Need flame slinger help pls !

Lectic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Mar 2006 at 00:37 - 1

R/E.
I will use these skills :

Quick Shot
Dual Shot
Tiger's Fury
Conjure Fire
Kindle Arrows
Favorable Winds
Pin Down / Savage Shot
Res Sig

My questions :

1, How about the Points ( expertise / marksman / wilderness survival / fire / beast mastery ) , how should I spend all of them ? I do have Dual Shot , so expertise breakpoint for 10 would be nice.

2,Pin Down / Savage Shot ?

3,Do Favorable Winds stack with Kindle Arrows ?

4,Runes?Which,pls tell me.

5,I think I'll use druids armor , Im not sure though , would u say yes ?

6,Mana might be, and most likely will be a problem, if I should not use Dual Shot , what bow attack than ?

Please do not ask about other skills and argue , that I should not use them , I do , only argue about the ones I asked of

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Thanx in advance .

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

20 Mar 2006 at 00:43 - 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lectic

1, How about the Points ( expertise / marksman / wilderness survival / fire / beast mastery ) , how should I spend all of them ?.

first get rid of at least 1 or 2 of those or go home.

you will be spread impossibly thin with a 5 way attribute spread

EDIT

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...tion-id270.php

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

R/

20 Mar 2006 at 00:46 - 3

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=89472 is a good start

1. This build is an energy eater. You'll need high Expertise. Since most of the damage relies on Kindle arrow's and Conjure Flame, those need to be somewhat high too. Get the 9 minimum on Marksmanship. I don't use tigers fury since it wastes a slot and uses an extra attribute, but it's how you play that determines what you need and don't need.

2. Savage shot.

3. Yes

4. I use Superior on Wilderness and Expertise, the rest of the attributes have minor.

5. Druids for everything you do

. Extra energy.

6. You must use dualshot. Get a zealous bowstring, it's great for energy management in this build.

Lectic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Mar 2006 at 00:47 - 4

Expertise,marksman,fire and low wilderness survival,beast mastery .

Mainly I want to know which level of expertise I should have to get the break point for 10 energy uses ( without runes) , I think it was 14,but I dont remember.

Lectic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Mar 2006 at 00:50 - 5

chris if I use zealous , what about fire dmg ? I fought kindle doesnt change ur dmg to fire anymore? Ok marksmanship 9 . Im staying with tf , I like it

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Superior rune ok so thats +3 to expertise , but what should I have without the rune to have the breakpoint of dual shot costing me 4 ( or 3 ) ?

EDIT:Sorry for double post.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

20 Mar 2006 at 00:52 - 6

Originally Posted by Lectic

Expertise,marksman,fire and low wilderness survival,beast mastery .

Mainly I want to know which level of expertise I should have to get the break point for 10 energy uses ( without runes) , I think it was 14,but I dont remember. level 14 requires a major rune or a minor plus a +1 headpiece i think

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

R/

20 Mar 2006 at 00:54 - 7

Originally Posted by Lectic

chris if I use zealous , what about fire dmg ? I fought kindle doesnt change ur dmg to fire anymore? Ok marksmanship 9 . Im staying with tf , I like it

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Superior rune ok so thats +3 to expertise , but what should I have without the rune to have the breakpoint of dual shot costing me 4 ( or 3 ) ? Firstly, Kindle Arrows changes your damage to fire type.

Secondly. Did you read Loviatar's post? It explains breakoff points in the link. And that you shouldn't spread out points like that.

EDIT: I thought Loviatar posted something useful

Stick Out Tongue

Just playing. Here's the breakoff points, 14 will do.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...sts-id1154.php

Lectic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Mar 2006 at 01:00 - 8

Ok with

Fire Magic: 8
Expertise: 10+3+1
Wilderness Survival: 10+3
Marksmanship: 8+1

It will leave me 4 points ( u have 200 free right? )

Thats Beast Mastery 3 + rune.

And I can take 1 from Wilderness Survival

than its 5 + rune .

EDIT : Ah sorry I didnt read it after he edited it , thx for the link ! And thx for reposting it chris

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EDIT: 9 got fixed .

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

R/

20 Mar 2006 at 01:01 - 9

That'll work. But I always love self heal and some sort of defense.
7 seconds of increased speed really doesn't float my boat. But it does for you

You're making me want to go back to PvP

Lectic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Mar 2006 at 01:16 - 10

Self heal hm ... I was also thinking of the bows ... I know its not too used but I would love a short bow .. The +30 meters or yards or whats it called or how much there is of them dont help so much in dps as really fast rate

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So maybe a fiery 13-28 13^50 , +26 ?

I was thinking of wirling defense or troll unguent , if I will use one of them , tell me which is better for pve when I dont have a monk ?

EDIT: And instead of it what should I use it? Savage ? Or Favorable Winds?

Lectic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Mar 2006 at 01:24 - 11

I think I shouldnt edit twice so Ill double post , sorry for it .

Also is there a need for wilderness survival to be at 13 ? Or is it just important ? What does the kindle buff go like ? Whats it at 10-13 ?

Chaos Eryx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Death Destruction Domination

W/Mo

20 Mar 2006 at 22:23 - 12

R/E

Conjure Flame +10 dmg
Kindle Arrows +16 dmg
Favorable Winds +6 dmg
Dual Shot
Determined Shot +17 dmg
Hunters Shot +13 dmg
Troll
Rez Sig/Whirling Defense

12 Marksmanship 8+3+1
10 Expertise 7+3
9 Wilderness 8+1
9 Fire Magic

Drago's FlatBow

This is what I ran. I think the att points are right but I can't look right now, they're pretty close.

Dual Shot hits for +64 dmg not including dmg from the arrow. Usually you will hit in the high +90's or better, +49 from Determined Shot include arrow dmg and it's around +64 dmg and hunters is +45 and around +60 including arrow dmg.

One chain will hit for around 218 dmg or a little better. Soft Targets drop quickly and 2 to 2 1/2 chains should drop a Warrior easily. Keep in mind that PvE set up. I would never take this build in to PvP only because E Denial will kick your arse and I like playing other Ranger builds better. Although it might a good spike alternative to the OoV Spike.

K.Ichigo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

21 Mar 2006 at 02:08 - 13

Punishing Shot over Determined at the very least...