Pre-Searing Flute Girl
rook818
Is there anything more with her than finding the broken flute? She offers to follow you...Do you take her somewhere? Or is there nothing?
Fantras
When you give her the flute, she follows you around and will sometimes heal you. I never did it.
Tsukiyomi
Also, if you give her red iris flowers, she gives you a tapestry shred. (although some people say you need to buy her the cape, but i never did and i still got it)
rook818
I had her following me not long ago and I think she says (just floating over head text) something about wanting to find a new home and family. At one point she mentions a woman who would be a great mother...I haven't had the time to really dig into it though and was hoping someone had.
Cindare Sunstriker
New player here, but have been paying attention to Gwen and here is what I have discovered:
1) Until you give her a new flute, she doesn't progress on the story.
2) She wants at least 5 of the red iris flowers and about an hour hanging out with you to give up the tapestry shred. (I found if I left before the hour, she seems to reset and I had to do it over again. Took me three times to get the tapestry shred from her.)
Note: At this point, she now appears in every area I enter that is not a city area. At first, she only appeared to me if I were coming into Lakeside from Aschalon.
3) After about two and a half hours (real time) running around with her, she mentions how she'd love to have a pretty cape like (forgot the name, sorry). At this point, I gave her the girls cape purchased from the vendor.
4) About 30 minutes or so after handing her the cape, she mentions where her mother lives and what her mother's name is (I *think* it was sharon or susan, missed it, thanks to battle spam).
Note: She recently disappeared and I have no idea why. I'm going to look for her tomorrow and see if I can get her to tell me about her mother again, then see about tracking mom down for her. Will update as events warrant.
I presume if you reunite her with her mother, you'll meet her sometime after the searing. She mentions that she wants to be a famous musician, and I have a sneaking suspicion that tapestry piece will be very useful later on... of course at this point, that's a guess.
If anyone happens to know the mother's name, I would appreciate a confirmation on it. I do want to finish up with her before heading out into the big world.
1) Until you give her a new flute, she doesn't progress on the story.
2) She wants at least 5 of the red iris flowers and about an hour hanging out with you to give up the tapestry shred. (I found if I left before the hour, she seems to reset and I had to do it over again. Took me three times to get the tapestry shred from her.)
Note: At this point, she now appears in every area I enter that is not a city area. At first, she only appeared to me if I were coming into Lakeside from Aschalon.
3) After about two and a half hours (real time) running around with her, she mentions how she'd love to have a pretty cape like (forgot the name, sorry). At this point, I gave her the girls cape purchased from the vendor.
4) About 30 minutes or so after handing her the cape, she mentions where her mother lives and what her mother's name is (I *think* it was sharon or susan, missed it, thanks to battle spam).
Note: She recently disappeared and I have no idea why. I'm going to look for her tomorrow and see if I can get her to tell me about her mother again, then see about tracking mom down for her. Will update as events warrant.
I presume if you reunite her with her mother, you'll meet her sometime after the searing. She mentions that she wants to be a famous musician, and I have a sneaking suspicion that tapestry piece will be very useful later on... of course at this point, that's a guess.
If anyone happens to know the mother's name, I would appreciate a confirmation on it. I do want to finish up with her before heading out into the big world.
UsagiNoSenshi
Gwen's mother is Sarah.
Gear853
I found her broken flute post searing... anything on that? :s
Potatopopper
I read on another forum that this quest is broken and that the devs will fix it...eventually. Someone supposedly emailed tech support and received an email from tech support saying the devs will fix the quest and that it is broken. The poster posted the email message and it did seem legite. I don't have the link anymore though. You could always try to google for it and see if it comes up for you.
Galatea
Yeah, her mom's name is Sarah, and I found a Sarah in Pre-seared Ascalon. Gwen was tagging along with me, but neither Gwen nor Sarah seemed to care about each other.
Question - if you bought the flute and/or cape for her on one character, does Gwen continue storywise for your other characters, as well? Because I never bought her the flute or cape on my main character, and I'm already level 18 lol.. so I went to Pre-seared with a new character to befriend Gwen, and then put the Tapestry Shred in my inventory.
