Anet Keeps on destroying

Cell Undertaker

Cell Undertaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

The Malevolent Wolfpack

Anet Anet Anet... What to say.

Keep on nerfing the good things about the game.....

This is a thread where i was waiting for.
Here you can posts all the things that Anet nerfes, Mostly the things that u'd like to do.

for example: First they nerfed the "oh so popular" IWAY.

Here's what Ruïned my business:

I have a running character which i run with from Ascalon city (or beacons Perch) to the desert. I made a lot of money with it. The way to run it was running the Sanctum cay mission.
When u got to the place he summoned the boat it was easy, you just went to the top of the hill next to him and no enemy groups would attack The Vizier.
Now: Anet nerfed it, when u are on the hill or not it doesnt matter. Enemy groups will encounter the vizier from all directions which makes this almost impossible to run. However i'm not saying it's imposible to run the sanctum Cay mission if u are able to heal the vizier AND yourself big time.

Well this was the thing that Ruïned one of my biggest "Moneymakers"

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

I've ran it a number of times since the changes now, with no problems. So they've turned an easy run into a moderately challenging one - works for me, prices rise, those who are skilled enough to do it get the reward.

Urias Skult

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Australia

You made money from it, consider yourself thankful for that.

Try playing the game as a Necromancer or Elementalist and having almost no means of feasable solo income.

I dont know what you are complaining about to be honest.

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

oh no, they fixed what amounted to a bug in the way the AI behaved. How dare they!

Seriously, get over it.

Soul Shaker

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cell Undertaker
Anet Anet Anet... What to say.

Keep on nerfing the good things about the game.....

This is a thread where i was waiting for.
Here you can posts all the things that Anet nerfes, Mostly the things that u'd like to do.

for example: First they nerfed the "oh so popular" IWAY.

Here's what Ruïned my business:

I have a running character which i run with from Ascalon city (or beacons Perch) to the desert. I made a lot of money with it. The way to run it was running the Sanctum cay mission.
When u got to the place he summoned the boat it was easy, you just went to the top of the hill next to him and no enemy groups would attack The Vizier.
Now: Anet nerfed it, when u are on the hill or not it doesnt matter. Enemy groups will encounter the vizier from all directions which makes this almost impossible to run. However i'm not saying it's imposible to run the sanctum Cay mission if u are able to heal the vizier AND yourself big time.

Well this was the thing that Ruïned one of my biggest "Moneymakers"
Technically it was a bug, so stop yer whining.

And to the poster above me, eles have little to no chance, necros have MM. I mean the poster 2 above me...someone beat me to post

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cell Undertaker
Anet Anet Anet... What to say.

Keep on nerfing the good things about the game.....
Being able to run a mission and complete the final part by exploiting a bug in the mission design is a good thing?

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Shaker
Technically it was a bug, so stop yer whining.

And to the poster above me, eles have little to no chance, necros have MM.
Necros have solo UW and FOW!

marfarn

marfarn

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/Me

Sanctum Cay can be done solo without even having the need to heal the Vezir.. just stand correctly. some screenies here

That was on my 2nd try after the change.. instead of leaving the pc for a few minutes while waiting for the boat to splash around, spam dolyak and signet. not much of a challenge unless you get the mesmer boss in the end which makes things a tad more difficult.

Whining about Nerfs? The only that still irks me is the Monster-AI AoE Patch. It just makes things too hectic.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cell Undertaker
Here's what Ruïned my business:

I have a running character which i run with from Ascalon city (or beacons Perch) to the desert. I made a lot of money with it. The way to run it was running the Sanctum cay mission.
You've seriously, actually, for real, honest to god, come here to complain that ANET FIXED A BUG?!


Holy expendable exploits, Batman! Get a grip!

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cell Undertaker
Anet Anet Anet... What to say.

Keep on nerfing the good things about the game.....

This is a thread where i was waiting for.
Here you can posts all the things that Anet nerfes, Mostly the things that u'd like to do.

for example: First they nerfed the "oh so popular" IWAY.

Here's what Ruïned my business:

I have a running character which i run with from Ascalon city (or beacons Perch) to the desert. I made a lot of money with it. The way to run it was running the Sanctum cay mission.
When u got to the place he summoned the boat it was easy, you just went to the top of the hill next to him and no enemy groups would attack The Vizier.
Now: Anet nerfed it, when u are on the hill or not it doesnt matter. Enemy groups will encounter the vizier from all directions which makes this almost impossible to run. However i'm not saying it's imposible to run the sanctum Cay mission if u are able to heal the vizier AND yourself big time.

Well this was the thing that Ruïned one of my biggest "Moneymakers"
IWAY is still playable if you actually think and make a tweak of it.

That was a bug so ya theres absolutely no reason to get mad at it.

Your sounding like a n00b who can't adapt right now.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cell Undertaker
Well this was the thing that Ruïned one of my biggest "Moneymakers"
How the hell did you accidentally type that?

Foppe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

COLD, Cold Snap

ZOMG THEY NERFED IWAY NO!!!!11!!

