Spiritbinder bugged O_o
Sekkira
Attatchment says all.
TheMosesPHD
Yes I discovered this too a couple days ago. I guess I should send in an official bug report :P It acts like an offhand instead of a staff, which gives you the nrg and the mods whether you meet the reqs or not.
Savio
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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD
It acts like an offhand instead of a staff, which gives you the nrg and the mods whether you meet the reqs or not.
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The problem with the Spiritbinder is that it's not giving the unconditional +10 energy that it's supposed to have, in addition to the other +5 energy.
Rilder
Yea I was gonna use it as my Trapper Staff and sold my old trapper staff (well gave away) .... but it has less energy then it should >.<
Lasareth
Support's answer to this was "you need points in communing to get the energy."
Anyone else who wants to try... good luck
Anyone else who wants to try... good luck
Sekkira
Yeah I sent in a report before this thread.
Mustache Mayhem
whaa.. that does'nt make sense- maybe they'll change it on factions release
Lichtenberg
where do u find this?
Sekkira
find what?
theVariable
I believe he's referring to the item itself.
sickkk, it's a pre-order item for Factions. So you have to get a pre-order key to obtain it. Try looking at http://guildwars.com
This bug has already been discussed. As well as the bug where this staff shoots arrows while attacking (just the animation). Try looking in the Factions forum :P
sickkk, it's a pre-order item for Factions. So you have to get a pre-order key to obtain it. Try looking at http://guildwars.com
This bug has already been discussed. As well as the bug where this staff shoots arrows while attacking (just the animation). Try looking in the Factions forum :P
Metanoia
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Originally Posted by Savio
Um, no. Offhands don't give you the energy if you don't meet the requirement, as the requirement is next to the energy mod for offhands.
The problem with the Spiritbinder is that it's not giving the unconditional +10 energy that it's supposed to have, in addition to the other +5 energy. |
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TheMosesPHD
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Originally Posted by Savio
Um, no. Offhands don't give you the energy if you don't meet the requirement, as the requirement is next to the energy mod for offhands.
The problem with the Spiritbinder is that it's not giving the unconditional +10 energy that it's supposed to have, in addition to the other +5 energy. |
TheMosesPHD
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Originally Posted by Lasareth
Support's answer to this was "you need points in communing to get the energy."
Anyone else who wants to try... good luck |
Sekkira
Actually it's not acting as an offhand as in even without meeting the requirement, an offhand gives you the base energy of +3 I think. This only gives you +5 from the insightful mod.
TheMosesPHD
So then it's acting like a piece of crap 
Caelus The Fallen
It also shoots arrows o_0
Very weird....
Very weird....
Yichi
The last time Gaile Gray was in ID1 La, i tried spammign it askign why it was bugged or if they knew about it. after about an hour i gave up......
But i swear if i had one more person tellign me it was because i didnt meet the requirement i was gonna scream..... A funny thing was told to me for that, is that rangers only use staffs for trapping to get the insightful bonus, but they dont meet the req to get the +10 energy from the main weapon
But i swear if i had one more person tellign me it was because i didnt meet the requirement i was gonna scream..... A funny thing was told to me for that, is that rangers only use staffs for trapping to get the insightful bonus, but they dont meet the req to get the +10 energy from the main weapon
Yanman.be
for a staff with insightfull head , like illyana's, you should 15 energy no matter what...with the special trapper staff, you'll get 13 energy ( conditional , you need 80% hp )
so this item IS bugged
so this item IS bugged
Megla Zero
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
for a staff with insightfull head , like illyana's, you should 15 energy no matter what...with the special trapper staff, you'll get 13 energy ( conditional , you need 80% hp )
so this item IS bugged |
Epinephrine
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Originally Posted by Lasareth
Support's answer to this was "you need points in communing to get the energy."