Question - if you bought the flute and/or cape for her on one character, does Gwen continue storywise for your other characters, as well? Because I never bought her the flute or cape on my main character, and I'm already level 18 lol.. so I went to Pre-seared with a new character to befriend Gwen, and then put the Tapestry Shred in my inventory.
Cindare Sunstriker
Not sure, but I'm guessing you run into Gwen later in life and that tapestry shred will be important to her (or someone who knows or knew her).
Also guessing that later, she and her mom will want to be reunited.
Also guessing that later, she and her mom will want to be reunited.
BahamutKaiser
If you join a party with someone who has bought her a cape or new flute then you will automaticly be updated to that persons status (I.E. Resurrection Signet). But you will not get the tapestry right away if you do that, or at all as far as I have seen.
From my experience, I find her broken flute, then save up enough to give her a flute, cape, and a flower all at once, and she always give me a tapestry shred, immediatly, and she says your her favorite person in the whole world, next to Mom.
So unless the time factor is cumalative of the time spent on all occasions then it doesn't exsist at all. Many have reported getting the tapestry by giving her several flowers, but I've tried giving her dozens of flowers with my first character and it never worked.
I've found broken flutes more then once on the same character in post seering, and they are not quest items. So I don't know that it matters much.
I've scoured most of pre seering from the the back of Wayward Wizard and all of the secret passages of the Catacombs, and I haven't found anything that has to do with the tapestry shred, I've also fought monsters like the River Drake and the Skale Brood (not broodcaller), and I even tolk a pot shot at taking down the fire callers in pre seering (you would have to be way over lvled to win) and I never saw anything back there either. I don't know what the tapestry shred is for, but it probably is a broken quest like formentioned, I would like to know if it is a quest you can complete post seering though, if it isn't then I'll just toss the shred on my other characters.
From my experience, I find her broken flute, then save up enough to give her a flute, cape, and a flower all at once, and she always give me a tapestry shred, immediatly, and she says your her favorite person in the whole world, next to Mom.
So unless the time factor is cumalative of the time spent on all occasions then it doesn't exsist at all. Many have reported getting the tapestry by giving her several flowers, but I've tried giving her dozens of flowers with my first character and it never worked.
I've found broken flutes more then once on the same character in post seering, and they are not quest items. So I don't know that it matters much.
I've scoured most of pre seering from the the back of Wayward Wizard and all of the secret passages of the Catacombs, and I haven't found anything that has to do with the tapestry shred, I've also fought monsters like the River Drake and the Skale Brood (not broodcaller), and I even tolk a pot shot at taking down the fire callers in pre seering (you would have to be way over lvled to win) and I never saw anything back there either. I don't know what the tapestry shred is for, but it probably is a broken quest like formentioned, I would like to know if it is a quest you can complete post seering though, if it isn't then I'll just toss the shred on my other characters.
Hand of Shiva
Actually its pretty easy to get the shred, just get her broken flute for her, buy her a new flute and every red iris you find give it to her and bang she gives you the tapestry shred. No need to bust your pre searing wallet on a red cape for the little leech 
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pHobac
I have the shred, and this girl has been pissing me off because i haven't figured this quest out in all my time playing this game.
And before anyone wastes time with the Charr theory, I went out with a friend and killed every monster north of the wall pre-searing, including the big mob at the fire temple/fort thingy. A royal pain in the ass. And it didn't shed any light on the situation.
And before anyone wastes time with the Charr theory, I went out with a friend and killed every monster north of the wall pre-searing, including the big mob at the fire temple/fort thingy. A royal pain in the ass. And it didn't shed any light on the situation.
Taphoo
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Originally Posted by Hand of Shiva
Actually its pretty easy to get the shred, just get her broken flute for her, buy her a new flute and every red iris you find give it to her and bang she gives you the tapestry shred. No need to bust your pre searing wallet on a red cape for the little leech .
Hey!! Careful how you talk about Gwen! Don't you remember what she did to us *in town* a few months back?!? 
*shudder*
*shudder*
Silvanos
After spending a whole lot of time with Gwen. Never really tested how long because well it wasnt really importent. I noticed that Sarah had dissappeared from Ashford area in the exploreable area. Yet when i had gone a day before she had been there talking about getting some sort of root or something. Could it be that you have to spend time with gwen then go look for her mother when she isnt in Ashford anymore? Already left preseering Ascalon will have to go look into it sometime. Also maybe you have to give the shread to her mother later in game?