Ah man please RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off making threads like this, Anet doesnt ruin the fun in the game, guys like u do!

Battle Torn

Battle Torn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scotland

W/Mo

attack of the self righteous flamers...ILMAO sorry dude dont you know there are no nerfs in GuildWars, only fixes?

Fixes/nerfs whatever.....they suck...they suck bigtime but you are entitled to your opinion and you wont change mine either, but good luck.

I dread the day they stop Knights from being global and stacking with Rune (yes its still the same even though there is description saying non stacking...non stacking with others of the same kind but they stack together)

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Battle Torn
I dread the day they stop Knights from being global and stacking with Rune (yes its still the same even though there is description saying non stacking...non stacking with others of the same kind but they stack together)
Yeah, how dare they fix a bug that's been there since release? That would be so dumb of them. I mean, we might start seeing people with DIFFERENT WARRIOR ARMOR. That would just be RETARDED.

Stabber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Plane of Oblivion

Sigilum Sanguis [keep]

Me/W

For the first time in nearly four months IWAY groups are showing a little creativity. If this is a nerf, then I say, heartily, "more nerfs please!!!"

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

in before the lock.... ~_~

And I usually just run the first half of sanctum and then fight the second half :O! Wowww, 6 minutes longer to beat it nooo.... [if ya have any toa generated extra henchies, that is. If not, use your runnees as fodder for the enemies mwhaha]

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cell Undertaker
Here's what Ruïned my business:

I have a running character which i run with from Ascalon city (or beacons Perch) to the desert. I made a lot of money with it. The way to run it was running the Sanctum cay mission.
When u got to the place he summoned the boat it was easy, you just went to the top of the hill next to him and no enemy groups would attack The Vizier.
Now: Anet nerfed it, when u are on the hill or not it doesnt matter. Enemy groups will encounter the vizier from all directions which makes this almost impossible to run. However i'm not saying it's imposible to run the sanctum Cay mission if u are able to heal the vizier AND yourself big time.

Well this was the thing that Ruïned one of my biggest "Moneymakers"
It took all of three runs to get a new build. If oyu can't figure out, well, stick to running Ascalon to Piken. For tips.

xiv

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

sins will never vanish [NoiR]

Mo/Me

o they even nerfed the droks run because lit helm is used in it well they decreased the use of it by making is 20% instead of 33% not to mention they nerfed skills for energy denial. ranger spike. well every build except for necro spike and obisian spike so now u only see those and balance so yeah. and iway is still runable cause our guild runs it every week with modded iway.

Naxohs Seralna

Naxohs Seralna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Norway

House of the Silver Phoenix (HSP)

E/R

Only one sentence comes into mind:

Want some cheese with that whine?

Seriously, I'm happy that they keep fixing bugs, so that people can play through the game properly!

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

There's plenty of money to be made, and as others have said, you can still solo Sanctum. I haven't bothered with it myself, since I don't do much running.

And it's not a nerf, as has been said. The mission was fixed to work as intended. It was a bug that really should have been fixed long ago. I think what's most frustrating about these kinds of updates is that the bugs stay around for so long that everyone is used to them, then when they are fixed, people can't help but cry foul, since it almost seems it was meant to be that way.

Battle Torn

Battle Torn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scotland

W/Mo

How dare they fix Griffon Farming..I only made 4mil from that!..... now what am I going to do i have children to feed.....they mainly eat ectos and shards however lol

Moa Bird Cultist

Moa Bird Cultist

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hastings (UK) / Latham (USA)

Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]

E/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urias Skult
You made money from it, consider yourself thankful for that.

Try playing the game as a Necromancer or Elementalist and having almost no means of feasable solo income.

I dont know what you are complaining about to be honest.
Eles still have plenty of ways to make money. You just need to look outside the box, is all.

Valdaran Longfoot

Valdaran Longfoot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Colorado, US

Furious Dragons Reign [FDR]

W/

Sounds like some people have cases of "poor me".

Anet doesn't nerf anything, just makes it harder to do or balanced.

Iway was NOT nerfed. It is BALANCED. Running is just harder now, it is not impossible.

Englishkid

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Rage Quit Incorperated

N/Mo

I get annoied when people say they want others to play the game prperly well when you've done it once and jus want high end skills or whatever from a new PvE char you don't wanan spend weeks doing something that could be run in hours what a damn wste of time anyway PvP FTW!!!111!!1

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urias Skult
Try playing the game as a Necromancer or Elementalist and having almost no means of feasable solo income.
55 Necro/55 Ele
MM Necro can farm ettins
Earth Ele can farm hydras

Thats two options for both classes. Quit whining and read the forums for help.

Battle Torn

Battle Torn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scotland

W/Mo

Quote:
Sounds like some people have cases of "poor me".

Anet doesn't nerf anything, just makes it harder to do or balanced.

Iway was NOT nerfed. It is BALANCED. Running is just harder now, it is not impossible.
Anet have nerfed loads because they released a game that they had to re-balance which I suppose is fair enough to be truthful. There does get to a point where all the fun is taken out of the game and I dont mean 55hp nerf etc but in other ways. Whats wrong with running for enjoyment?... or Farming...or if a certain class can do something better than others?

keep it as varied as possible and keep it fun... something that has been steadily decreasing since I started to play way back.

