How do you keep members in your guild?

Ravenglass

Ravenglass

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

I have been running a guild with some friends since the release of the game. We have 4 core members (plus some others that have stayed but don't play often) - which is great, but we have been trying to build our guild, so we can do some GvG and PvP and help others on quests and missions for fun.

We have only been inviting players that we have played with and thought would fit into our group well, and at first they seem really into it, but they all end up leaving for some reason or another, and I just can't figure it out. Some even leave the next day - right after they have joined!

We play everyday, we help with quests if they need it, it they need items or money etc. we are happy to help them out. We have a Guild Hall, Cape & a website www.dreamofeagles.com and we have a TS server set-up.

But what gives? How do you keep members in your guild, any help or tips, I think we are a good bunch and good players.

Too add if you are interested in joining our guild add me to your friends list, maybe we can play together sometime!

IGN: Ethan Ravenglass

Dzan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Black Dye Cartel

People want to GVG and tombs in guild groups. Thats the number one reason that pvp people join guilds for. If you recruit a pvp player and they find out you don't GVG and you don't Tombs how long do you expect them to stay?

Ravenglass

Ravenglass

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzan
People want to GVG and tombs in guild groups. Thats the number one reason that pvp people join guilds for. If you recruit a pvp player and they find out you don't GVG and you don't Tombs how long do you expect them to stay?
Can't say I have ever recruited a PVP only player - not once, where did you read that in the above post?

I'd like to start 'doing' some GvG & PvP, but still do PvE also...

GvG is out of the question without a Guild big enough.

Ghost Recon

Ghost Recon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

I pay my members to stay































Joke, lol ner all my guild members are good friends i have made in GW most of them i have known for about 9 months and talk to them a lot on TS, i don't want random PuG's in my guild it is just all people i know well who i let join.

DoctorEvil

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravenglass

But what gives? How do you keep members in your guild, any help or tips,......
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Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

W/

Dont recruit when asking for help...if I was in your guild...I would be leaving right now.

But really...people keep people. The bigger your guild, the more people stay.

The Lich Ranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Home

Children Of Orion

Mo/Me

Just be nice to your members, ask them if they want to GvG, dont pressure them, and definently dont take in beggars

Thom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravenglass
I have been running a guild with some friends since the release of the game. We have 4 core members (plus some others that have stayed but don't play often) - which is great, but we have been trying to build our guild, so we can do some GvG and PvP and help others on quests and missions for fun.

We have only been inviting players that we have played with and thought would fit into our group well, and at first they seem really into it, but they all end up leaving for some reason or another, and I just can't figure it out. Some even leave the next day - right after they have joined!

We play everyday, we help with quests if they need it, it they need items or money etc. we are happy to help them out. We have a Guild Hall, Cape & a website www.dreamofeagles.com and we have a TS server set-up.

But what gives? How do you keep members in your guild, any help or tips, I think we are a good bunch and good players.

Too add if you are interested in joining our guild add me to your friends list, maybe we can play together sometime!

IGN: Ethan Ravenglass
Encourage people to get on TS just to chat. That and regularly have guild activities to do. Build relationships and people will stick around.

Ravenglass

Ravenglass

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandy Memory
Dont recruit when asking for help...if I was in your guild...I would be leaving right now.

But really...people keep people. The bigger your guild, the more people stay.
Ermmm - I never have recruited when 'looking' for help, maybe you should re-read my original post. I mean it the other way around - helping other players who need help, not me. If I need help (which would only be for farming with 2 lvl 20 finished PvE's) then I have my guild members for that.

Also yes - people keep people, but people have to stay to get more people! I didn't want to build a guild by broadcasting it in towns and spamming that we are looking for recruits, it's nice to get to know these players first, I understand many people have built guilds this way - by mass recruiting and weeding out the bad from the good, maybe that's the only way to do it.

AndrewB

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Find good members...That actually want to play.

Bugeater

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

looking for a guild

Invest in your newest guild members. Help them with what they need help with, spend time with them and make sure they'll be interested in doing the same for new members in the future.

Get to know each other. Joke around on guild chat, get together on TS/Vent even if you're not in a party together. Learn their real names, where their from, or what they do for a living.

Become better players yourselves. Know the game and what does/doesn't work.

Invite one or two pick-ups into an all guild group. See if the player fits with your guild and if so don't be afraid to invite them to change guilds. Even if they don't ask if you can friendlist them and make sure to keep up with your friends.

You sound like you're doing it right, just stick to it.

Ravenglass

Ravenglass

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bugeater
Invest in your newest guild members. Help them with what they need help with, spend time with them and make sure they'll be interested in doing the same for new members in the future.

