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wiz12268

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Men In Black

Gold UNIDENTIFED (but tested) Gold Shadow bow.

Is 5/1 Vampiric and an 8 requirement on it.

Also has a decent mod on it, I am guessing 15^50 or 15 always -10 (since it doesn't have a negative effect on my energy).

I know that is a lot harder to test, but I testsed on the dummies at Isle of Nameless, I am confident it is at least 14%. On the 80 armor after 15 shots it had an average of 22.8. (not counting the -5 per hit for the vamp. My 15 always longbow had an average of 20.55 for 15 shots. My 15 always vamp shortbow had an ave of 22.7 per shot(not counting -5 per hit. The 14 always had an average of 19.4 after 15 shots.

So actually it outperformed all the known bows I have. But since I only did one run per bow that can be taken any way, but it has to be a good mod on it.

Basically what is the differnce between a 5/1 vamp with an average damage mod(13-14%) worth compared to a 15^50 IDed bow with a 5/1 string on it?

Since I already have several bows with 15 always. 15^50, and the 14% ones I can't sell. is it better to try and sell unided as a 5/1 vamp with 8 req and try to get 25-30K or is it better to ID it hope it is 15^50 or 15 always and try and spam it for 4-5 times that?

Taken

Taken

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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I'd ID it b/c I think you're overestimating what you can get for it unided. No one will believe you unless they try it themselves and, what are you going to do, just hand it over?

Malice Black

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i cant believe this...u want us to PC a tested item lolol go away

pOmrAkkUn

pOmrAkkUn

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iden it 14% or 15% can sell for more than Uniden anyways
if u still can't sell, may b u set ur price too high

NinjaKai

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Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
i cant believe this...u want us to PC a tested item lolol go away
Why don't you go away instead. Your comment was pointless and insulting. And besides I have no doubt that any PC of yours would be an uneducated guess.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Originally Posted by NinjaKai
Why don't you go away instead. Your comment was pointless and insulting. And besides I have no doubt that any PC of yours would be an uneducated guess.
ROFL ive bought and sold more things then u have had hot dinners..

capitalist

capitalist

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Yeah Malice has no idea wtf he is talking about... LMAO.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Originally Posted by capitalist
Yeah Malice has no idea wtf he is talking about... LMAO.
who invited the nubcake?

wiz12268

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Men In Black

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
i cant believe this...u want us to PC a tested item lolol go away
It is actually more ethical than selling something that is untested.

Check my threads where I sell my unideds. I post what it is before, and I post the specifics after.

I don't sell chest trash. I sell onyl stuff I get from dead monsters. For the most part it is worth more than what I charge, but with people always looking to buy perfect it makes it alot easier to sell a 13 to14% bow. I have about 6 14% bows that I cna't even give away. So if this bow does in fact turn out to be a 14% even with a 5/1 vamp (which IS easilly proven by the little blue +5 floating over my head when I use it) I doubt I could sell it for what I could get for it unided.

I have seen you post ridicuous PCs for months, yet when offered to sell to you, you (politely) turn down the option, even at a fraction of your PCed price. That says more about your PCs than anything.

It is easy to say something is worth X amount, it is another to actually be willing to pay that yourself or even find someone that would pay that much.

I had several +5 insightful staffs posted in there (that were B/O) listed at 12K per unidentified. I could have ided them and hoped to get a GREAT staff, or I could sell at 25% off what a +5 insightful (the KNOWN upgrade) is going for and hope that they get a good staff or they gamble and salvage it. Or maybe they are unlocking for a PvP character as well.

I would rather sell it for 20-25K and get it out of my inventory, than ID it, and see a 13 or 14% Which is not that horrible a mod(as seen by testing)and have someone think it is shit and not want it, when they don't have a clue that in terms of overall damage it is almost a non factor. Or even ID it, get a 15 always -10 armor or 15^50 with a 5/1 vamp, figure it is worth 100-150K (depending on Shadows desire ATM) and not have anyone that can afford it want it, thus having it stuck in my inventory still.

That was the reason for my original question.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

I have seen you post ridicuous PCs for months, yet when offered to sell to you, you (politely) turn down the option, even at a fraction of your PCed price. That says more about your PCs than anything

^^^^^i dont buy shit thats why, most things PC on here are shit

wiz12268

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Men In Black

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black

^^^^^i dont buy shit thats why, most things PC on here are shit
Then why are you PCing stuff then?

If most PCs are shit, and you don't buy anything? That is the biggest oxymoron for such a short statement I have ever seen on this, or any other forum. Congrats.

Malice Black

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lol read it... i said most thing's price checked on here are shit..

why do ppl always try to bash me lol

wiz12268

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Join Date: Jul 2005

California

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Not bashing, but when I see you PC something for 500K, they offer to sell it to you for half that, and you turn it down, that says a lot. If it WERE worth that much, then you would buy and resell. Even if it were worth more than half what you pced it for you would make a profit.

But for shits and giggles PC a 15^50 5/1 vamp shadow bow 8 req.

