Random Arena not so random?
alchohol
Call it a rant if you like....but i've noticed a pattern.
If i'm a warrior i'm lucky to get a monk in ra. Once in a blue moon it seems.
Out of frustration I build a monk. Lo and behold I have 1, 2 ,3 monks in my team whenever I enter RA.
Is this sod's law? Have I offended the gods? Or is there perhaps some type of team balancing thats become unbalanced?
If i'm a warrior i'm lucky to get a monk in ra. Once in a blue moon it seems.
Out of frustration I build a monk. Lo and behold I have 1, 2 ,3 monks in my team whenever I enter RA.
Is this sod's law? Have I offended the gods? Or is there perhaps some type of team balancing thats become unbalanced?
Diablo???
If its just once or twice, i'd say its just a freak coincidence. If 10 times in a row, then obviously RA is grouping all the monks together for no reason. lol
Yanman.be
yeah it happened to me too
i was running my essence bond monk, and there you go: a 3 monk team
i run my 55 build in CA to piss off w/mo's, and there you go: another 55'er...
so funny..
i was running my essence bond monk, and there you go: a 3 monk team
i run my 55 build in CA to piss off w/mo's, and there you go: another 55'er...
so funny..
swordfisher
I don't know about this, but I have noticed that when a player drops, they're almost always replaced by someone with the primary/secondary. So, at least when replacing a player, there is some organizing principle at work.
MSecorsky
All I've noticed is that the Asian teams are always balanced with one monk, a warrior and two others. Every freakin' time.
IKNOW
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
All I've noticed is that the Asian teams are always balanced with one monk, a warrior and two others. Every freakin' time.
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Burakus Lightwing
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
All I've noticed is that the Asian teams are always balanced with one monk, a warrior and two others. Every freakin' time.
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swordfisher
Oh yeah, that's the other thing. You can synchronize with your entrance with your buddies, and have a good chance of landing on the same team. I've never tried it myself, but I assume you do it by going to a low population district, noting the time when the next match begins, and all hitting enter at 00:00
Lasher Dragon
Man, that would really piss me off. I am glad I don't PVP. I get mad enough at the monsters I don't think I could talk my wife into replacing more keyboards hehe.
Mercury Angel
Yes, I think most monks I've met in the random arena make this observation.
Most of the matches with monks tend to have 2-3 monks on the same team, it seems.
Very typical conversation;
Monk 1 - "Wow... 3 monks... x_x"
Monk 2 - "Why is it that I only ever get monks on my team when I'm a monk?"
Monk 3 - [silent]
Monk 1 - "I don't know, I just picked a monk because I was sick of being in teams without them."
Monk 2 - "Yeah, I know what you mean lolz."
Monk 3 - [silent]
Other - "woamg, 3 monks..."
[Team wins attrition victory]
Other team's whiner - "YOU GUYS SUCK MY ----" "LAME ---- ---- WUSSES HAVE 3 ----IN MONKS."
Or something like that.
Most of the matches with monks tend to have 2-3 monks on the same team, it seems.
Very typical conversation;
Monk 1 - "Wow... 3 monks... x_x"
Monk 2 - "Why is it that I only ever get monks on my team when I'm a monk?"
Monk 3 - [silent]
Monk 1 - "I don't know, I just picked a monk because I was sick of being in teams without them."
Monk 2 - "Yeah, I know what you mean lolz."
Monk 3 - [silent]
Other - "woamg, 3 monks..."
[Team wins attrition victory]
Other team's whiner - "YOU GUYS SUCK MY ----" "LAME ---- ---- WUSSES HAVE 3 ----IN MONKS."
Or something like that.
Misa
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Originally Posted by IKNOW
Glad I'm not the only one to notice this
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Lord Iowerth
^^ Mercury's summarization was 100% right on the money, and made me laugh
<-- is either the silent monk, or the guy on the other team griping ... although it's usually just an "ahh, crap." or "you gotta be kiddin' me ..."
<-- is either the silent monk, or the guy on the other team griping ... although it's usually just an "ahh, crap." or "you gotta be kiddin' me ..."
Lowly Peasant
I'm usually that silent monk just trying to figure out if I can trick the game in to thinking my warrior is my monk so I can get one on my team for once.
sno
It's probably because ANET wants a MONK in a RA team, primary OR secondary. If theres a bunch of w/mo's, odds are there won't be a primary monk. i have noticed that when I'm monking I get put with a bunch of monks though, not sure why that is >.<. Maybe I should just start smiting all the time )
darkMishkin
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
All I've noticed is that the Asian teams are always balanced with one monk, a warrior and two others. Every freakin' time.
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Please note when you get a good team yourself. It's as easy to forget about a 20+ win streak as it is to remember a bad team.
