Skills - Ether Renewal

This is a great spell for an e/mo to weild.
Even if you DON'T use Zealot's Fire, as long as you run an enchantment heavy build, it allows you heal almost non-stop.

If you DO use Zealot's Fire, grab Aura of Restoration, and together, with Ether Renewal, you'll gain 12-15 energy every time you cast a spell. Use primarily 5 cost spammable skills, and you're gaining more than the cost of the skill back in energy.
Some use it with Divine Boon, but if it doesn't say Target Ally, and it's not necessary, then I don't bring it. I'm not going to expect people to stupidly stand next to me while I'm enchanted with Balthazar's Aura and spam something like Divine Boon.
Instead, I prefer to be able to both spam on myself, or on allies. The primary flaw with a divine boon+zealot's fire build is that you can't move while casting spells.
By choosing skills that can be cast on allies, you fix that problem. If they won't hold still for you, you can spam them on an ally nearby them if necessary.

If someone interrupts or removes it, you MAY be in for some trouble, but really it just negates your ability to be a one person army. You aren't useless just because it's off you, you can do what any caster does: Cast conservatively and maintain at least 15 energy in reserve (not a problem with a +15 energy, -1 regen focus and/or wand in reserve) so that when it's ready, you can do it again and restore you're full energy. With a huge pool of energy, you can afford to be without ether renewal for a while.
Unless you're only trick is to spam Divine Boon. In which case you ARE screwed because that does nobody any good. Ooo, you healed yourself 40 (boon+aura of restoration) for 7 energy...

Another nice thing about ether renewal is the enchantments don't have to be yours. If someone's maintaining Life Bond on you, then there's another 4-5 energy per spell cast. Someone cast Aegis? There's yet another 4-5 for the duration of the spell.

Very few skills in the game are totally useless, although there're many that're so conditional that people forego them for other skills that can perform reliably.

Ether Renewal's conditions are controlled by yourself, and unless a Well of the Profane hits you, or a Rend Enchantments that removes 4+ enchantments at once, depending on how many enchants you have to spam on yourself, it's pretty reliable in that as well.

It's a nice elite, but as such, it costs your elite slot.

I've yet to figure out a good reason to use Iron Mist. But that's just me. I'm sure someone has.

For this one, it's good for a monk secondary elementalist that uses enchantments regularly. It's not too bad for a full-on elementalist that uses at least two enchantments regularly. But if you don't really use enchantments at all, then it's kind of a waste of skill slot.

Iron mist is a really nice skill actually. Snares are definitely underrated and 90% slowdown is a snails pace. It's kind of a multi-use pacifism, especially if you have an air ele.

I'd personally rather have ele attunement than ether renewal most of the time, although that may just be a mistake of hasty judgement on my part.

Ether Renewal is absolutely amazing for an E/Mo healing build.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...251#post214251 is mine.

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Yep when I play my earth build I like to:

Run around with Earth Attunement and Armor of Earth
When I get low on energy I cast this spell.
Then I spam stone daggers or whatever it is called to essentially gain +7 energy each time I cast it. By the time the spell runs out I am at max energy again.

I usually user this with:

Flame Burst
Lava Gout
Meteor Shower
Fire Storm
Aura of Restoration
Fire Attunement
Vigorous Spirit

I cast Fire Attunement/Aura of Restoration/Vigorous Spirit, then cast Meteor Shower, Ether renewal, and spam Flame Burst and Lava Gout. I can replace Firestorm with Fireball, since it recharges pretty quick too. I can't take on like 10 monsters though, but I can farm like 6 at a time.

I don't like it. it's a waste of slot. 2 glyphs gives u 25 free energy in around 15 sec. you don't have to waste your time spamming weak spells on an enemy

My problem with this skill was that I can't seem to drain my energy quick enough without causing exhaustion -grins- Just not enough very high cost, relatively fast cast and fast recharge but no exhaustion skills for Eles, which is what really helps for this. Since I have 14 energy storage, I'm gaining +5 energy per enchantment. With Aura of Restoration and Fire Attunement, I gain +15 energy every time I cast a spell. If I spam Flare, I gain 11.5 mana and 76 health every second. If I cast Flame Burst, I *gain* 4.5 mana and 114 health.