Anyone else who wants to try... good luck |
Sekkira
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Subject Faction's Preorder item: The Spiritbinder Discussion Thread Response (GM Moggie) 03/17/2006 10:32 AM Hello, Thanks for contacting the Guild Wars Support Team. We appreciate you taking the time to submit your report. Our development team is aware of the issue you described. While at this time we do not have a specific time frame for a fix to this issue, our team is investigating possible solutions. You may wish to periodically check http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html for the latest update notes. It is important to note that we are unable to replace or restore lost items, characters, or experience. Thankfully, instances of such loss are extremely rare, but in any case, we cannot perform any sort of restoration. We apologize for the inconvenience, but appreciate everything you've done to help us solve this issue. Regards, The Guild Wars Support Team |
Manic Smile
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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD
Yes I discovered this too a couple days ago. I guess I should send in an official bug report :P It acts like an offhand instead of a staff, which gives you the nrg and the mods whether you meet the reqs or not.
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offhands at max have:
+12 energy (stat requirement)
staves at max have:
11-22 dmg (stat requirement).
So...I'm puzzeled as to A.nets response, are they planing to have staves energy and dmg both be dependant on stats? Staves lose out to begin with, 15 max energy vs 17 max energy for a wand/offhand combo...this would make the imbalance worse. Yet, it would make sense in a way as wands have stat effected dmg and offhands have stat effected energy...but then why would you ever use a staff now unless you had nothing better or liked the skin, where as before staves were useful in some situations like with ranger trapping or one really nice ele staff with good universial recharge/casting mods(yea I know the second one really isn't all that useful but more so now then if they change it)...where the energy is needed but the damage doesn't matter. Seems like if they do change staves, staves should provide as much energy as a wand/offhand combo or some other differing bonus to make the choice logical instead of emotional...unless you're gonna argue staves are just the cheaper alternative. I want to be able to use a staff and know it's the most effective/efficient choice....staves just look better imo in some cases yet I find myself using all wand/offhand combos as it's 2 more energy...yea I went out of my way for gold wands but it's the potentail I'm talking about more then what any player really has. I mean how many players have perfect staves...excepting greens.
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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
Another time I was told that the disappearance of pets after cut scenes, such as in Dragon's Lair, was intended, and that the game was working normally.
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tomcruisejr
looks like its bugged.
Burton2000
Yeah bugged,shoots arrows and it also only has 1 upgrade making it pritty rubbish tbh as the daggers come fully modded.
Manic Smile
yea but it's enchanted and it allows you to add whatever mod you want to it...staff > daggers when they get it fixed
ShadowMagus
Just discovered this thread - and it is indeed true, as I learned almost immedeatly after the recent update that added the pre-order items.
My story:
I send a bug report to arena net with all needed information (excluding a screen shot)
I get a reply requesting a screen shot
I take one and send it in, along with the rest of the report
I get a reply saying the screen shot is to big (by about 100kb)
I never bother to get around to sending another report
With the report/quiz thing they ask afterwards about their service (im slightly tired right now and cant think of what it is called), I explain to them how, if they are unable to even look into this because of a lack of a screenshot small enough, they are incompetent, because the item is spawned on every character of every account with a pre-order key, and is ALWAYS the same, and they should rethink how they deal with these issues - also, on another thread, I think roughly 5 days ago, I mentioned the spiritbinder, replying to someone asking about it only giving +5 energy if I remember correctly.
I have yet to see this fixed - maby anet will acualy take action this time, if they manage to see this damn thread (I'm still not convinced they acualy read threads on fan-sites as they claim, or at least not near enough to acualy make noticable improvments to the game)
I have not noticed anything rong with the dragon fangs yet, although I am unable to test their damage and dager mastery mod right now, and havnt tried testing the poisoners grip.
