I think that whenever you are in a city you should be able to click on any player, and right next to the trade button see another button that says "Duel".
Upon clicking this button, a msg will be sent to the target player saying something along the lines of "Kyraith has challenged you to a duel. Do you accept? (yes/no buttons)"
If the other player accepts the duel you will both be zoned into a "dueling zone" kinda like the sparring room in The Matrix. (I think it would be cool if the gfx of the zone were chosen at random, mabey 1 time you duel near a waterfall, and another time you duel in a forest clearing, and yet another time you duel in a bloody pit) The zone would simply be a medium sized open space with invisable walls inclosing it in a circle.
After the duel a button would pop up saying "Rematch?" If both players chose yes, then they go another round, if no, then both players are taken back to the city district they just left.
I know 1v1 dueling isnt fair because of the rock paper scissors aspect of this game. But it would be a great way to test out a build or just pass time while waiting on a friend.
Let me know your thoughts.
PvP Duels
Kyraith Mentara
Kiwi
No, there is no strategy implemented in 1v1. It's even less then the Gladiator Arena.
Trexton
Kiwi, your right however do you ALWAYS crave strategy? I know I don't. I have a few RL friends that play Guildwars and i can say- they talk a lot of trash and there would be nothing more pleasing than to stomp them in a 1v1 arena. I cannot tell how how many times i have tried to coordinate getting into the arena match with friends/guildmates just to 1v1 them off to the side. Not everything has to be implemented into the lore/stratics of the game. Have some fun! 
William of Orange
I voted yes, but I realized after the fact that there would be a problem with that. Anybody who was a Monk, had a Monk secondary, or had any sort of healing spell to compliment their normal abilities would just be able to heal anytime they wanted to, and there would never be any winner. I don't know about you, but I would not want to be involved in a fight just to see who just walks away from the game first because of frustration. If you could restrict peoples healing abilities somehow, then the idea would be good and you wouldn't have to worry about that little problem.
worthless
even though it goes against the idea of the game... id still be fun, nothing wrong with that 
Kiwi
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Kiwi, your right however do you ALWAYS crave strategy? I know I don't. I have a few RL friends that play Guildwars and i can say- they talk a lot of trash and there would be nothing more pleasing than to stomp them in a 1v1 arena. I cannot tell how how many times i have tried to coordinate getting into the arena match with friends/guildmates just to 1v1 them off to the side. Not everything has to be implemented into the lore/stratics of the game. Have some fun!
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AND VOTE "NO" PEOPLE!!!
Kyraith Mentara
Trexton has the gist of it, its not about fairness of it, I know in WoW I would sit and watch palladins duel for 30 minutes against each other. I think it would just be fun to say, hey I got this new skill I want to try out, let me test it on you. Or even damn whats taking that guy so long, lets duel while we wait.
Vermilion Okeanos
go ahead and have some 1vs1... I will wait here till you come back and tell me the game is totally unbalanced.
Kha
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As for the fun, sure a lot of people would find it fun. I doubt I would, but that doesn't mean I'm going to say "no" to the idea. If this is what the majority of the community wants, then hopefully it's something they will look into. But the game is Guild Wars, which comes across to me as more referring to multi-playing PvP like they have. I rather them focus on adding new maps and games for this than waste time and resources on 1v1 stuff.
Kyraith Mentara
They system is already in there with the arenas programing, the onlyn thing they would have to bother with is making a quick map for dueling, but even there the could copy art from somewhere else in the land, like say the statue of greneth in catacombs, and just put collision barriers around it
not much wasted resourse right there
not much wasted resourse right there
Scaper-X
I really don't see why this shouldn't be added, hence my voting "yes".
However, the game really is geared more for group efforts, so it might not be a priority to create such an arena.
-- Scaper-X
However, the game really is geared more for group efforts, so it might not be a priority to create such an arena.
-- Scaper-X
Trexton
Vote "yes" On Proposition 1!!!
Bobangry
I would use such an option for testing, nothing more. While it would be fun for awhile to take my warrior into a 1v1 arena and slaughter helpless mesmers and necros, it wouldn't get me that "rush" that GvG or Tombs does.
I want to be able to pick my opponent so I can test my skills vs a certain armor level/character and whatnot.
The only way I can see a 1v1 random arena working is if it is not random, but instead you agree to fight a person. Otherwise you end up with healing monks fighting healing monks and we all know how that ends...it doesn't.
I'd vote but I don't think there are enough options. So my vote is more of a "Yes, but..."
I want to be able to pick my opponent so I can test my skills vs a certain armor level/character and whatnot.
