Why on earth are there no smiting focus items?

K.Ichigo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

No collectors or greens anyways.

Jas D

Jas D

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oklahoma, USA

None

Because if there was, dwayna wouldn't be happy and you would be forced to feel her wrath.

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Censor%27s_Icon
http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Diessa_Icon

Not actually smiting linked
http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Ivor%27s_Icon

There aren't a lot though. On the bright side, there aren't many times where a 20/20 smiting staff wouldn't suffice anyway. (Though I'll admit there're situations where it's a focus you're in need of specifically, as with a w/mo with smiting prayers when you want a little backup energy or some such thing)

K.Ichigo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

That's BS... The Censor's Icon isn't customized right? So I may be able to buy it off someone?

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

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I believe there is a 20/20 smiting staff though in the desert. It takes 5 Griffon wings. If I knew the name of zones I'd say where it is, but it's right next to a zone marker.

stickyballs

stickyballs

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

American Servers

Sin Squad [SIN]

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It is, as if you enter the code it becomes attatched to your account. You would have to buy the key, and there is no way to tell if the key is BS or not.

TheMosesPHD, there is a 20/20 Smiting Staff, but he is looking for Smiting offhands.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Did I miss something? It looks like there were deleted posts or something. Really wish the mods would stop that, as it makes some people look completely insane.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
Did I miss something? It looks like there were deleted posts or something. Really wish the mods would stop that, as it makes some people look completely insane.
I see no problem with the progression of Posts :\

OP: Askes
Guy1: makes a joke
Guy2: Shows how the OP is wrong
OP: Asks about Guy2's censor icon link
Guy3: Comments on a statement in Guy2's post
Guy4: answers the OP's second post question
You

>_>

Anyway, Smiting is a requirement that is rarer. True. Protection prayers also doesnt have many things linked to it.

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
Did I miss something? It looks like there were deleted posts or something. Really wish the mods would stop that, as it makes some people look completely insane.
No, there were no posts deleted. Try reading the details on the Censor's Icon. That will explain it.

Pevil Lihatuh

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.Ichigo
That's BS... The Censor's Icon isn't customized right? So I may be able to buy it off someone?
it's preorder so it will be customised (assuming it works like every other preorder). As soon as you 'create' one it becomes customised to the char you made it on. If it wasn't people could make one, sell, make one, sell, ma... you get the picture Easy money... and I'd be selling my chimeric prism :P

Cirian

Cirian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

The Amazon Basin

Hmm, diessa icon or bust... although since it has only +6 energy, you could get any old unlinked +6 energy focus from post searing ascalon, since up to +6 energy foci can drop without a req iirc.

Moa Bird Cultist

Moa Bird Cultist

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hastings (UK) / Latham (USA)

Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]

E/W

My smiter runs with a healing ankh atm, but imo the best offhand a smiter can get, apart from the never to be found ivor's icon, is an inspiration offhand, as inspiration skills complement signet smiting nicely. But on the other hand, it would be nice to see a proper smiting focus in factions.

EDIT: Also, theres one reason rod and focus > Staff.

You dont have to spend a shedload of cash upgrading the rod/focus, but a staff is gonna be insightful and enchanting/defence/fortitude etc - a lot of money that not everyone has.

floplag

floplag

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

SoCal

Gamerz United

Me/N

there arent alot of pure direct smite skills anyway. i tried to turn mine into a smiter to releive the dissatisfaction with it, but it really didnt work out as i hoped

Moa Bird Cultist

Moa Bird Cultist

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hastings (UK) / Latham (USA)

Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]

E/W

I'd tend to disagree. Theres plenty of smiting skills, but as is the case with any attribute, only a few decent skills within it. Smiters can be very dangerous when using a signet build and scourge smiters are a useful asset too. Ever seen a blood necro with awaken the blood AND scourge sacrifice on him use a sac skill? Trust me, it's very, very funny (Or I'm just evil )

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Yeah..Theres also no collectors who give strength based shields for warriors either.