Dzan
Its totally random. What you guys are forgetting is that the good teams keep winning. The reason you run into so many Monk, Warrior, Warrior, Necro teams is because those teams win and thus keep playing and the bad combinations are weeded out.
As far as monks who seem to "always" end up with another monk, thats because its noticable. Its just as common for there to be two monks on a random arena team as two mesmers or two warriors, it's just that when you get a two warrior team you it doesn't stick out in your mind. If you don't believe me, play in 100 different RA teams and keep track of every team and see what the statistics say.
As far as monks who seem to "always" end up with another monk, thats because its noticable. Its just as common for there to be two monks on a random arena team as two mesmers or two warriors, it's just that when you get a two warrior team you it doesn't stick out in your mind. If you don't believe me, play in 100 different RA teams and keep track of every team and see what the statistics say.
Burakus Lightwing
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Originally Posted by Dzan
Its totally random. What you guys are forgetting is that the good teams keep winning. The reason you run into so many Monk, Warrior, Warrior, Necro teams is because those teams win and thus keep playing and the bad combinations are weeded out.
As far as monks who seem to "always" end up with another monk, thats because its noticable. Its just as common for there to be two monks on a random arena team as two mesmers or two warriors, it's just that when you get a two warrior team you it doesn't stick out in your mind. If you don't believe me, play in 100 different RA teams and keep track of every team and see what the statistics say. |
seifer402
haha alcohol is your IGN L Plate or something? you were in random arena for like 3 hours today talking about this XD
ive noticed that sometimes the team aren't really random, but a lot of the time it seems ok for me.
ive noticed that sometimes the team aren't really random, but a lot of the time it seems ok for me.
Gunz Blazing Smile
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Originally Posted by Dzan
Its totally random. What you guys are forgetting is that the good teams keep winning. The reason you run into so many Monk, Warrior, Warrior, Necro teams is because those teams win and thus keep playing and the bad combinations are weeded out.
As far as monks who seem to "always" end up with another monk, thats because its noticable. Its just as common for there to be two monks on a random arena team as two mesmers or two warriors, it's just that when you get a two warrior team you it doesn't stick out in your mind. If you don't believe me, play in 100 different RA teams and keep track of every team and see what the statistics say. |
Haggard
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Originally Posted by seifer402
haha alcohol is your IGN L Plate or something? you were in random arena for like 3 hours today talking about this XD
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I beleive me and him joined forces to replace the word 'noob' with the german word for stupid, 'doof', however we gave up after 12 minutes
Arkantos
Over 50% of the time I go to RA as W/Mo, im wit 2 other warriors and a ranger or ele.
Warcheif_Jonval
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All I've noticed is that the Asian teams are always balanced with one monk, a warrior and two others. Every freakin' time. |
1) Anet has you tagged as to never get very far in the RA, so they pit you, and your unfortunte team, against a fully organized asian team in the Team Arenas instead of the random ones. (If by some freak accident, divine intervention, or power outage, you win... they will all be rezzed, replaced by superpowered AI, and will procede to virtualy rape you O_o) If this is your situation, quit random arenas. Your blood pressure, and not-smashed keyboards, will thank you.
2) like me, one event that pisses you off to the very core sticks in your mind to the point that it multiplies in your memory and instead of one single event, you remember a whole series of the same event. If this is the situation, just forget everything you know, its probobly a lie.
3) Lastly, Murphey's law hates you. If this is the case, make all negitive things that happen to you seem positive. This will confuse Murpheys law, and either good things will happen to you, or you will die in a freak leemur accident.
The Real Roy Keane
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
All I've noticed is that the Asian teams are always balanced with one monk, a warrior and two others. Every freakin' time.
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alchohol
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Originally Posted by seifer402
haha alcohol is your IGN L Plate or something? you were in random arena for like 3 hours today talking about this XD
ive noticed that sometimes the team aren't really random, but a lot of the time it seems ok for me. |
One of the reasons for the asian teams being more balanced...this might be a reason...I believe sometimes we might be playing against a TA team. I don't know if that's possible.
Anyway...this morning... I jumped into my monk outfit...joined ra...can you believe it...my first game is with another monk.
I am now certain there is pairing going on.
alchohol
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Originally Posted by Warcheif_Jonval
there are 3 logical explenations of your plight.
1) Anet has you tagged as to never get very far in the RA, so they pit you, and your unfortunte team, against a fully organized asian team in the Team Arenas instead of the random ones. (If by some freak accident, divine intervention, or power outage, you win... they will all be rezzed, replaced by superpowered AI, and will procede to virtualy rape you O_o) If this is your situation, quit random arenas. Your blood pressure, and not-smashed keyboards, will thank you. 2) like me, one event that pisses you off to the very core sticks in your mind to the point that it multiplies in your memory and instead of one single event, you remember a whole series of the same event. If this is the situation, just forget everything you know, its probobly a lie. 3) Lastly, Murphey's law hates you. If this is the case, make all negitive things that happen to you seem positive. This will confuse Murpheys law, and either good things will happen to you, or you will die in a freak leemur accident. |
I think it's a case of all three.