Also, someone else mentioned (I think in the post mentioned above, in another thread), the spiritbinder shoots out arrows - I do not know if this is a bug, glitch, ect. or meaned to be this way (personaly I like it)
Sorry if someone mentioned this previously, I read through only about half the first page of the thread, due to bordom and fatigue
My story:
I send a bug report to arena net with all needed information (excluding a screen shot)
I get a reply requesting a screen shot
I take one and send it in, along with the rest of the report
I get a reply saying the screen shot is to big (by about 100kb)
I never bother to get around to sending another report
With the report/quiz thing they ask afterwards about their service (im slightly tired right now and cant think of what it is called), I explain to them how, if they are unable to even look into this because of a lack of a screenshot small enough, they are incompetent, because the item is spawned on every character of every account with a pre-order key, and is ALWAYS the same, and they should rethink how they deal with these issues - also, on another thread, I think roughly 5 days ago, I mentioned the spiritbinder, replying to someone asking about it only giving +5 energy if I remember correctly.
I have yet to see this fixed - maby anet will acualy take action this time, if they manage to see this damn thread (I'm still not convinced they acualy read threads on fan-sites as they claim, or at least not near enough to acualy make noticable improvments to the game)
I have not noticed anything rong with the dragon fangs yet, although I am unable to test their damage and dager mastery mod right now, and havnt tried testing the poisoners grip.
Also, someone else mentioned (I think in the post mentioned above, in another thread), the spiritbinder shoots out arrows - I do not know if this is a bug, glitch, ect. or meaned to be this way (personaly I like it)
Sorry if someone mentioned this previously, I read through only about half the first page of the thread, due to bordom and fatigue
Eclair
Does the staff work with bow skills if it shoots arrows? Could be something fun to mess around with^^
Vilaptca
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Does the staff work with bow skills if it shoots arrows? Could be something fun to mess around with^^
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Lasareth
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Does the staff work with bow skills if it shoots arrows? Could be something fun to mess around with^^
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Burton2000
Shooting the arrows is a bug as it says it does chaos or dark damage not piercing lol.
=HT=Ingram
yea there is no way to get a 9 in communing yet. so of course the preorder item will not give you the +10 +5 energy yet. Try making your domination magic 0 and see what happens... same thing...
so its not bugged.
nice try though. lol
Oh and ShadowMagus make the bug report, and the person that request the SS do a standard email to them via [email protected] Or [email protected] depending on what department it says they are from. and put attention and their name. That will get you forward to the right people... The reason the image size is so small is they want to prevent image flooding on the service pages. You can also link to the image from image-shack or any number of other services if you don't want to do it via e-mail. That's my personal recommendation. I also make use of fraps for some reports... Like when we did the Portal Bug reports back during the betas... It was useful to them to see where exactly it was happening and realign the portals on the maps to the correct corrordenates. Thats where the debugging options came in handy... cause they can see that stuff right in the video as is happens...
Typically they are very receptive to constructive and useful bug reports. as long as they are detailed in such a way to be able to reproduce the problem. The arrow graphic is something they are aware of already... I will not go into details on it, but its something they will have fixed with factions. Its simply a temporary graphic that is in place right now. heck when I first got the Preorder items added to my account and equip them. I had large blanks over the missing animations for the daggers. It was obvious they were not ready for people to start plugging them into game quite yet, but quickly fixed the problem upon reports of it happening.
so its not bugged.
nice try though. lolOh and ShadowMagus make the bug report, and the person that request the SS do a standard email to them via [email protected] Or [email protected] depending on what department it says they are from. and put attention and their name. That will get you forward to the right people... The reason the image size is so small is they want to prevent image flooding on the service pages. You can also link to the image from image-shack or any number of other services if you don't want to do it via e-mail. That's my personal recommendation. I also make use of fraps for some reports... Like when we did the Portal Bug reports back during the betas... It was useful to them to see where exactly it was happening and realign the portals on the maps to the correct corrordenates. Thats where the debugging options came in handy... cause they can see that stuff right in the video as is happens...