Ketendra
I think Sara is just random, she was there one time, then when I went back she was gone, and when I went back a couple of days later she was there again.
Samuel
This was posted by someone in my guild over at the Penny Arcade forums, thought I should post it here to clear things up.
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Originally Posted by Brink
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I talked to the devs at E3 and asked them. Giving her all that shit pre-searing has no effect other than getting her to heal you.
Finding her broken flute post searing is just a memento, nothing more. The bastards.
Finding her broken flute post searing is just a memento, nothing more. The bastards.
alestian
So, does anyone know if you actually get to meet back up with Gwen after you cross over into the real part of the game?
Divinus
I don't know much about her but she is pretty helpful with the healing.
Atlantis
I just hope that the dev's take gwen to heart, and don't do a cheap quest finish. Hopefully they'll really tie her into the story down the line.
kowboi22
I agree. I love Gwen, she's a doll. Never noticed her healing me though. But I found after giving her 5 flowers, after giving her the flute you get the shred. I hope it becomes something at one point. Don't want to make it a waste of space in my inventory. I think becoming a Profession specifc armor piece or something would be great. Or a big bag of holding.
Dirt Merchent
Anyone ever go to Underworld i went there earlier and there was a ghost named Sarah asking where Gwen was or something like that. Might be something to look into. She is right there as you start.
gotanybob
They better not blow off gwen like that..
Maiyn
Hey i think I've seen that ghost too.. hmmm.
I was totally wondering about that broken flute lol. Everyone else I've seen doesn't seem to know what's up either.
I was totally wondering about that broken flute lol. Everyone else I've seen doesn't seem to know what's up either.
Althanis
Maybe it's just a red herring. Baldur's Gate had one I remember.
Tomo
About what bahamut says- If you go party with someone who bought her the cape, she has the cape for you too now, however her relation ship remains unchanged.
If anyone wants to find out the truth, i think the best bet would be to take the tapestry shred to the ghost of sarah in the underworld...good luck.
If anyone wants to find out the truth, i think the best bet would be to take the tapestry shred to the ghost of sarah in the underworld...good luck.
Berdo
I have the tapestry shred, the broken flute, and the tattered cape with me, and still Sarah in UW is basically untalkable to. She just wanders around. No idea whats going on.
Cindare Sunstriker
Pre-searing, Gwen plays her flute (once you've given it to her) and heals you for +20. She talks about her mom (Sarah) and Sarah shows up in the village once you've turned in the cape to Gwen, but they don't seem to recognize one another and have no apparent interest in one another (I've parked Gwen at Sarah in Lakeside to no avail).
Post-Searing, I find a 'broken flute' near Grazden every time.
It would be really cool if Gwen were the omen of a new bard class.... but I'm not holding my breath.
Post-Searing, I find a 'broken flute' near Grazden every time.
It would be really cool if Gwen were the omen of a new bard class.... but I'm not holding my breath.
Tomo
You shouldnt. We have monks for such things ^^. Maybe something in the expansion about gwen being a chosen one ?
MrMight
If it does tie up in the story, what about the people who didnt bother with gwen? Or didnt relize what u have to do? It would be a bit unfair if she was part of the MAJOR story line. But maybe it could work, and the people who got the stuff for her will get extras from her, she will like rember you or somthing.
zeon_scar
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Originally Posted by Dirt Merchent
Anyone ever go to Underworld i went there earlier and there was a ghost named Sarah asking where Gwen was or something like that. Might be something to look into. She is right there as you start.
Maby you have to give the ghost the broken flute and the tattered girls came in the future or something.
Or maby Gwen is going to come back as the secret undercover Charr leader and caused the searing. lol
((Ok lats bit a bit to far fetched))
Or maby Gwen is going to come back as the secret undercover Charr leader and caused the searing. lol
((Ok lats bit a bit to far fetched))
Hand of Shiva
As far as I can tell there are three different clues in post searing about Gwen. 1 is the broken flute found in ascelon. 2 there is a tattered girls cape (red) outside of fisherman's haven in kryta, and then 3rd theres the ghost of Sarah looking for her daughter. So we know she didn't bite the big one. I mean come on she can heal for 20 health after all nothing could take her down.
