Skills - Life Transfer

I like using this skill in conjuction with Life Siphon for massive DoT

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Oh..theres a second page. Lmao, nvm.

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This whole discussion is dumb.

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Why oh why is this game still full of braindead players who think they grab god by the balls because they killed someone with stacking -20 regen. Even in arena it only works vs total noobs. Any of my arena necros wipes the floor with life transfer noobs either through hex breaker or other means(my arena n/w uses sword and spinal shivers, say goodbye to life transfer and life siphon).

What all these people don't understand is that life transfer's damage can be healed in 2 orisons and the healing it provides can be killed in 2 axe skill hits. With 30 sec recharge it is one of the worst yet most used elites out there. I blame all the morons noobing it with blood necros in arena for making anet not fix necro for major league pvp.

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I beleive it would work like this. Lets say you had enough hexes on you to give you -12 HP regen. This would cap out at -10. A healing breeze for +9 HP regen would not give you -1 HP regen, it would be -3 because of the redundant -2 from before you cast the breeze.

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And Zi sums it up. Analyzing the entire meta-game is bad for your eyes; it's like predicting the stock market, and comparing degen to normal dps isn't too healthy either. In all objectiveness here, I think that skills like Lingering Curse and Wither have little use in the arenas, while Life Transfer does.

If it wasn't elite or if it had lower recharge it wouldn't be so bad. But now it is. Especially because it is easilly countered by non elite common spell like healing breeze. I expect more from my elites.

Everyone that underestimates this skill is an idiot. By casting this you pretty much eliminate their ability to be healed properly for a short time taking damage from other sources takes them down quickly. People that underestimate degen wont make it far against a well built tombs team :]

We've never lost to a team running life transfer in a 1v1 in tombs.

Degen is good and useful, but life transfer is one of the worst ways to do it.

Mainly by the fact that you can max degen on someones whole team without going near an elite (albeit with a bit of difficulty), while this doesnt quite hit it using the elite and only on one person. The argument that it does good damage is rubbish, since it doesnt, and the healing is too weak to be considered if your being whacked by somone with a brain.

I sometimes wonder wether people actually consider this stuff to be good, or are just trolling. There are lots of totally pointless skills that people used in cool builds - but at the end of the day, noone would take those builds into arranged GvG, or a tournament. Or the new ladder season, unless your playing with smurf guilds.

This skill has everything you dont need: huge recharge, casting time of 2, and who needs the regen on a necro? Whats the purpose of this character? Because of cost/recharge, thats the best thing you can do to the enemy. Put it on a monk, and get it inspired, or put it on a War, and get a Shatter / smite. They will love you.
Because you are using this, you are not casting cost-efficient cover hexes, and you dont have an elite that actually does anything. Great.

[post was made before skill rebalance oct 1st. Reserving right to be wrong after possible changes]

The more I play around with this skill, the less impressed I am. Necros have a boatload of other ways of causing degen, and the 30-second cooldown means it's down half the time. Maybe you could run Arcane Echo with this, but running two at once would also be pointless since you'd be wasting regen above 10, and you'd only get one echoed cast of this before waiting for _that_ to recharge.

many ppl seem to forget... that it does -8 health degen at lvl 12, and.....giving u +8 which is good for a necro.
-/+ = 16

There seems to be alot of sources on various websites and GWFreak tool that suggest lifetransfer can be capped from The Black Curtian by Temple of Ages from a foe named Shadow of Death, heres what i got instead



please update your info

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Life Transfer is a sub-standard elite, though redeeming itself somewhat by the time you hit high levels of blood. Life Siphon is very nearly as efficient otherwise.

Life Siphon hits 13.2 life(damage) per energy spent at 12 Blood, 15.6 at level 16.
Life Transfer is 15.4 life(damage) per energy at 12 Blood, a much more efficient 23.4 at level 16.

Life transfer can gain a maximum, and deal a maximum, of 234 damage (healing) per 32 seconds, based on cast-time and recharge time.
Lif Siphon, while not quite as efficient, could, over the same 32 seconds quite easily be put on 3 members of an opposing team - You finish casting the first at 2 seconds, the second at 6.75 seconds, the third at 11.5 seconds, with it lasting till the 37.5 second mark; ignoring the damage that isn't dealt within the 32 second window for the life transfer you get a total of 71.75 seconds of 6 damage per second, for 430.5 damage over that time. This means that if you have enegy to spen you can do a lot more damage over time with Siphon than with Transfer.

Does it work? Sure - at high enough Blood it starts being a reasonable spell. It is limited in how much damage it can deal in a given period of time, but is fairly efficient. I don't personally like it much, but it's not horrible. At 12 blood I'd rather cast 2 life siphons I think and have the slightly reduced efficiency, but keep my elite slot free. At 16 (or 18?) blood it may pay off enough to be worth considering, as it looks like 18 blood would be about 10 pips for 14 seconds, or 28 damage per energy, a pretty good ratio, almost as good as healing - and it is healing you in the meantime, too. The problem with any of these is that they don't mix that well with other degenerations, so they don't always function at anywhere near peak efficiency and they don't necessarily last long enough to be worthwhile.

life transfer is the worse blood elite, a blood necro needs to be using BiP in pve (and a few PvP builds, can you say MF?) and OoB in pve and pvp

The number of necros i see in Iron Mines asking to cap this has gone up 4x since last time I was there.

What 6 years (and counting) of playing Magic The Gathering have taught me is that in order to do well in any sort of organized game that invloves you going up against OTHER players in stead of just your computer you must study the metagame and figure out all the possible builds that are out there, I agree that with HoH and having 8 players per team this could be hard but it also brings in unmatched advantages versus playing 4vs4 Random or Team Arenas, the thing is life xfer is not that bad of a skill in and of itself but and in retrospect if you consider that in 8vs8 your team can have an actual strategy and life transfer becomes that much more powerful, if you have 3 people (for example bear in mind not always the best choice) casting it you can negate the long recharge duration and if you have those same 3 people casting siphon at the same time that -19degen that even a breeze cant tackle and when combined with the often used poison and bleeding in most organized teams u can really take down a tough warrior qiuckly, the thing is, in most good HoH teams it is not quick enough, what I've learned by doing PvP with war machine (before they kicked me off) is that speed is everything you must have a fast plan to take down individual targets and must be coordinated beyond imagination to be even slightly successful in GvG PvP and HoH. In conclusion its not so much what skills you use but how you coordinate with your team in order to implement the strategies neccessary to win the game, if they unorthodox and unsuspected that is even better because your opponents team will not be prepared. edit" The redundant degeneration of -19 is carried on if yuor opponent then has a breeze on him, you cannot assume that just because u put maxed degen it will stay that way"

Hey, i was woundering, could you use this on The Undead Lich in the last mission, and would it kill him faster? If so, i have the perfect build and team for the mission.

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