Get to know each other. Joke around on guild chat, get together on TS/Vent even if you're not in a party together. Learn their real names, where their from, or what they do for a living.

Become better players yourselves. Know the game and what does/doesn't work.

Invite one or two pick-ups into an all guild group. See if the player fits with your guild and if so don't be afraid to invite them to change guilds. Even if they don't ask if you can friendlist them and make sure to keep up with your friends.

You sound like you're doing it right, just stick to it.
Great constructive advice - I thank you

Chrono Trigger

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Duels of Fate

W/Mo

I usally try merging Guilds....Some take up on some dont....
Actually only 1,lol....a small group with a small group... and now we are a big small group

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

I threaten them with violence. Bribery works too.

Talinna

Talinna

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lions Arch Dis 4 (International)

Servants of Fortuna [SoF

Mo/N

Set a code of conduct, and stick to it. Guilds have to have values and rules to live by.

People want structure and leadership. Give them options and aske them questions.

Make your officers be active at leading.

You have members and one officer on, the officer should ask what everybody is doing, if he/she can help. If there isn't much going on suggest doing something.

"Hey want to do a SF run?" "Anybody want to come do "The Wilds" with me" or even "Hey you guys want to try out Team Areans".

You sound like a PvE guild to me, so advertise as one.

"Close nitt PvE guild looking to add a few more members to the family."

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Close-knit

Talinna

Talinna

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lions Arch Dis 4 (International)

Servants of Fortuna [SoF

Mo/N

thanks.. spelling was never my subject.

Lysander Freeman

Lysander Freeman

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Central PA, USA

Gladiators of Light in Darkness

R/E

When I was a Guild Leader for seven months (left the guild now for political reasons) I spent a *lot* of time talking to my members in forums and MSN. Even if we didn't party together they still felt appreciated and part of the group because their Guild Leader was actively involved and interested in what they were doing. In time they developed their own relationships with others in the Guild, so when more members came in and other issues needed addressed, they understood that I had other things to attend to in the interest of the Guild and they had already been 'sucked into' the guild at that point.

Just my two cents.

Billiard

Billiard

Doctor of Philosophy

Join Date: May 2005

Pacific Northwest

Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us

I spend a tremendous amount of time interacting with different folks on the forums, in chat, in game, on TS, and in messages. I honestly spend probably 4 to 5 times as much time doing this as I do playing the game anymore. People have issues they want to talk about all the time it seems, and the more people you have the more things that come up. I try to make people feel that they are important to both me and the guild. And even though people do leave, I still try to keep on good terms with them. The bottom line for us now is that while we always do have people moving on, we also have more people wanting to join. A lot of former members still recommend us to others, even if they themselves have decided to move on.

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

Just do something that connects the guild together and makes it so that everyone gets something from being in the guild.

That can be helping them with quests and missions, doing gvg, doing tombs, team farming, etc.

Kind of simple really.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

You have a TS server, this is a HUGE tool for recruiting and keeping members. My advice is pimp it... by this I mean encourage (but never force) folks to use it. Trick them into getting onto the ts server by making out of context "LOLOL" in guild chat in response to some lewd joke you and your freinds made... most folks will want to know what the joke was, you just tell em you guys are laughing your behinds off on TS. Once a player gets onto TS, and hears others voices you are people, not just that ranger guy, and that monk chick... they have a MUCH higher chance of becoming involved and sticking around. Be really clear when you recruit to point out that while its a goal to gvg/halls regularly, realistically it cant happen yet due to low headcount...and do they have any friends? Offer recruitment bonus (items I feel are best) to folks who get someone into the guild that stays -and is active-. But I think the fact that you and your friends play together AND have TS will be able to get folks, just keep trying.

Rosta Bash

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

New York

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandy Memory
Dont recruit when asking for help...if I was in your guild...I would be leaving right now.

But really...people keep people. The bigger your guild, the more people stay.
not always true, theres about 13 in mines, yet we are mostly pvp only. now if its a pve mostly guild, then yea i agree.

BrutusV

BrutusV

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Aequitas Deis [AD] http://aequitasdeis.guildportal.com

W/N

Ravenglass - looks like you're doing everything you can. I am also growing the guild I'm in with pretty much the same method and we have had a good response so far. It just takes time. And even if we take care to play with the individuals before recruiting, sometimes they will decide to leave or we find that person isn't a good fit afterall.

If you guys are interested in collaborating for Factions, check out Aequitas Deis' website and give me a shout. My IGN is "Fun N Games" and we're on the American servers

Hired Blade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Oregon USA

Leader Of (Hired Souls)

W/

As A guild Leader you need to put members needs above your own. Be nice and try not to let anyone feel ignored.