21 Mar 2006 at 23:34 - 8
First of all, thanks for all of the input
Now lets get back to the build
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A: no condition removal for your team
B: no hex removal for your team
C: Phys resistance is useless on any team with an ele, and if you accidentally DO use it on a team with an ele, that ele will destroy you.
D: Vengence... I don't even need to go into the many reasons not to bring that.
E: You didn't once mention a 2nd or 3rd weapon set, for extra energy and energy hiding (from edenial.) both of these would be essential against decent teams.
F: Major + Sup vigor doesn't stack...
G: Only 12 divine is not really enough healing for a boon prot.
H: What do you do against mesmers? When a mesmer strips your enchantments and then backfires you, how are you going to heal?
Ok, first of all, it is impossible to make a build that has no counters. Its balance.
Hex and Condition removal for others is not that important. If u do both, they will take out 2 spells from ur bar. Thats too much in my opinion
Physical Resistance pwns. If it is that bad, wear full wanderers, u will make up the missing protection. And, if there is not a war, or ranger on the whole oposing team, its not like u have to use it...
Are u sure Sup, Major and Minor don`t stack?
Vengance IS good. Having a short Multi-Res that brings them up @ full energy is awesome. Yea, it can be removed, but this is a CA build.
12 Divine is arguable
I think Mesmers in CA, and TA who bring 2 enchantment removers are pretty rare...
21 Mar 2006 at 23:41 - 9
Superior, major and minor runes of ANYTHING do not stack...
the only stacking that occurs is the -75 hp from superior rrunes.
If you did not already know that Superior, Major and Minor Vigor runes do not stack, then you have no business telling sno that his advice is moot. On every single point he made, he is correct. Cept about divine. 12 is just fine for a PROPER boon prot build...
enjoy.
21 Mar 2006 at 23:46 - 10
I never said his advice is "moot".
Its his opinion and I respect it.
22 Mar 2006 at 09:57 - 11
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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
If you did not already know that Superior, Major and Minor Vigor runes do not stack, then you have no business telling sno that his advice is moot.
Except the OP never asked for advice...
It happens in nearly every build thread, though, so nothing new.
22 Mar 2006 at 11:35 - 12
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Originally Posted by Asrial
Except the OP never asked for advice...
When you post up a build for discussion in a forum, you should expect to get it. It would be all very nice and pleasant if everyone got told how wonderfull their trash was, but it wouldn't help them much.
22 Mar 2006 at 13:53 - 13
You might last against half-ass teams, but when you get to TA, you'll probably get smashed.
Constructivity>Honeyed bullshit.
22 Mar 2006 at 14:16 - 14
LOL @ Jr.
Although you are so true. What is the point of posting a build if you are not wanting to improve it in some way?
22 Mar 2006 at 21:50 - 15
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Originally Posted by Serra Knightfang
Although you are so true. What is the point of posting a build if you are not wanting to improve it in some way?
I think his reason was to see if anyone would say "dude, that build rox!" so that he could have a moment of happiness 
If it works for him, and he didn't specifically ask for advice about it, why would anyone feel the need to smack it down?
It's like some people have the crusade of making sure that everyone who reads this area of the forums is marshalled into the elite PvP'er area. Make sure they aren't reading the junk and only what we feel is elite. While it's a nice idea, it just isn't going to work on a game this massive and through the methods used.
If these were the iQ forums, by all means, elite topics only.
22 Mar 2006 at 21:54 - 16
..and just to point something out here..
In the first reply, this is the order of events from sno: you're wrong; here's a suggestion not relevant to the build; I'm better than you; here's why your build sucks.
It's not what you say but how others perceive what you say.
22 Mar 2006 at 22:32 - 17
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Originally Posted by Dodo The Extinct
I think Mesmers in CA, and TA who bring 2 enchantment removers are pretty rare...
Then you havent been encountering enough decent mesmers...all my mesmer builds have 1-2 enchantment removals, usually 2.
23 Mar 2006 at 00:04 - 18
I posted the build to help people out, not to get smashed by people who think it sucks.
Thanks but no thanks
23 Mar 2006 at 00:19 - 19
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Originally Posted by Dodo The Extinct
I posted the build to help people out, not to get smashed by people who think it sucks.
Did it occur to you that when someone posts a bad build, pointing out why it sucks is helping people out? If nobody ever denounced bad builds, people might read them and think they were good. That's hardly helpful.
23 Mar 2006 at 00:20 - 20
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Originally Posted by Dodo The Extinct
Ok, first of all, it is impossible to make a build that has no counters. Its balance.
Well, there is balance and then there is just a plain lack of experience and intuition for your own build. I've played the Mo/Me many times, it's what I started with and like any Monk build you gotta be prepared for anything. Your build literally has a hole in it for every skill on your bar. Vengeance is a prime example, you're a monk and you're using Vengeance to keep another mate alive for 30 seconds, how thoughtful of you.
Physical Resistance is gonna get your head smashed in super easy as well... spiker's just gonna see you throw that up and slam you with Ignite/Kindle and Dual Shot not to mention that if a warrior swaps to an ele weapon like JR said and busts out Frenzy... your ass is gonna be hacked up in no time.
As for the mesmer bit... I don't think I've seen a mesmer yet that wasn't packing 2 removal spells on their bar in any of the arenas... it's practically a standard. As someone else stated, you gotta be new if you think all those Vigor runes are actually doing something for you... i'm amazed I don't see Rebirth on the skillbar...
-j
p.s. nice build Phoenix Arrows, that's definitely a more solid build.
23 Mar 2006 at 00:50 - 21
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Did it occur to you that when someone posts a bad build, pointing out why it sucks is helping people out? If nobody ever denounced bad builds, people might read them and think they were good. That's hardly helpful.
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