How do you change classes in combat?

Soldier45

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

How do you change your class while in combat?

Is this a quest or something?

I read that you can change your secondary class later in the game, but last night in the arena I was seeing my opponents primary class changing while I was fighting them. The fight did not last long though because he killed us all, but I was just wondering how to do this.

He was wearing warrior armor and was a warrior monk but then he changed his class to a necro monk and then a mesmer monk! I thought it was cool that a necro and mesmer could wear the warrior armor though!!!

Anyway where do I get the quest to be able to do this, is it ascension quest?

iRuN

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

You must have been seeing things. You can't change your primary job ever unless you start a new character. You can change you secondary job after asencion but you have to do a quest for it each time you want to change, so him switching isnt possible.

Soldier45

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by iRuN
You must have been seeing things. You can't change your primary job ever unless you start a new character. You can change you secondary job after asencion but you have to do a quest for it each time you want to change, so him switching isnt possible.
Hmm, well I am sure I was not seeing things because the text that says his class type on my target bar was changin several times!

Also the icon that shows up when he casts spells would show him casting spells from the class his primary job changed to, thats why I want to know how to do this because I want to be able to cast monk, necro and mesmer skills at the same time to be able to own people like that guy last night.!

Dragon X

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

canada

The Chocolate Factory

R/Mo

sounds weird. maybe someone should check this out?...
i dont think its possible...but i really have no idea about whats totally possible in this game yet...
soo
...yeah..
o.O

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

ODDLY, this isnt the first time i've seen a post of this nature. Both of those threads were locked. If anyone else sees this I certainly recommend getting a couple of screenshots of it. The only guess I have is that theres some cheat program or bot thats started going around.

Dragon X

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

canada

The Chocolate Factory

R/Mo

yeah thats what i was thinking....that stinks...why dont people play games ligit...bots and stuff like that suck...i know people who bot on like RO and like Lineage 2 sure they can all get banned but theres so many itd be hard to ban them all...so yeah...

Soldier45

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madjik
ODDLY, this isnt the first time i've seen a post of this nature. Both of those threads were locked. If anyone else sees this I certainly recommend getting a couple of screenshots of this. My only guess I have is that theres some cheat program or bot thats started going around.

Hmm?!?! Hacks? That sux because I thought that we could change out all our classes when we were bored with a particular build, is that just secondary class?

I hope it is not hacks, anyone able to tell NC SOFT or ARENA NET about this? THey have to stop it if these are hacks!

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Dont blow it outta proportion now, its not hacks or bots FOR SURE, i cant say with any reason certainly thats whats up doc. Someone else already made a bug report to a.net about it i belive. From what I understand, theres a quest late in the game that will allow you to change your secondary class, and only once.

Changing any class in the middle of combat should be impossible. If you witnessed this i'd recommend reporting it (note the name of the character responsible for the act) even though someone else already did, the more letters or reports anet gets about a certain occurance the more likely they are to look into it. Once you've reported it forget about it and go on back to playing the game, if you witness it again take a couple screenies for us and pop it on the boards. A.net pays people to browse the fansite forums and chances are if this is regular enough they'll notice it.

sybban

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Beaufort Fun Park

I don't remember the guild name

Mo/W

maybe it's just a glitch where you switch targets and the name stays the same in certain combat situations. Are you using tab to switch targets or is it changing by itself?

Soldier45

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by sybban
maybe it's just a glitch where you switch targets and the name stays the same in certain combat situations. Are you using tab to switch targets or is it changing by itself?
Not switching targets at all. Matter of fact this was the only girl I was fighting the whole round, I would see the white text on the red health bar of my target totally change from like W/Mo to N/Mo and M/Mo or whatever the initals are, I maybe mistaken, but I am not mistaken about the text changing because when they changed PRIMARY class they woudl then cast spells to match thier change.

Thats why I thought maybe ascended character or something can change class, dunno myself but others are saying hacks or bots or something. I dont know the name of the person I was mostly looking at the classes changing, didnt think at the time this was hack so I didnt pay attention to the name, but it was not a normal name it was many words, thats about all I remember.

Adacia Calla

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Halls.

[FREE]

W/R

After ascension there is a quest to change your secondary.

sybban

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Beaufort Fun Park

I don't remember the guild name

Mo/W

ya but not mid combat heh. I still sounds like a glitch, where you were just monitoring others abilities. If it is a hack then that's pretty crappy. I have no problem with simple exploits and bugs that don't hurt anybody, but the ability to change your job on the fly just kind of ruins the experience

Virtuoso

Virtuoso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Yea, unless this is the same guy under a new account this isn't the first time we've seen this post. I for one will be keeping my eyes open and when I have time I might check around the web to see if I can find anything. Very interesting.

-Virt

xanupox

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

I didn't even have to read his whole post to know what happened. Same thing that I saw in the Arena, the person you saw doing it didn't happen to be named "Jenny Chop Ur Legs" did it?

The only difference with what this guy says and what I saw, was when I experienced the hacker they only changed thier class once. You said Necro/Warrior/Mesmer and /Monk.

So they can change it more than once? Nice, the hack is even worse than I orginally imagined. I had been theorizing on a possible way that it happens via a bug or something, but since there is 3 classes changing on the primary class that throws my idea out the window.