Asplode
Between Sanctum Cay and Fisherman's Haven is a "little girl's cape" or something like that. Marked as a salvage item, but you can't sell/salvage it, but it's worth 200g! :O
eA-Zaku
Two hundred gold is chump change 
Do standard quest items work if you transfer them to another character? I'm worried because I didn't bother to find enough Red Iris Flowers to get a Tapestry Shred, and I'm hoping I can start a new character, give the Shred to my high level, and it will still work for whatever the Tapestry Shred does (future quest or whatever)
Do standard quest items work if you transfer them to another character? I'm worried because I didn't bother to find enough Red Iris Flowers to get a Tapestry Shred, and I'm hoping I can start a new character, give the Shred to my high level, and it will still work for whatever the Tapestry Shred does (future quest or whatever)
doasinfinity87
yes i have been figuring out this quest for a long long time...i thought that the shred would be used in pre searing so basically i went every where talked to everysingle person and didnt get no where! lol damn. Well it was interesting reading the clues that you guys have found. I think that if you find all of gwens "left behinds" and give it to sarah something mite happen? i dunno im still in krya and i dont tink im near the underworld yet so i cant really talk. But After reading all these post i do feel some what "attatched" to this gwen's story and i think they should include her story in the game or something
Bathemael
I'm pretty new to the game and my first character is only in yak's bend so far, so i can't try these ideas myself. There is a broken flute, and a tattered cape post-searing, and a tapestry shred pre-searing. and it is believed that Gwen's mom's ghost is encountered later in the game. has anyone tried adding one of the iris flowers(her favorite) to their inventory and then try talking to the ghost?
or what about performing certain actions near the ghost? i thought i read somewhere that if you kneel near a statue or fountain of lyssa you trigger something. has anyone tried an action near the ghost to maybe activate a trigger?
What about gwen having a dad? i didn't listen to her or her mom talk much when i was in pre-searing but i wouldn't be surprised if some guy in the game mentioned something about them if you stand near him long enough. I could easily imagine some quest involving the dad wishing to give a message to the mom about what happened to gwen to "put her soul at rest" or something. she is a ghost after all, they are a ghost for a reason.
let me know what you think or if you have tried any of these methods, i'd love to figure this one out as i go along. i'm certainly going to talk to NPCs alot more to look for random messages.
or what about performing certain actions near the ghost? i thought i read somewhere that if you kneel near a statue or fountain of lyssa you trigger something. has anyone tried an action near the ghost to maybe activate a trigger?
What about gwen having a dad? i didn't listen to her or her mom talk much when i was in pre-searing but i wouldn't be surprised if some guy in the game mentioned something about them if you stand near him long enough. I could easily imagine some quest involving the dad wishing to give a message to the mom about what happened to gwen to "put her soul at rest" or something. she is a ghost after all, they are a ghost for a reason.
let me know what you think or if you have tried any of these methods, i'd love to figure this one out as i go along. i'm certainly going to talk to NPCs alot more to look for random messages.
Vhayr
Gwen's dad is dead, she mentions this quite a lot when she's walking around with me.
tracy
i think they fixed the quest because the cape outside of fisherman's haven is a quest item now. 
EchoSex
Thought I'd share this: I heard a REALLY crackpot theory/story on this in local chat one day. From what I heard, you can kill Gwen if you collect 3 flutes, and something about a broken leg. Thats all I can remember at the moment but I think I can dig it up somewhere. It was really out there, but I thought I'd share it nonetheless. BTW, I hope they add Gwen in. Would be a cool little add to the game's story (kind of like that fish chick from Zelda: Ocerna of Time. Ya'll know what I'm talking about, right?)
Ketendra
The cape in Fishermans Haven was changed to a quest item a while ago, and as far as anyone knows the quest is not fixed yet, there will probably be a post about it when it is since there are so many questions about it (not just on the boards, but I know a few people that have also sent to ANet about it, and got the responce that the quest is broke) At this point it is just something that makes everyone currious.