2 hands axe and sword + more......

bulletsmile

bulletsmile

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Konglevegen

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it would be cool if we could get 2 handed swords or axes in the game, like the sword nightmare in soul calibur 2 and Zabuza in Naruto. We could get 1 handed hammer too, with lower dmg of course.

And the ranger could get a crossbow/armbow!

What do you guys think?

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

The warrior skills are balanced for the weapons they currently have. Letting a warrior use axe skills with a higher-damage weapon would be unbalancing.

And you'd really never see a shield in PVP again. What kind of warrior player would sacrifice damage for a bit of armor?

bulletsmile

bulletsmile

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Konglevegen

N/

well two-handed axe would be slower, it could cost some energy to wear, just to balance it out

golem bigstick

golem bigstick

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Elite Rifle Squad Faction

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i also want this to happen. i have dreamt and dreamt of a nice zabuza sword. a fellblade just doesnt cut it IMO.

Alcazanar

Alcazanar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon (swe)

Desert Flame [DF]

W/N

i agree (even though the entire idea is silly)
the first thing i was complaining about in gw
was that you dont really have those cool
2 handed swords to wield but i guess there
is reasons...

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

W/

I vote no.

Rogier

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

[GoT]

would be cool but there should be some diffrent skill for these weapons and slower attack rate

LaserLight

LaserLight

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

La La Land

[NOVA]

A/

You'd need a new profession for buster-sword users (and when you're talking about Nightmare and Zabuza, you're talking about buster swords). Warriors are A.) overpowered as it is, and B.) not designed to wield that sort of weapon.

A Buster Swordsman would deal some insane damage totals, but his attack speed would be slow and he couldn't use very heavy armor since most of his strength goes towards wielding that monstrous blade. It would definitely be an offensive class...hmm...

*Gets to thinking* Might be seeing a Buster Swordsman from me soon, I think :-P

Soul Shaker

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

Maybe not buster swordsman...ugh...i really don't wanna see *buster* in a class name...

But, this has been suggested 50 bazillion times over and i've seen a WoW noob who quit when he first discovered that there aren't any 2h swords...he did so in a big hissy fit pre-sear as well. Also refusing to accept the fact that it's balance and the only thing that matters is the armour you're wearing...

remind never to go to WoW with a-holes like that.

Locust Toybox

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Wank-Sample

Aristocracy of Cantha

N/Me

This seriously would completely unbalance the game. Swords are supposed to be lower dammage, fast-strike weapons. If you want a gigantic 2 handed weapon, go for a hammer. The whole point of having hammers is substituting speed and armor for more dammage. I have to say, though, it is nice to dream about...

pappayaponta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Europian Comando force

W/Mo

/signed

bulletsmile

bulletsmile

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Konglevegen

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by LaserLight
You'd need a new profession for buster-sword users (and when you're talking about Nightmare and Zabuza, you're talking about buster swords). Warriors are A.) overpowered as it is, and B.) not designed to wield that sort of weapon.

A Buster Swordsman would deal some insane damage totals, but his attack speed would be slow and he couldn't use very heavy armor since most of his strength goes towards wielding that monstrous blade. It would definitely be an offensive class...hmm...

*Gets to thinking* Might be seeing a Buster Swordsman from me soon, I think :-P
Good idea, a new profession!!

Uzul

Uzul

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Arctic Tundra

Pints N Quarts [PsQs]

zabuza can take his knife and go peal some potatoes when you look at gatsu from berserk - THAT is what i call a big sword. Oo

dreaming is nice, but the assasin will never be like manji, warriors will not get oversized weapons and there will be now way to throw a hammer at the target's head.

with a new weapon category there should be new skills as well: and those swords and axes should require high strength to be wielded - kinda like the sentinels armor.

there might be a way to implement them in a balanced way... but i am happy with new skins for the existing weapons and a bigger pool of skills to choose from. ^^

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Since people are so concerned with the whole balance thing. Why not simply make hammers with a large sword skin. Okay so it wouldn't be a two handed sword but it would be a reasonable medium between what people want. I mean generally people only want a two handed sword because of how it looks.

bulletsmile

bulletsmile

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Konglevegen

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaKai
mean generally people only want a two handed sword because of how it looks.
yup

and it would be more fun with it too i think, why do it have to get out of balance becouse of that, a large sword could be slower, -(negative) in something, you name it

SziP

SziP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaKai
Since people are so concerned with the whole balance thing. Why not simply make hammers with a large sword skin. Okay so it wouldn't be a two handed sword but it would be a reasonable medium between what people want. I mean generally people only want a two handed sword because of how it looks.
Lol you are funny, i laughed my ass for like 2 mins after i read your post. Anyways , i have to disagree with the ninjaKai, its ridiculous to see a hammer with a blade skin that would be considered hammer.

But i do agree with Bulletsmile 100%, and i would really want to see nice swords or axes in the game( 2 handed Sephis Axe ftw ^_^ )
/signed

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

/signed ^^

how about 2 weapon-fighting style, 2 handed swords etc

RBK

RBK

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

England

Forgotten oF Cantha

W/R

Well what about a scythe? How cool would that be! Id love to see a scythe. Hmm maybe Im thinking to much into but what about a sword with two blades, one at each end? You know like darth maul and his dual light sabres. (would that be seen as two handed as you would have to use two hands to land some of the attacks. Or do you think a weapon like that screams new character class?)