Typically they are very receptive to constructive and useful bug reports. as long as they are detailed in such a way to be able to reproduce the problem. The arrow graphic is something they are aware of already... I will not go into details on it, but its something they will have fixed with factions. Its simply a temporary graphic that is in place right now. heck when I first got the Preorder items added to my account and equip them. I had large blanks over the missing animations for the daggers. It was obvious they were not ready for people to start plugging them into game quite yet, but quickly fixed the problem upon reports of it happening.
xBakox
"yea there is no way to get a 9 in communing yet. so of course the preorder item will not give you the +10 +5 energy yet. Try making your domination magic 0 and see what happens... same thing...
so its not bugged. nice try though. lol"
Uhhh...staffs have always given you the +10 energy and +5 energy even w/o the req. Go try putting 0 domination with a domination staff...see what happens. Nice try though.
so its not bugged. nice try though. lol"
Uhhh...staffs have always given you the +10 energy and +5 energy even w/o the req. Go try putting 0 domination with a domination staff...see what happens. Nice try though.
Thy Shadow Wolf
Okay guys, the whole reason why it's "bugged" is because technically they're not supposed to be usable yet. I can't remember where I heard this, but that once Factions is actually released, the items will be upped to their true functionality (+15 E, instead of just the +5 from Insightful head).
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the /preorder command is *supposed* to work with the Prophecies campaign items at this time, and if you don't have an original PO item, the /preorder wouldn't work and would end up doing nothing.
So, just wait. Our precious Dream-Catchers will end up working in the near future. (1 Month and 8 days)
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the /preorder command is *supposed* to work with the Prophecies campaign items at this time, and if you don't have an original PO item, the /preorder wouldn't work and would end up doing nothing.
So, just wait. Our precious Dream-Catchers will end up working in the near future. (1 Month and 8 days)
Fate
It seems some of the people who've posted here don't quite understand the issue.
The item is:
Dark dmg: 11-22 (communing req 9)
+10 engery
halves casting time of spells (10% chance)
halves recharge (10% chance)
+5 energy
There are NO requirements on either of the energy boosts. So even without communing you should get an unconditional +15 energy, which it does not do. It only gives you +5
Anyways, it's already reported so move along, move along.
The item is:
Dark dmg: 11-22 (communing req 9)
+10 engery
halves casting time of spells (10% chance)
halves recharge (10% chance)
+5 energy
There are NO requirements on either of the energy boosts. So even without communing you should get an unconditional +15 energy, which it does not do. It only gives you +5
Anyways, it's already reported so move along, move along.
Yichi
this item will be quite nice for any new presearing caster when the 10 energy is fixed 
Sagius Truthbarron
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GW support staff are notoriously bad.
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It is appearent that the staff is bugged so that it requires a non-defined ammount of attribute points in Communion. If that is the case, the support staff is right.
Or, perhaps, its just bugged not to give energy at all.
wsmcasey
Yup, its bugged. +10 energy has always been unconditional on a staff regardless of the profession. Unless they plan on making the +10 energy conditional when factions is released, but the staff stats are unconditional at the moment. LOL, I wanted to use this staff on my trapper also before factions is released. Hopefully they will fix it prior to release.
Guardian of the Light
Yep is a bug.
Anet fixy fixy plz.
Anet fixy fixy plz.
d4nowar
If it came with a +30 fort or 20% Enchants then no one would want greenies anymore.
I've also been getting really pissed at people saying "You need communing to get the bonuses duhhhhhh." Then I ask them if they've ever played a caster before... I'm assuming if they don't fix it, then the Spiritbinder won't be a staff at all, and it will be a new item that actually is conditional. Easy way to test: Try putting staff wrappings on it (unless you can't put mods on a preorder item... If that is the case then /cry).
I've also been getting really pissed at people saying "You need communing to get the bonuses duhhhhhh." Then I ask them if they've ever played a caster before... I'm assuming if they don't fix it, then the Spiritbinder won't be a staff at all, and it will be a new item that actually is conditional. Easy way to test: Try putting staff wrappings on it (unless you can't put mods on a preorder item... If that is the case then /cry).
KamikazeChicken
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the /preorder command is *supposed* to work with the Prophecies campaign items at this time, and if you don't have an original PO item, the /preorder wouldn't work and would end up doing nothing.
So, just wait. Our precious Dream-Catchers will end up working in the near future. (1 Month and 8 days) |