The only way I can see a 1v1 random arena working is if it is not random, but instead you agree to fight a person. Otherwise you end up with healing monks fighting healing monks and we all know how that ends...it doesn't.
I'd vote but I don't think there are enough options. So my vote is more of a "Yes, but..."
OMGitsCracker
I voted yes, I think it would be a cool way to pass the time and finally see whos build can beat whos. I duno why any one would vote no... its not like where gona force you to play it.
Kiwi
Guys time is not a big deal, you can instant travel. Remember?
Loviatar
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I voted yes, I think it would be a cool way to pass the time and finally see whos build can beat whos. I duno why any one would vote no... its not like where gona force you to play it.
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and the taunts of chicken if refused
forget it
they left it out for a reason
Kiwi
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for one thing it would be one more incessent noise level in any place where people get together
and the taunts of chicken if refused forget it they left it out for a reason |
Kyraith Mentara
Yea man, but say your haging out at your guild and you got a GvG battle comming up in say 10 mins...you can practice your skills sets and decide what set your gonna go with, just pass the time in friendly competition with your guildmates, theres so much that it offers, and if you feel it takes away so much from your game...you can always click no when ever someone challenges you. but I have a feeling even those voting no now, if it goes in game, will find themselves dueling their close friends at some point or another for a lil fun.
Even if its in game, you dont have to use it...
But if its not in game those who do want to use it cant...thats no good.
As to taunts, never had a problem with it. Every game I ever played, dueling was friendly, and when you lose you say, wow nice move, what was that combo you used right there? ohh really thats an awesome idea man, well done...
Not "OMG Haxors i Fin hate you 1337 @$$"
Even if its in game, you dont have to use it...
But if its not in game those who do want to use it cant...thats no good.
As to taunts, never had a problem with it. Every game I ever played, dueling was friendly, and when you lose you say, wow nice move, what was that combo you used right there? ohh really thats an awesome idea man, well done...
Not "OMG Haxors i Fin hate you 1337 @$$"
Kiwi
I'm sorry, but I'd rather roleplay. It just doesn't interest me to see if I have better skills then my oponent.
Eejit
I've read the arguments for and against, and I very much understand those against it, but I'd still like to duel people for fun every now and then. It'd be fun.
Kyraith Mentara
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I'm sorry, but I'd rather roleplay. It just doesn't interest me to see if I have better skills then my oponent.
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Sure some people will take it that way...Ignore them, you dont have to duel them.
I myself want to be able to duel becuase in other games their have been so many times when my friends and I will just sit there testing things out or just fighting back and forth because were to lazy to go do a mission or we dont have enough time. I think it would offer another demision to the game for many people.
Loviatar
if you think the selling spam is bad just add in the challenge spam and turn of the chat interface altogether
Kiwi
There are so many more better things you could be doing then 1v1. It just doesn't make sense why you should do it.
BlackArrow
There may be better things, but what if someone people think that 1v1 is the better thing? Does it hurt you in any way if it's in the game Kiwi?
Personnaly I would like to use it some, but it wouldn't be a substitute in anyways for GvG, tombs, or even Galdiator's Arena.
Personnaly I would like to use it some, but it wouldn't be a substitute in anyways for GvG, tombs, or even Galdiator's Arena.
LoneDust
a vote for "NO" is a vote for "just let the devs finish making the game and iron out all the bugs already!"
whiskas
Yes definately, it would likely be used more for testing builds rather than serious dueling, some of us have builds that are geared towards destroying a certain profession and this would be a great way to test it, get someone in your guild to duel with and it allows them to give you feedback about your build. And for serious duels, a 1v1 with W/Mo or Mesmer vs Mesmer battle would be great to do.
The option of dueling with henchies could be added in as well, they automatically accept any duels and the AI could pretty much be the same as it is now.
No rewards would be given for winning, for obvious reasons.
The option of dueling with henchies could be added in as well, they automatically accept any duels and the AI could pretty much be the same as it is now.
No rewards would be given for winning, for obvious reasons.
Kiwi
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There may be better things, but what if someone people think that 1v1 is the better thing? Does it hurt you in any way if it's in the game Kiwi?
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And anyways, the devs should focus on more important things. Like fixing chat.
BlackArrow
You make a good point Kiwi, but if they contain it in a designated duel area than the spam would only be there.
Kiwi
I still think people would spam in cities. Because I think very few people would use 1v1 anyways, so they'd spam in cities where there are more people.
Fix the chat, then I'm OK with it. Otherwise, it's a big no no.
Fix the chat, then I'm OK with it. Otherwise, it's a big no no.