Just hope NC/Anet can put a plug in this before its too late.

SecUnder

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego CA

Eternity Lost and Found

A/

i think what is happening is the person is a mersmer (i think). mersmers have a spell- arcane mimicry or something of that nature- that allows them to steal another players spells and cast them as their own. being able to change a class while in game would require a lot of work, as its not just the profession, but the skill set, attribute points, etc etc. a hack program of this calibur would require multiple packets being changed on the fly, while bypassing such things as refund points and the basic lockout on the 8 skills on the skillbar.

iRuN

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by SecUnder
i think what is happening is the person is a mersmer (i think). mersmers have a spell- arcane mimicry or something of that nature- that allows them to steal another players spells and cast them as their own. being able to change a class while in game would require a lot of work, as its not just the profession, but the skill set, attribute points, etc etc. a hack program of this calibur would require multiple packets being changed on the fly, while bypassing such things as refund points and the basic lockout on the 8 skills on the skillbar.
He said in his first post he was fighting a w/mo wearing warrior gear.

SecUnder

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego CA

Eternity Lost and Found

A/

yes, but a w/mo may have been easily confused with a w/me.

ritek

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

omg no way. I thought i saw something like this a week ago. I colda swore i saw a w/mo at the start of the round then mo/r wearing platemail. he was also using warrior moves such as final thrust along with ranger and monk healing skils of course. I believe there could be a hack or easily obtained bug condition where you could do that. Mostly likly a hack program.

Dagbiker

Dagbiker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Maryland

if it happens at all again, i say we start taking names, and posting them, or at the least asking how there doing it.

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dagbiker
if it happens at all again, i say we start taking names, and posting them, or at the least asking how there doing it.
Posting names is pointless, since someone might be looking to make trouble with someone else. As I said before, for every one who see this takeing place, report it with a.net. Make them aware of it. It's POSSIBLE that its a cheat program or some such thing, but then it might be somthing diffrent, there's no way to know for certain. Since everything is serverside, it'd be very difficult for anything outside of a bot. I looked at the other forums and didnt come up with much as far as other instances of this occuring.

Once again, if this is happening to you just plain report it to a.net. Thats the best thing you can do. The more reports they recieve, the quicker they'll be able to determin its not user error or a false report.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

Hmmmm... This all seems suspicious, I wonder if someone is posting under more than just two names here... ...

Same conditions as before, no screenshots, no credibility, just hearsay...

If this truly is happening, someone had better damn well get screenshots or I feel anymore topics on this same elusive W/Mo/Me/N, whatever, will be instantly closed by the boards.

Soldier45

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

No screen shots because I didnt think this was hacks. I figured it was some ability with ascension, but that does not seem to be the case. If I see it again though, I will def get some screens!!

Phantium

Phantium

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Europe United [EU]

W/Mo

Record it with fraps and put it online instead.

Vynn

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

According to a german forum there is a hack out which allows you to change class and skills during play.

The post I'm referring to on that site was posted yesterday, so the person might just have made an assumption based upon what he read here.. or he might not :-/

Difficult to tell.

Soldier45

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

link me to that german site please

Vynn

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

I won't link to it, as it is a hacksite.

Cymmina

Cymmina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Me/N

I've once had it where I changed secondaries (post ascending) and *still* had some of the skills of the secondary I switched from. I thought it was just wierd, but since the skills I kept weren't really useful for me (Me/Mo kept a few warrior skills), I didn't really care. They *did* disappear once I zoned, though.

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vynn
I won't link to it, as it is a hacksite.
Thanks for not linking it. Last thing I want to see is a massive influx of cheating, especially if said cheat works.

Mariena Feladon

Mariena Feladon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Netherlands

Silhouette Stars [sil]

Mo/N

Instead, send the link to A.net or something. It might be useful for them.

Gauwyn Vorec

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

The Warriors of Wyvern

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adacia Calla
After ascension there is a quest to change your secondary.
Where is the quest? Everyone says there's one but never says where it is.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

Probably fake. Since most of the things are held serverside, I think, it would take alot more than a simple program to actually change the data for class choice. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not a programmer or dev, so I have no idea, but it seems to me everything on GW is mostly kept serverside aside from basic map data...

The three places are Seekers [Something I can't remember], Heroes Audience and Destiny Gorge for secondary changing, Now what I want to know is will you get all of your secondary skills back that you lose if you change back to what you were originally? I wouldn't mind trying some other things out, but I fear losing all of my skills that I worked so hard to get... at least permanantly.

Joysze

Joysze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Once you've switched secondaries, all your skills will be unlocked and you can switch back and forth. All it requires is going to the NPC and selecting the "Switch Secondary" option.

Gauwyn Vorec

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

The Warriors of Wyvern

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joysze
Once you've switched secondaries, all your skills will be unlocked and you can switch back and forth. All it requires is going to the NPC and selecting the "Switch Secondary" option.
WHERE?! lol

Soldier45

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Has anyone else saw anything like this over the last two days? I heard that ANet banned a few accounts that were confirmed to be using this type of hack.

I have not noticed any major streaming client patch though, so maybe it was a serverside vulnerabilty that they patched internally?

Well, can anyone confirm either way?