I also wield a scroll with 20% fastcast and 20% fast recharge for Energy Storage skills whenever I cast Ether renewal. If the fast recharge fires, then it recharges in 15 seconds instead of 30, giving me litterally unlimited mana. I just can't find enough spells to cast to make unlimited mana worthwhile.

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I'm wrong. this is quite good except when your enchaments are gone you are very vulnerable.

What are opinions on this skill vrs Ether Prodigy? I am trying to work on a build and am looking for imput,

Ether Renewal is an overpowered skill, Ether Prodigy is sub-par. Only catch to Ether Renewal is you need to use it on a character that has multiple (2+) enchantments up and spams cheap spells a lot.

ether renewal is broken beyond belief.

it's an energy engine far better than anything else; even better with zephyr up.

ether prodigy is pretty bad like nash said.

Is Ether Renewal an enchantment unto itself?

i got the best build if u ask me, whether i use it for a spiker,nuker, geomancer or smiter, my basic 4 skills are: Ether Renewal, Aura of Restoration, Protective Spirit, Reversal of Fortune.... those 4 skills provide dmg protection, healing/energy gaining(i spam for 90 energy or something),

The rest is 4 Air Magic skills, 4 Fire Magic, 4 Earth, and 4 Smiter

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I even made that combo (lolfully) as my avatar

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Well, the only experience I've had with ER is a Protection/Healing Monk. Get around 10 of each skill, with ALL enchantments - including Aura of Restoration. If properly done, it should be nearly impossible to die. Reversal of Fortune will heal you a bit over 100, and that's not even with the effect.

This skill is now so bad I wish I could un-capture it.

Its not bad, I cant be bothered to work out the numbers, but ive got a feeling it will come out not rampantly overpowered, merely alright.

Ether Prodigy looks about as solid though.

Ether prodigy owns this skill so bad now it's not even funny. I bet everyone that's not an E/Mo wishes they could get their cap signet back.

EP: You get +6 energy regen for 20 seconds (unless it gets removed), no questions asked, with only two catches: one, you'll take 0 to 180-something damage after the 20 seconds are over or if the enchantment gets removed, and two, you'll get 5 points of exhaustion (which are gone by the time the skill ends anyway).

ER: if you bring along 3 other enchantments (which is pretty much maximum for anyone who's not an E/Mo or a defensive Ele and doesn't have a team of prot monks working in close coordination) and a 5-second instant-recast skill to spam while ER is on (this kind of skill isn't available for every attribute line, either), you'll gain about 45 energy every 37 seconds. And if anyone removes any of your other enchantments, you're likely to get only about 30 energy or so, because most ele enchantments have 60 second recharge times, so you'll be casting ER on top of 1 less enchantment than what you were expecting to.

Meanwhile, E/Mos, the reason this skill was nerfed in the first place, are the ones who can still get some use out of it by casting it on top of 378981WTFOMG enchantments. ANet's lousiest idea ever was nerfing ER's energy gain and duration instead of putting a low enchantment cap on it (which would make it just as useful for everyone, and not overpowered for some and terrible for others).

yeah I'm utterly disappointed in the move.. just ignore maintained enchantments or just cap # of enchantments used (4?) would been OK IMO..

But if you have to nerf go 1..3 energy OR go down to 7 seconds - not both! :b with all skills taking a skill point and a PLAT each I would un-cap if I could.

heres my view on it... if u wanna solo use renewal... if you wanna heal use prodigy... they both are extremely strong elites for energy management.. ive fallen in love with renewal again since sliver armor came out...

Well i can't think of a good use of this now. They just nerfed it to the obliviom. Gee Arena net do not destroy skill, just tune it down a bit. Fragilty is good example - it is not overpowered anymore, but still a lot usable in heavy condition builds.
Bring back some of its power (like you did with Tap and Drain)! Pople WONT take it even if it is not elite.

In a recent interview, Izzy admitted that they overdid it with Renewel and made it useless, and says they are trying now not to ruin the skills they nerf.

ITs still funny reading this thread, where it goes from "ZOMG THE BEST ELITE EVER" to "I wish I could get my Cap Sig Back.."