Eugaet

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

ANet has made it more difficult by fixing a bug. They are to be commended for that (fixing a bug), it's good customer service.

Now, here's what you (the OP) need to do. Figure out how to work through the new challenge and then, if you think it's worth it, charge more.

Adaptability is a highly-prized trait.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

They nerfed my beautiful Ether Renewal (Believe it not i used it for uber farming)
When it was longer not 7 seconds it was so good for 55 farming wthe my ele

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by KvanCetre
55 Necro/55 Ele
MM Necro can farm ettins
Earth Ele can farm hydras

Thats two options for both classes. Quit whining and read the forums for help.
He wasn't whining, he was making a counterstatement to the OP, who's situation is quite clear

Adaptability FTW... anyways, there were several buffed farming spots, go find them and get your precious plat.

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Man this is all whines and frets about nerfs. BOOHOO! Everything is not to be soloable, henchies and you, work as well. Less drops but to make more drops happen bring LESS henchies. Adequate your build to that a margin of henchies won't steal your drops but can still get good drops.

Just grab henchies FARM one area and your bound to get good drops when farmed over and over. To make "money / "gold it's called salvaging the items or selling them to the merchant or people.

frickett

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

The game isnt about making money, or running, it is about playing...standing next to the visier, is not playing. Go A-net.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

Quote:
Here's what Ruïned my business:
Aside from the spelling mistake, that's your problem. You think the GAME is a business. It's not. If you happen to make money by playing the game, good for you. But the game was not made to make you in-game gold. And the developers changed the game to reflect that.

Ghost Recon

Ghost Recon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

The only skill that shouldn't have been nerfed is Healing seed, it was much better when it lasted 20+ seconds. Don't really care about all the other nerf's.

Nerf's make the game more fun anyways, makes people think of new builds and how to adapt old builds to counter new builds.
The IWAY nerf was perfect making the build still useable but also makes it that IWAY isn't the only build you see in HoH (I never minded fighting IWAY it just got very very repetitive)

EDIT: Also i'm glad they nerfed Santum Cay anyways, it was stupid that you could just stand there and complete the mission while 2 foe's attack you.

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

I think he's been flamed enough, eh?

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cell Undertaker
Anet Anet Anet... What to say.

Keep on nerfing the good things about the game.....

This is a thread where i was waiting for.
Here you can posts all the things that Anet nerfes, Mostly the things that u'd like to do.

for example: First they nerfed the "oh so popular" IWAY.

Here's what Ruïned my business:

I have a running character which i run with from Ascalon city (or beacons Perch) to the desert. I made a lot of money with it. The way to run it was running the Sanctum cay mission.
When u got to the place he summoned the boat it was easy, you just went to the top of the hill next to him and no enemy groups would attack The Vizier.
Now: Anet nerfed it, when u are on the hill or not it doesnt matter. Enemy groups will encounter the vizier from all directions which makes this almost impossible to run. However i'm not saying it's imposible to run the sanctum Cay mission if u are able to heal the vizier AND yourself big time.

Well this was the thing that Ruïned one of my biggest "Moneymakers"
Poor Vizier, watching him getting destoryed by the army of white mantle make me smile!

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cell Undertaker
Here's what Ruïned my business
...
Well this was the thing that Ruïned one of my biggest "Moneymakers"
well at least he's honest...

Sirkaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

London/Uk

The Lost Saracens

E/Mo

The way im making money is selling and buying low items for good cash i just made 50k selling my rockmolder 20/20 40k and victo's blade for 10k and im a Ele belive it or not and now people are starting to want nuckers more for farming as they are usefull for knocking down etc but its a pain when Anet stops us from making money for our dreams like fow armor and less drops but do as i said buy low sell high and even if you make a little profit its worth it


And Shiver peek chest hunting is very good got my perfect Cane from a chest thats 120k+ vaule

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

W/

Anet has yet to make a change I didnt like. (unless you count NOT changing lame-weak skills in the balance updates)

Ninetail Trickster

Ninetail Trickster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

A pleasant place that needs more rain. T_T

The Rose Society

If I can propose a way around the nerfs?
...if worse comes to worse, start over. (This is intended as a suggestion, not a flame... I'm bad at flaming. )
I'm not very far through the game (I got past Yak's on my first attempt through, months ago; I've started over and am catching up) and consequently, I'm relearning how the game works.
Whenever I come across a 'nerfed' skill, I just learn to use it. It's all the same to me; sure, I used it before, but I'm learning it again.
Nerfing or balancing may not be appreciated, and I can understand that, but if you just take it easy and think things through a bit, maybe you can come up with a more effective method for making money?
[/rant(attempted.sensibility)]

Sirkaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

London/Uk

The Lost Saracens

E/Mo

Chest hunting is the best way of making money more chance's of getting good items but more chance's of getting rubbish wands but i was lucky! i got a 120k+ wand( im boasting lol)