It's an incredibly large pain in the arse that the only way for me to get a good shield is to have to buy one for an asinine price.

floplag

floplag

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

SoCal

Gamerz United

Me/N

ok, so let me pose this .. can we see some good smite builds ? i dont see alot of talk on that subject

Moa Bird Cultist

Moa Bird Cultist

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hastings (UK) / Latham (USA)

Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]

E/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by floplag
ok, so let me pose this .. can we see some good smite builds ? i dont see alot of talk on that subject
My favourite build for PvE smiting is Signet of Judgement/Mantra of Signets/Mantra Of Inscriptions/Bane Signet/Smite Hex. The other 3 skills are situational, but usually consist of some of the following: Smite, Scourge Healing (mostly in fissure for the skeletal bonds,) Scourge Sacrifice, Energy Tap (For more energy heavy builds,) Symbol of Wrath, (as both a detterent and situationally a damage dealer too,) Purge Conditions and usually I bring Rebirth, mostly because I'm always furthest from the enemy, (I like to kite ) and last to die

Damage comes in fits and starts, but it's guaranteed knockdown which has so many uses and when I'm not doing the damage, I can at least look out for the odd hex or condition. Bane signet isnt that essential, it's all about sig of judgement really.

Maybe it's not that great a build, I dunno. But for sure, it's a fun one to play

16 Smite/12 Inspiration

or

16 Smite/9 Inspiration/9 Heal/Divine

Depending on the focus being used, the attributes change. I know staffs are superior for the most part, but I cant be bothered with the fuss of acquiring perfect upgrades for them or going hunting for someone who will sell me the Ivor Helmhewer greens. I'll stick with my collectors smiting rod and my healing ankh what I found with +26 health and armour +6 Vs Plants... Oh Yessss

By the way, the same build being run by two or more Mo/Me but with added arcane mimicry is superb fun. Pretty much constant threat of knockdown is very nice...

EDIT: I don't often PvP, so I cant comment on that.

EDIT No2: I just noticed that Theus just stated that there are no strength based shields available from collectors. Now, I'm happy to tell you Theus, that there is indeed now a strength based shield collector: The +60/-3 hexed shield available from the collector outside of Camp Rankor is req 9 Strength, so your prayers have been answered, friend. I dont know if it has always been strength, but it certainly is now.

Cymboric Treewalker

Cymboric Treewalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Imperial Palace - Cantha

[SFK] Sacred Forge Knights (founder)

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.Ichigo
No collectors or greens anyways.
They need beastmastery staffs and focuses too.

Marodac Evilbane

Marodac Evilbane

Site Contributor

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

Rite of Passage

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymboric Treewalker
They need beastmastery staffs and focuses too.
Quoted for truth.

Can't wait to get my hands on those. Maybe as a new green when they nerf/adjust the next farming area?

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Uhm, why? From memory, beastmaster skills don't take that much energy, do they?

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
Uhm, why? From memory, beastmaster skills don't take that much energy, do they?
To be a good beastmaster you need 16 points into beastmastery,which in turn only leaves a few points to put into either Expertise or Marksmanship, or both.

Which is really constraining since most of your skill bar will be consisting of pet skills.

David Lionmaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

above the floor and below the celing

Fortunes Favored

Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
Uhm, why? From memory, beastmaster skills don't take that much energy, do they?
Its not really the energy, but as a beastmaster, you have 16 beastmastery, and you usually want to put points into expertise and one of your secondary atributes, leaving you with no points in marksmanship, making a bow useless. I use a smiting staff for my pvp beastmaster. The staff makes it so I have plenty of energy to cast balth aura whenever it recharges, while spamming my pet attacks.

LouAl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Slightly off topic:

Why are there no Fast Casting req items?
There are items that req for all the other primary attributes (expertise? not sure on that one)

There is even a Kole's Gauntlet (I think that's the one) that has soul reaping as a req. There aren't even any skills in soul reaping. At least in Fast Casting there is 1 skill.

If I am wrong and there are some FC req items out there please tell me where to find them.

sorry for the off-topic rant

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LouAl
Slightly off topic:

Why are there no Fast Casting req items?
There are items that req for all the other primary attributes (expertise? not sure on that one)

There is even a Kole's Gauntlet (I think that's the one) that has soul reaping as a req. There aren't even any skills in soul reaping. At least in Fast Casting there is 1 skill.

If I am wrong and there are some FC req items out there please tell me where to find them.

sorry for the off-topic rant
For Fast casting there is a collecter that has a fast casting req item.

For Kole's Gauntlet there is going to be NEW soul reaping skills in C2.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Sorry, my bad. I didn't read the info from the links, so I guess that's where I missed some info.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

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I know your pain, my axe/smite warrior never went ahead ><