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EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

18 Mar 2006 at 19:41 - 1

If you not been to direct song recently, they've been adding a bunch of stuff.
Jeremy Soule is a very active

For GuildWars you have
Original Soundtrack
Sorrow's Furnace Mini-Pak
BattlePak One
GW Special Edition Pak (not sure what it contains but it exists w/ the "Special" Edition of GW)

Future GuildWars
Maybe a "special" pak for the CE of factions or the Factions OST (not sure which)
Assume a Faction Soundtrack..
Assume a 2nd "BattlePak" to expand Factions music beyond original score

But at the same time they've added:
Elder Scrolls III Morrowind
*Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion
*Dungeon Seige II
and coming soon Prey

* The price has jumped to 9.99 on these, assume Prey will be the same, mind you the above does not add to GuildWars.

turbo21

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

18 Mar 2006 at 20:14 - 2

how do you add music to ur guildwars?

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

18 Mar 2006 at 20:41 - 3

Sorrow's Furnace Mini-Pak is free.
www.directsong.com, create an account, then grab the free Sorrow's Furnace.

When you install any guildwars directsong packs, it makes a change to your computer. When GW launched it looks for this change and if it see's it will play the higher quailty audio files (when it's "triggered" by guild wars) from your hard drive instead of the built in game music.

If you grab the Sorrow's Furnace mini-pak, you would only hear this if your in Grenth's Footprint, Warcamp or SF.

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

18 Mar 2006 at 21:28 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternalTempest

If you grab the Sorrow's Furnace mini-pak, you would only hear this if your in Grenth's Footprint, Warcamp or SF.

I disabled DirectSong a while before I started messing around in Furnace. I'll have to re-enable it now, thanks for reminding me...

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

18 Mar 2006 at 21:33 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugaet

I disabled DirectSong a while before I started messing around in Furnace. I'll have to re-enable it now, thanks for reminding me...

Re-Download any paks, it will update the "triggers" that greatly reduce's the same tracks over and over again issue that made the game very bland after the directsong paks were installed.

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

18 Mar 2006 at 21:45 - 6

The SF minipack plays the music when you're in Grenth's/Furnace/Warcamp? Odd, I thought that music always played there, and this minipak was not integrated with the game, and was just a little "mini-soundtrack" playlist of sorts for listening to in Windows Media Player/Winamp/Etc.

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

18 Mar 2006 at 21:55 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

The SF minipack plays the music when you're in Grenth's/Furnace/Warcamp? Odd, I thought that music always played there, and this minipak was not integrated with the game, and was just a little "mini-soundtrack" playlist of sorts for listening to in Windows Media Player/Winamp/Etc.

The audio files from the DirectSong are of a higher sound quality but will play the same tracks when the game calls for the next song as it would if you did not have it as well as stand alone ability to play the tracks within WMP.

When the battle pak one came out, the changed it so all towns / outposts play the same tracks over and over again and the carefully planned music that came with the game as to what and when was kinda thrown out the window

They have greatly improved and "tweaked" what plays where right around the time of PvP faction event.

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

18 Mar 2006 at 22:17 - 8

OK, I'll redownload them. Thanks for letting us know.

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

18 Mar 2006 at 23:59 - 9

What are you, some Direct Song Salesman?

Direct song sucks and I would never let it near any of my computers

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

19 Mar 2006 at 00:51 - 10

Is it even worth it to download the DirectSong paks?

Are they even the higher quality that most speak of?

I tried the samples at the site and it doesn't sound much different than what's already there.

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

19 Mar 2006 at 01:00 - 11

I agree...I just got the MiniPak because the SF/Grenth's music are some of the most intense and awesomely-orchestrated pieces yet.

The music that plays in Borlis Pass, at Rurik's cutscene is great as well, but only plays then and on the login screen (after the Factions, Pre-searing, and Kryta themes play). That's awesome, and appears very rarely ingame. The rest, I'm not sure if it's worth it.

In truth, I recorded that Borlis Pass music using Frap's (hid the interface, and turned the sound slider down) so I just had the pure music. All that desperation for something so good, it beats spending money in reality for a soundtrack that has nothing I want but that. I call that Borlis Pass music, "Rurik's Theme". I believe the Soundtrack has a "Prince Rurik's Theme" - whether or not it's the Borlis Pass music, any of you diehard DirectSongers feel free to let me know out of extreme curiosity.

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

19 Mar 2006 at 16:44 - 12

no wonder i always found that some part of guildwars music and sound effect are just same as dungeon siege

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

19 Mar 2006 at 16:50 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman

What are you, some Direct Song Salesman?