Kyraith Mentara
That works to Black Arrow, as long as you can challenge duels at your guild hall as well
Lansing Kai Don
1vs1 Duels should be supported in my opinion. It is an honorable match up.. heck guild leader could even 1v1 for pink slips to their guild halls 
that's a joke. But it would open a whole new avenue of gameplay without making a serious change to the game itself.
Lansing Kai Don
that's a joke. But it would open a whole new avenue of gameplay without making a serious change to the game itself.Lansing Kai Don
Kiwi
Well no matter, I want to see other things like DP gone from pets, fixed chat, smarter npcs, being able to tame bulls and making the Arena better.
Halfy
The spam issue is a concern, yet I think that you can't get away from it. You get spammed for joining groups, trading goods, general posts etc. Its a part of GW life it seems. I personally think it would be fun to challenge fellow guild mates. Perhaps this function is best left accessible in the guild hall, to avoid the spam problem.
Call it mutual consent.
Call it mutual consent.
Kiwi
I think a good way to fight your guild would be having practice guild fights again'st your members, and/or bein able to choose who you fight in Gladiators Arena.
Kha
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I think a good way to fight your guild would be having practice guild fights again'st your members, and/or bein able to choose who you fight in Gladiators Arena.
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Lunarhound
The one thing that both players and developers would need to keep in mind if a dueling system were implemented, is that the game is not balanced for it and isn't meant to be. In other words, complaining that your character is underpowered in 1v1 is not legitimate grounds for a buff to your profession or a nerf to another one. It's there for fun and screwing around. Nothing more.
Other than this, I see absolutely no reason not to add it. Whether everyone would use it or not doesn't matter. Those who don't like it, don't have to take advantage of it. Most of the arguments against it (spam, balance, etc.) seem, to me, to be pretty weak.
I'd do it by simply allowing people to challenge others to duels when not in town. If you want to fight, form a party and step outside. There could be an "allow duels" toggle, so that you wouldn't recieve challenges if you found them annoying.
Seriously, people, if you don't want to duel other players then you don't have to. But just because you wouldn't use something is not a reason to leave it out of the game. I doubt I'd ever touch a duel, myself, but from what I've seen, a hell of a lot of people want the option. It's a minor feature, it hasn't destroyed any major commercial titles yet, and it won't destroy this one. The argument that the devs should work on something "more important" is asinine. What's important varies from person to person, and there are a lot of different tastes among those in the GW community. When someone says "they should be working on something more important" what they really mean is, "they should be working on something that I like better."
Other than this, I see absolutely no reason not to add it. Whether everyone would use it or not doesn't matter. Those who don't like it, don't have to take advantage of it. Most of the arguments against it (spam, balance, etc.) seem, to me, to be pretty weak.
I'd do it by simply allowing people to challenge others to duels when not in town. If you want to fight, form a party and step outside. There could be an "allow duels" toggle, so that you wouldn't recieve challenges if you found them annoying.
Seriously, people, if you don't want to duel other players then you don't have to. But just because you wouldn't use something is not a reason to leave it out of the game. I doubt I'd ever touch a duel, myself, but from what I've seen, a hell of a lot of people want the option. It's a minor feature, it hasn't destroyed any major commercial titles yet, and it won't destroy this one. The argument that the devs should work on something "more important" is asinine. What's important varies from person to person, and there are a lot of different tastes among those in the GW community. When someone says "they should be working on something more important" what they really mean is, "they should be working on something that I like better."
Scaper-X
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a vote for "NO" is a vote for "just let the devs finish making the game and iron out all the bugs already!"
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However, what about /after/ gamelaunch?
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Freyas
I could see this being useful for testing certain combos and such- like does life bond trigger balthazar's spirit and stuff like that, but I don't see how it would generally be all that fun. Skills aren't anywhere near balanced 1vs1- in all actuality, a well-built mesmer would win every battle. I guess it could be an okay addition for people who really want to have it, but I'd prefer that the developers spent their time working on more content for the game rather than overly unbalanced play types.... skills are unbalanced in the 4vs4 arena, horribly unbalanced in 2vs2(very old arena setup), and unbelievably so for 1vs1.
Lunarhound
The fact that it's not balanced doesn't matter one bit. A lot of people want it, and it would probably be relatively simple to implement, so give it to them. I really don't understand why just having something like this in the game bothers so many people. It doesn't have to affect you. You don't have to use it.
cce
Yes, but not for the obvious reason -- yes for training. When you have a guild, you want to see how the applicant responds under pressure. The Tombs is too messy to properly evaluate someone, and PvE isn't exactly high-pressure. Alot of times in GvG you are one-on-one, so this allows you to do some nice praticing; for example, see how long it takes for your newly-built warrior to clean-out a healer.