

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

I'd like to invest in them as well, but who knows... they might not even be used at all.... but still..... :/

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Head_Damage
you may be able to connect the shard to make a whole weapon for your ass
Woah. TMI, there, Head!

Nater

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Illusion Of Skill

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanquisher
I've stocked up on around 2000 Rubies/Sapphires - 4 stacks of each. I can definately see them getting used for something incredibly cool in the near future
If you have that many, why are you wasting your time even investing? You're going to have to spend more real $$ to buy more accounts to hold all the wealth.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dav85
very simple: they have an inner value of 250, while ectos and shards are 100g.
5-5.5k (which is the average i payed for my gems) it's not crazy money to me, it's pretty cheap even if jewels wont have any stat bonus.

btw, someone like to invest money on perfect weapons, i prefer to have gems, where's the problem?
None at all whatsoever. I just expect in the chapter that uses the gems for a purpose, be it Factions or a future one, the drop rate will be increased. Simple enough.

wiz12268

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Men In Black

I do not think it is a coincidence that ghe prices of Rubies, Saphires, AND ectos have risen since yeasterday's debacle.

People have known about the use in the facction update for weeks now, and the price of Ecto DROPPED, and the prices of rubies and saphires was fluctuating around 6-7K usually at 6500.Now I lig on to see Ectos at 9K (up from 6500 yesterday) and Rubies and saphires at 8500 and 8000 respectively. That is quite a jump. I have over 400 of each, and was buying whenever I saw them recently at 6K. I could buy between 20-28 before the price would rise to 6500, so to get to 8 and 9 K that is A LOT of buying, and buying at pirces that are a lot higher than have been widely and very recently avaialble. Doesn't make sense to me. No one buys off the merchants if they can hep it. I only do it because I have more plats than I have room, so I buy something I think I will be using in the near future.

Also who is buying ectos off a merchant these days for 7K or more when you can get them for 6500 to 6800(7K at the most) in TOA?

They talk about game economy and screwing everything up, but whenever they try to "fix" it, it gets screwed up even more.

My other favorite is monsterous eyes. There are now selling at 1700 per, up from about 470 or so last I cared to notice. Who in the hell is buying that many monsterous eyes from the merchants to make the pirces go up like that? They have absolutely ZERO use from what I have heard, and I doubt they will be used for anything other than a head piece or something (which generally requires only one of an item to make) SO why hoard them? Or is it just anther glitch that is a by product of the fix?

So to me it isn't a coincidence that all of a sudden prices for the materials that people hoarded yesterday have suddenly jumped up 20-30% in price. Ectos have risen 40% up to 9K from 6500. Steep jumps in a one day period for sure.

I am done trying to figure it out and what they think they are doing, it is obvious they don't know either. Trying to fix an economy in a game that is supposed to be about skill is ironic enough. trying to manipulate prices of certain items and materials is even more ludicrous. But it seems to generally be the result whenever they try to"fix" something.

dr1zz one

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

im thinking of stockpiling clay bricks so i can build a storage house!

i have only 1 saphire.

shadowfell

shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by wiz12268
I do not think it is a coincidence that ghe prices of Rubies, Saphires, AND ectos have risen since yeasterday's debacle.

People have known about the use in the facction update for weeks now, and the price of Ecto DROPPED, and the prices of rubies and saphires was fluctuating around 6-7K usually at 6500.Now I lig on to see Ectos at 9K (up from 6500 yesterday) and Rubies and saphires at 8500 and 8000 respectively. That is quite a jump. I have over 400 of each, and was buying whenever I saw them recently at 6K. I could buy between 20-28 before the price would rise to 6500, so to get to 8 and 9 K that is A LOT of buying, and buying at pirces that are a lot higher than have been widely and very recently avaialble. Doesn't make sense to me. No one buys off the merchants if they can hep it. I only do it because I have more plats than I have room, so I buy something I think I will be using in the near future.

Also who is buying ectos off a merchant these days for 7K or more when you can get them for 6500 to 6800(7K at the most) in TOA?

They talk about game economy and screwing everything up, but whenever they try to "fix" it, it gets screwed up even more.

My other favorite is monsterous eyes. There are now selling at 1700 per, up from about 470 or so last I cared to notice. Who in the hell is buying that many monsterous eyes from the merchants to make the pirces go up like that? They have absolutely ZERO use from what I have heard, and I doubt they will be used for anything other than a head piece or something (which generally requires only one of an item to make) SO why hoard them? Or is it just anther glitch that is a by product of the fix?

So to me it isn't a coincidence that all of a sudden prices for the materials that people hoarded yesterday have suddenly jumped up 20-30% in price. Ectos have risen 40% up to 9K from 6500. Steep jumps in a one day period for sure.

I am done trying to figure it out and what they think they are doing, it is obvious they don't know either. Trying to fix an economy in a game that is supposed to be about skill is ironic enough. trying to manipulate prices of certain items and materials is even more ludicrous. But it seems to generally be the result whenever they try to"fix" something.
I've been buying monsterous bits slowly, for months.