Direct song sucks and I would never let it near any of my computers

Same here - as far as I am concerned they can keep their DRM infested audiofiles. I prefer my music to be without handcuffs. Thanks, but no thanks.

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

19 Mar 2006 at 21:50 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantus

Same here - as far as I am concerned they can keep their DRM infested audiofiles. I prefer my music to be without handcuffs. Thanks, but no thanks.

Stick to Orginal Soundtracks (Guildwars OST, Morrowind, Oblivion, Dungeon Seige II), come with full unlimited cd-burning rights so you can create a standard audio cd and then do what every you want with.

Aka make a standard cd, encode to your favorite app, then do what you want with.

The SF and GW Battle Pak I are the one's that don't have burning rights and are very restrictive.

I too hate DRM but since this is the only way for GW to have enhanced music, I'm stuck with it too.

I loved the 1st OST for guildwars and the SF pak and loved DirectSong. When Battelpak I came out for a while, I did end up disapling DS due to repeat tracks. They fixed (almost completely) this situation when the 1st Factions PvP event came out.

I've been recently having DSII soundtrack play and loop when playing GW recently.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

In truth, I recorded that Borlis Pass music using Frap's (hid the interface, and turned the sound slider down) so I just had the pure music. All that desperation for something so good, it beats spending money in reality for a soundtrack that has nothing I want but that. I call that Borlis Pass music, "Rurik's Theme". I believe the Soundtrack has a "Prince Rurik's Theme" - whether or not it's the Borlis Pass music, any of you diehard DirectSongers feel free to let me know out of extreme curiosity.

Try Audacity (free open source audio editor / recorder) - http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

20 Mar 2006 at 00:12 - 15

I personally love the Morrowind stuff, especially the main theme. Jeremy Soule has done an unbelievable amount of game soundtracks.

Go to his homepage and click on the 'credits' tab. Way more stuff than I thought..

Nice to get a bit of a peek on the Oblivion music there as well, great remix of the Morrowwind theme there (well the 30 secs you can listen too anyway).

Phoenix Avenger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Wisconsin

Eternal Knights

E/Mo

20 Mar 2006 at 05:06 - 16

I just like my rock/metal music lol. Game music is okay sometimes, but it gets boring after awhile.

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

20 Mar 2006 at 05:19 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

I agree...I just got the MiniPak because the SF/Grenth's music are some of the most intense and awesomely-orchestrated pieces yet.

The music that plays in Borlis Pass, at Rurik's cutscene is great as well, but only plays then and on the login screen (after the Factions, Pre-searing, and Kryta themes play). That's awesome, and appears very rarely ingame. The rest, I'm not sure if it's worth it.

In truth, I recorded that Borlis Pass music using Frap's (hid the interface, and turned the sound slider down) so I just had the pure music. All that desperation for something so good, it beats spending money in reality for a soundtrack that has nothing I want but that. I call that Borlis Pass music, "Rurik's Theme". I believe the Soundtrack has a "Prince Rurik's Theme" - whether or not it's the Borlis Pass music, any of you diehard DirectSongers feel free to let me know out of extreme curiosity.

That song is "Tasca's Demise" and it plays once in a while in Droknar's Forge... but it's a good song.

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

20 Mar 2006 at 07:55 - 18

I downloaded it after considerable scans of the files to check for rootkits and other hidden files. I love the music, the day that I realised that my favourite gaming soundtracks were actually written by the same guy was a revelation. I sat there thinking for ages that some of the GW music was vaguely familiar and then it hit me where I had heard some of the themes.
Google was a very good friend to me that day

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

20 Mar 2006 at 07:57 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternalTempest

The SF and GW Battle Pak I are the one's that don't have burning rights and are very restrictive.

And funnily enough, these packs are the only music that's actually new. The GW original soundtrack comes with CE, for example, too. Morrowind has the complete soundtrack in MP3 format in its game directory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternalTempest

I too hate DRM but since this is the only way for GW to have enhanced music, I'm stuck with it too.

No, you're not "stuck" with it, YOU are supporting DRM by buying it, thus you actually encouraging them to use DRM. So please don't say you hate it. Nobody forced you to buy that DRM-ware. If people wouldn't buy anything with DRM, DRM wouldn't exist. Simple as that.

Don't you think I'd like to have enhanced music, too? I "enhance" my GW music by running XMMS/Winamp in the background. Works too and no handcuffs attached.

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

20 Mar 2006 at 13:55 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantus

No, you're not "stuck" with it, YOU are supporting DRM by buying it, thus you actually encouraging them to use DRM. So please don't say you hate it. Nobody forced you to buy that DRM-ware. If people wouldn't buy anything with DRM, DRM wouldn't exist. Simple as that.