The asians make us die like doofs.
alchohol
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Originally Posted by Dzan
As far as monks who seem to "always" end up with another monk, thats because its noticable. Its just as common for there to be two monks on a random arena team as two mesmers or two warriors, it's just that when you get a two warrior team you it doesn't stick out in your mind. If you don't believe me, play in 100 different RA teams and keep track of every team and see what the statistics say. |
The point I'm making is if I play a warrior I rarely have a monk on my team. It does happen but not often. Play a monk and see how often another monk or two appears.
I've spent the last month or so in RA unlocking every skill etc. The pattern is noticeable.
Charqus
Monks are getting more and more frequent that wammos build in hope to get ranks....
I had it the other day...
we won loadsa battles but we all left in end cos it took like 10 mins for each win
I had it the other day...
we won loadsa battles but we all left in end cos it took like 10 mins for each win
alchohol
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Originally Posted by Charqus
Monks are getting more and more frequent that wammos build in hope to get ranks....
I had it the other day... we won loadsa battles but we all left in end cos it took like 10 mins for each win |
tekeen
Anyone ever notice how most of the time when you come up against an asian team in RA they have seemingly gotten to choose their groupmates and the team builds they end up with are incredibly balanced and effective?
I mean RA for americans is lop-sided as hell most of the time but for asians it does not seem that way.
I call BS
I mean RA for americans is lop-sided as hell most of the time but for asians it does not seem that way.
I call BS
Zaxan Razor
I call that you are just facing a team from the team arenas.
Either that or most Asian players are better than American players.
Either is perfectly possible
Either that or most Asian players are better than American players.
Either is perfectly possible
Fluffyx
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Originally Posted by tekeen
Anyone ever notice how most of the time when you come up against an asian team in RA they have seemingly gotten to choose their groupmates and the team builds they end up with are incredibly balanced and effective?
I mean RA for americans is lop-sided as hell most of the time but for asians it does not seem that way. I call BS |
drowningfish999
A team from team arenas can't go to random arenas.
Zaxan Razor
After your team has one so many consecutive matches, they play teams from the team arena.
Fred Kiwi
Happened to me too, I think I've only gone against them once or twice, but I didn't win either. (and one of them definately was organized)
Metanoia
I have a theory... It covers the "Why asians seem to have better teams" and "Why do I always seem to get less monks than my opponents".
In a winner-stays-on type of system, unless there are enough people playing for winning teams to keep facing off against others with an equal number of wins they're going to start being matched up against the newer teams.
So, this is why on a slow night/morning... whenever, you seem to be really unlucky in the team matchups and being pit against a lot of well balanced teams with nothing but W/Mo's for company.
Perhaps the same kind of thing happens with teams in all realms, when they run out of people to fight from their area they get matched up against foreign teams. This could explain why every asian team you come up against seem to be really well organised, they've probably won 6+ games already.
In a winner-stays-on type of system, unless there are enough people playing for winning teams to keep facing off against others with an equal number of wins they're going to start being matched up against the newer teams.
So, this is why on a slow night/morning... whenever, you seem to be really unlucky in the team matchups and being pit against a lot of well balanced teams with nothing but W/Mo's for company.
Perhaps the same kind of thing happens with teams in all realms, when they run out of people to fight from their area they get matched up against foreign teams. This could explain why every asian team you come up against seem to be really well organised, they've probably won 6+ games already.
nirhan shadowmauler
all i know is that lately every team i see that asian is an air ele, a warrior, a monk, AND a mesmer. in the random arenas. their random is NOT as random as ours.
Fluffyx
Yes, I'm sure we all know that 10 wins switches you from RA to TA. But this is after 4 or 5 wins that we run into a team. They use TA builds in RA call that coincidence if you want, my theory is that the asian players dont have as many as the US. So maybe they have to match them with our teams. It could even happen with europe but since their names dont stand out we would probably just think they got a good random team.
halbatross
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Originally Posted by tekeen
Anyone ever notice how most of the time when you come up against an asian team in RA they have seemingly gotten to choose their groupmates and the team builds they end up with are incredibly balanced and effective?
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TheMosesPHD
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Originally Posted by swordfisher
Oh yeah, that's the other thing. You can synchronize with your entrance with your buddies, and have a good chance of landing on the same team. I've never tried it myself, but I assume you do it by going to a low population district, noting the time when the next match begins, and all hitting enter at 00:00
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Anarki
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Originally Posted by halbatross
Nope, Asian teams never felt harder to beat in RA for me. If anything (on a european server) they seemed weaker than most teams.
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