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

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Malice youre such a godamned noob, everyone knows that an unidentified item that people say is 15% always or above 50% is worth 50k+. I mean come on how could you not know that everyones word selling things is always true no matter what. I guess you just werent mean for GW.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by wiz12268
Not bashing, but when I see you PC something for 500K, they offer to sell it to you for half that, and you turn it down, that says a lot. If it WERE worth that much, then you would buy and resell. Even if it were worth more than half what you pced it for you would make a profit.

But for shits and giggles PC a 15^50 5/1 vamp shadow bow 8 req.
lol yea ok, no1 has ever offered to sell me a 500k item for 250k so that bulllshit

as for the 15^50 shadow 100k

and DB... :P

wiz12268

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Men In Black

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Originally Posted by derrtyboy69
Malice youre such a godamned noob, everyone knows that an unidentified item that people say is 15% always or above 50% is worth 50k+. I mean come on how could you not know that everyones word selling things is always true no matter what. I guess you just werent mean for GW.
Well a 8 req untested shadow bow will get at least 10-15K normally. Even the chance at getting a 5/1 vamp string on a salvage is worth that much. Not sure where you got 50K from either, I believe I said 20-25K would be a B/O price, which isn't that bad a deal if you ask me, espeically when people buy unided all the time with out a clue what it is going to be.

As for taking my word for it. I sell enough stuff and have enough plats not to worry about lying to someone or trying to scam them out of a couple plats. Hell I bought back the new Green staff from a guy who I just sold it to because he thought it was a one handed weapon. So I don't need to scam anyone. I just don't want to have another 14% bow cluttering up my inventory. And if you ask me a 14% with a 5/1 is well worth 20-25K. But because of the fascination with "perfect" people don't see it that way.

So either sell a possible 100K + bow for 25K, or ID it and have a 25K+ bow sitting in my inventory not being used because it is "only" 14%, or a third possibility ID it, KNOW it is worth 100K,and not have anyone be able to afford it that might actually want it. Or ID it salvage it and sell the string.

But thanks for playing this has been a typical PC session here on GWG. No wonder I see guys in LA spamming something for 100K and 100 ectos so many times and then see them the next weekend with the same exact item for the same exact same price.

95% of the people playing can't afford the items people spam there, and anyone that can probably has the same thing (or better) and doesn't want it. Items are basically worth what you can get for them. An HOD sword might be "valued" at 100K and 50 ectos or whatever now, but not many people are actually BUYING them for that price. You MIGHT get 100K and 20 ectos. BUt because people have it in their heads it is "worth" more they hold onto it.

Just like Victos Bulwark. People say they are "worth" 100K (or more), but if you can SELL One for 90 you are lucky. 80 s pretty much what people are offering. SO is it worth 80 or 90 or 100? Basically worth what you can get for it.

Iknew that coming in here. I am sure if I spammed the hell out of it I could get 25K for that bow. I just don't like wasting time in LA. But since more people can afford 25 and NOT afford 100,I would rather sell something that MIGHT be worth more. If the guy gets the best great for him, he gambled so did I. That is what selling unided is all about. I was selling unided armors for months at 5k a pop. I bet I sold 4 or 5 Sup Absorbs and 10 or more Superior vigs and dozens of superior monk runes. But I also sold hundreds of "worthless"ones two. That is the nature of the beast.

At least by testing it, it gives BOTH parties involved a little more info. As I said, you might have someone selling an 8 req Shadow for 12K, and have it be not modded and a +7 shelter or something. At least his way we know at least one of the upgrades, and the potential mod. If I needed another bow I would ID it and keep it. I don't therefore I want to sell.

ThorgallSpotswood

ThorgallSpotswood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
lol read it... i said most thing's price checked on here are shit..

why do ppl always try to bash me lol
Because you can be quite mean sometimes ^_^ If he wants a PC on it unid'd...give him a PC on it unid'd. Don't get me wrong Malice-followers, I'm his friend, just stating that he can be harsh.

wiz12268

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Men In Black

Well since people were freaking out I ided it. Vampiric Shadow Bow of Charslaying 5/1 15 Always -10 attacking 20% charslaying.

Think that is the first all perfect bow I have ever seen drop. 2 perfect upgrades and a semi perfect mod.

So now I have another bow taking up space since not many people will take a -10.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

harsh lol wtf i aint the nub asking for a PC on a tested unid, such ppl ruined an already unstable market and u want me to be nice lol ok

wiz12268

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Men In Black

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
harsh lol wtf i aint the nub asking for a PC on a tested unid, such ppl ruined an already unstable market and u want me to be nice lol ok
How is asking for a PC on a tested item bad? I don't get it.

You tell people that stuff that is WORSE than what you can get off a collector is worth 100K, that is LMAO funny. Seen more than a few, I just didn't say anything, but since you started your little love fest for me I spoke up on the last one.

I think letting a person know what is "testable" is fine. What is the difference between selling an unided rune that has the Class ided, and selling an unided weapon with an upgrade or two ided? Not really sure how hard it is for people to unlock upgrades, but unlocking a vamp when you need it and getting a 5/1 to boot isn't bad IMO.

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

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Mo/Me

Malice do you start random shit cause ur bored? Cause if you do keep it up.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

u know me im all love