Maybe DRM or any other copy protection exists because so many users rather copy the music files from the Internet than buy them from the stores? There is plenty of asses who copy them for free even they would cost .10 cents per track because they get them for free and are proud of that.

I don't like DRM either but they play fine with GW and that is all I need. These are more like in-game music anyway but that is just opinion. However, I would never buy DRM protected non-in-game music because it has too much limitations. They must work in any CD/MP3/... player.

Fantus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

20 Mar 2006 at 14:49 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakarr

Maybe DRM or any other copy protection exists because so many users rather copy the music files from the Internet than buy them from the stores? There is plenty of asses who copy them for free even they would cost .10 cents per track because they get them for free and are proud of that.

That might be true, it still doesn't change the fact the DRM is stripping me of just about every right I might have as a legal buyer. DRM might be there because of the copiers, but if the legal purchasers would not accept DRM it would be gone quite quickly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakarr

However, I would never buy DRM protected non-in-game music because it has too much limitations. They must work in any CD/MP3/... player.

That's exactly why I would never buy any music that comes with DRM or at least without CD burning privileges (which is the same thing as not being protected in the first place). I am a big fan of Jeremy Soule and I would like to listen to his music on my stereo. DRM doesn't allow me to. No burning rights, no purchase.

John Bloodstone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Requiem Lords

R/Me

20 Mar 2006 at 16:02 - 22

Just to throw more fuel on the fire...

For as long as these DirectSong add-ons use DRM, I will never ever use them. DRM is just about the worst thing to ever happen to music, and I do not want to be a part of that.

Having said that, I tried the Sorrow's Furnace pack, and it made my game unplayable and I had to reinstall. gg DRM.

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

20 Mar 2006 at 20:00 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantus

And funnily enough, these packs are the only music that's actually new. The GW original soundtrack comes with CE, for example, too. Morrowind has the complete soundtrack in MP3 format in its game directory.

GW OST DS version has 4-5 bonus songs, Battle Pak I adds new music. Morrowind he remixed some of them to sound better and there higher quality then the mp3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantus

No, you're not "stuck" with it, YOU are supporting DRM by buying it, thus you actually encouraging them to use DRM. So please don't say you hate it. Nobody forced you to buy that DRM-ware. If people wouldn't buy anything with DRM, DRM wouldn't exist. Simple as that.

I do respect your view and you have every right to express it about not buying music with DRM. I do hate DRM, but with DS, I don't feel there that "evil" compared to other companies and there tech support has been great with me. I've had issue with DS in the past but been able to resolve them.

They give you burning rights for the OST, which then allow me to do what I want with them (just not the the "paks"). If they did not have burn rights on any of there products, I would not of bought from them.

I understand the chicken and the egg situation, no one buy DRM, it won't be used. At the same time far too many people accept it for this to work (imho).

Here's what I have to do so I'm not going to "loose my music" or other application that have "internet activation" that require me to use said program / or listen to music.

Install Windows XP /w Service Pack 2 integrated in to the install disc
Install All Windows Update / Security Updates
Install All programs that require "Internet Activation" or any DRM music (I activate a permanent copy on my pc).
Defrag Hard Drive
Use Norton Ghost 2003 to make a complete backup of my hard drive (with it being current at the time and all program's activated, and any DRM music can be played).
Back up Norton Ghost Image to my DVD-Burner and keep nice and safe.
If I have to "redo" my machine, I just back up stuff, then restore my clean working image.
Every major service pack I need to do over again and worry if I reactivate too many times will I get "tripped" for too many installs.

This is one of the many reason's why I hate DRM, I would not have to do this if I did not have any programs that required internet activation or DRM Music.

You have every right to express your view and you can choose to not buy it in protest, and I do understand your view but I do hate DRM.

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

20 Mar 2006 at 20:20 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakarr

Maybe DRM or any other copy protection exists because so many users rather copy the music files from the Internet than buy them from the stores? There is plenty of asses who copy them for free even they would cost .10 cents per track because they get them for free and are proud of that.

Are you out of YOUR MIND?!

IF tracks were .10 a track(and a decent quality at that), P2P would dry up. There would be no real reason for DRM music or to enforce sharing. That would solve every music lover's problem.

But you see, the big name Record Companies are greedier than the Tobacco Industry. They would do ANYTHING to make people pay that extra buck. So that's why iTunes tracks are .99 for a measley 128kbps. AND THAT PRICE was set to RISE until they got busted for price fixing last month.

DRM does nothing great for the consumer.

HOWEVER, most of the DirectSong packs are Free to people who buy the game. Which is the only reason why I don't feel much of any anger torward them. Now when I have to start paying for the DRM music, that is when I get concerned.