Or is that to far do you think?

Minus Sign

Minus Sign

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/N

The weapons attack time and damage can be set per weapon so that they are balanced. Slower attack times than their 1-handed counterparts. Remember; its not a hammer with an axe skin. Its an axe with its own stats.

Besides; we were promised more weapon choices a long time ago. This is one way to fullfill that promise without flooding Warriors with loads of weapon SKILLS to have to choose from. Last thing I wanna see is a bunch more skills I'll never use because they aren't with the weapon set I prefer.

/signed

PS: whats wrong with never seeing another shield in PvP again? And why wouldn't there be? Just like swapping to energy foci now, people would probably want to swap to a 1-handed and their shield in high damage taking situations. PvP-wise, this should increase weapons strategy, not decrease.

frickett

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

i dont understand why there arent already one handed hammers, and 2 handed swords and axes.

bulletsmile

bulletsmile

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Konglevegen

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...and don't forget: armbow or crossbow, a smaller bow on your arm for rangers, maybe even 1-handed or faster with weaker dmg!!!

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

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Gutts rule! Go Dragon Slayer!

/signed for LaserLight to come up with a profession that uses big big swords, like the one Gatsu from Berserk uses

Pi_Numurian

Pi_Numurian

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Numurian Vanguard

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by bulletsmile
it would be cool if we could get 2 handed swords or axes in the game, like the sword nightmare in soul calibur 2 and Zabuza in Naruto. We could get 1 handed hammer too, with lower dmg of course.

And the ranger could get a crossbow/armbow!

What do you guys think?
no not really

Empirism

Empirism

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

I dont sign to new big dmg weapons generally, but for new profession liek barbarian or some with lower armors but greater 2h dmg weapons would be really cool. dual wield weapons are in assassin class.

but if not in next faction, Anet should really think of adding these 2h weapons to new professions to 3rd release on gw saga for sure! good idea overall imo /signed

pappayaponta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Europian Comando force

W/Mo

/signed

N19h7m4r3

N19h7m4r3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

My lovely little apartment.

None

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I would love this. Not only is my Long Sword almost the length for it spacially with my tiny warrior but it would be really nice to actually have more diverse items to use.

/Signed

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

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As long as i can use evicserate/exceuctioner's at the same time

mgrifram

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Northern Virginia

The Lords Wrath

W/Mo

Give the Two Handed the same damage and speed as hammer but use Sword skills, and of course no shield. I look forward to this. All those that disagree are prob casters, be afraid be very afraid..... ;P ITS A GAME!!!!

nStrife

nStrife

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

euro servers

W/

Why not add two-handed swords and such as a new weapon mastery attribute in subsequent chapters?
They can still b somewhat balanced: Great Swords - Attack speed slightly greater than taht of the hammer, but instead of KD, can specialize in gashes or something along those lines.

btw, i think i read somewhere taht new professions were unlikely for chp3 atm, so why not more attributes for current classes??

pappayaponta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Europian Comando force

W/Mo

/Multi-ZzIgneD

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

Let's add dual weapons while were at it!?!?!?



just leave it the way it is....

DOCB22

DOCB22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

[SGC]

I just want my warrior to Dual Wield Chaos Axes
GOD that would be sexy

Ka El Windstorm

Ka El Windstorm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

wielding a katana from factions with one hand will look stupid imo. So i say Bring on the two handed swords.

/signed

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

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It still wouldnt be cool, or balanced.

Sorry folks, not gonna happen on a current class, or any future class that uses the current attributes.

BahamutKaiser

BahamutKaiser

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Heightened state of mind.

P/W

It is true, the damage and effectiveness of skills include the kind of weapon and damage that go along with them. But they could make 2 handed swords and axes which use the same attribute as normal swords and axes, but have a totaly different set of skills available to them.

For example, points in sword mastery would improve damage on Sword and 2 handed swords, but a totaly new set of skills would be made for 2 handed swords, and none of these skills would be interchangable with either weapon.

If you look at the number of skills in Sword (8), Axe (9), and Hammer (11), they are about half as many as other classes, if they made another 6 or 7 skills for two handed swords and axes in each attribute, Warriors would still have less skills in that attribute then many other classes, not that it realy matters since the real balance is the number of skills you can bring. In this way new grades of weapon, same type but different wield, would be available to warrior, with skills balanced for the damage and speed of that weapon, wile remaining in that attribute.

Warriors could still use skills in that attribute of either 1 handed or 2 handed type by switching out weapon sets, the damage would be balanced for the weapon. This is rather comparable to an Elementist switching out Spell modifying weapons when using multiple elements.

In this way Anet could provide 2 handed swords and Axes wile retaining the balance of damage on skills for each, but not having to make totaly new attributes.

On a side note, if something like this was added to warrior, something of equal improvement and advantage should be considered for multiple jobs (elementist most importantly IMO), because having a better damage option and new perhaps more effective skills a significant plus.

New class with 2 handed sword? Samurai, best not to make something to simular to warrior, Katana are a whole different kind of sword wielding.