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GodAm

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N/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 02:44 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Iowerth

I would think barbed weapon + sig of agony + plague sending back and forth between a group of 4, would cause bleeding on the last person for quite some time ... like this:

group of 4 in unrated GvG (2 on one team, 2 on the other) persons 1 and 3 are on the same team, persons 2 and 4 on the other.

Person 1: signet of agony, plague sending to person 2
person 2: plague sending to person 3
person 3: plague sending to person 4
person 4: "I have bleeding on me!" ?

Person 4 is your last person, you're only applying it to him once ... do I win? damnit if i'm not still at work ^_^

But will person 4's bleeding stay on for 3 minutes?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klmpee

GodAm read post 24 and 29.. am i correct with my assumption on what you said?

I said it can only be applied once, so that means that doing a 21 second sever artery, then hunters shot at 20 seconds is hax0ring

Klmpee

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21 Mar 2006 at 02:49 - 42

but ur doing it on a target that isnt the target for the bleeding >.< fevered dreams will INDIRECTLY reapply (yea yea i know... you cant reapply but you still havent answered the question about reapplying it throught fevered dreams) it to the true target that is going to have 3 mins of bleeding..

so on to guess two..

Martyr maybe the answer to this all.. have to targets on a team.. one that is not. have the target that isnt on the team apply bleeding to a class of anytype. a /monk of any type uses maytyr to take bleeding off the person... but yet agian.. if they hit martyr agian its reapplying.. everthing leads back to reapplying doesnt it -.-

Mustache Mayhem

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BEN

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21 Mar 2006 at 02:49 - 43

hehe still cheating but fevered dreams the dummies on isle of the nameless with a r/me and then have your pet keep lunging it for bleeding- ugent your health.. that's 3 skills and you technically never applied bleeding to yourself

anyone come up with something legit- I'd like to see the real deal

Klmpee

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21 Mar 2006 at 02:58 - 44

i now think this is one big joke to make everyones head hurt so he can get the last laugh and call us all noobs and laugh at our faces

hey i would do that

GodAm

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N/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 02:58 - 45

You don't need an elite skill or epidemic. There hows that? ^^

Lord Iowerth

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R/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 02:58 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodAm

But will person 4's bleeding stay on for 3 minutes?

Unknown, but I just realized awaken (or levels in blood magic) doesn't increase the duration of the bleeding, only the damage ...

I'm going to try some math here, everyone brace yourselves!

Sig of agony = base 25s duration
holding a barbed weapon increases by .33 (or 8.25 seconds)
that's 33.25 seconds on you.
Plague touch/sending adds another .33 to next target (.33 * 33.25 = ~11)
44.25 seconds of bleeding on target 2.
2-3 adds another 14 seconds, that's 58 seconds total
19 more seconds for the last round is 1:17 ... still not 3 mins

Unless my math is flawed, which it most likely is, but not by too much I don't think.

EDIT: now i'm going home from work, you people figure it out by the time I get home, or you'll drive me nuts

And Klmpee: Martyr doesn't stack duration

Takkun

Frost Gate Guardian

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21 Mar 2006 at 02:59 - 47

guys having an extremely long bleeding time is easy as hell, its called: Melandru's Arrows [Elite]

Basically you hit one guy with this preperation and it automatically causes a target to bleed. Then when its about to run out you prepare it again and hit the target. Rinse and repeat. This tactic can make bleeding last as long as you want it to, therefore reaches your requirements.

So yea my In Game Name is Takkun Atomsk, send me my plat and such.

Lord Iowerth

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R/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 03:02 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takkun

guys having an extremely long bleeding time is easy as hell, its called: Melandru's Arrows [Elite]

Basically you hit one guy with this preperation and it automatically causes a target to bleed. Then when its about to run out you prepare it again and hit the target. Rinse and repeat. This tactic can make bleeding last as long as you want it to, therefore reaches your requirements.

So yea my In Game Name is Takkun Atomsk, send me my plat and such.

That is re-applying it each time your arrow hits. kthxbye.

GodAm

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N/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 03:03 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Iowerth

Unknown, but I just realized awaken (or levels in blood magic) doesn't increase the duration of the bleeding, only the damage ...

I'm going to try some math here, everyone brace yourselves!

Sig of agony = base 25s duration
holding a barbed weapon increases by .33 (or 8.25 seconds)
that's 33.25 seconds on you.
Plague touch/sending adds another .33 to next target (.33 * 33.25 = ~11)
44.25 seconds of bleeding on target 2.
2-3 adds another 14 seconds, that's 58 seconds total
19 more seconds for the last round is 1:17 ... still not 3 mins

Unless my math is flawed, which it most likely is, but not by too much I don't think.

EDIT: now i'm going home from work, you people figure it out by the time I get home, or you'll drive me nuts

And Klmpee: Martyr doesn't stack duration

You are uber close.

Takkun you better be on Fi vent for me to come and yell at you for being stupid.

aB-

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21 Mar 2006 at 03:16 - 50

I suppose player one uses signet of agony on himself while holding a barbed weapon. He uses plauge touch/sending to transfer his bleeding to player 2. When player 1's bleeding ends, player 2 uses plauge touch/sending to transfer it back to player 1, increasing the duration. Player 1 then sends the bleeding back to player 2, and this cycle continues until the duration is longer than 3 minutes. At this point, the player with bleeding then uses plauge touch/sending to player 3, making the bleeding last for 3 minutes.

Here is some math:

Signet of Agony: 25s duration
Holding a barbed weapon: 33.25s
Plauge touch/sending to Player 2: 44.25s
Plauge touch/sending to Player 1: 58.85s
Plauge touch/sending to Player 2: 78.27s
Plague touch/sending to Player 1: 104.10s
Plauge touch/sending to Player 2: 138.46s
Plauge touch/sending to Player 3: 184.15s

GodAm

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N/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 03:16 - 51

Tigris was REALLY close. But he was still wrong. He gets 10 plat for coming really close. He was wrong by one skill ^^.

So now I need to farm 10 plat, 25 plat is still the pot :O

btw, level 16 sword + Sever lasts longer than Signet of agony.

GodAm

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N/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 03:19 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by aB-

I suppose player one uses signet of agony on himself while holding a barbed weapon. He uses plauge touch/sending to transfer his bleeding to player 2. When player 1's bleeding ends, player 2 uses plauge touch/sending to transfer it back to player 1, increasing the duration. Player 1 then sends the bleeding back to player 2, and this cycle continues until the duration is longer than 3 minutes. At this point, the player with bleeding then uses plauge touch/sending to player 3, making the bleeding last for 3 minutes.

Wow gfg, you winnor.

Except, it doesn't work with Plague Sending, because it is a spell.

Let's see some IGN happening.

aB-

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21 Mar 2006 at 03:22 - 53

Send the gold to Lord Iowerth. He did all the thinking. All I did was step in at the last second and add a small step to his procedure.

Ninetail Trickster

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A pleasant place that needs more rain. T_T

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21 Mar 2006 at 03:23 - 54

Minion Master makes lotsa' minions.
Group of warriors use Sever on said minions.
Minion Master uses Verata's Sacrifice.

Maybe?

Edit: Curses. Nicely done. xD
Edit 2: Freaking undead cannot bleed. >_<

xRustyx

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21 Mar 2006 at 03:30 - 55

AND THE WINNER IS: Me.

Mercury Angel

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21 Mar 2006 at 03:35 - 56

As a note, you only need 2 people for an infinite bleed ally-side;

Person 1 uses Signet of Agony
*Person 2 uses Draw Conditions
Person 1 uses Draw Conditions*
*Cycle parts in the asterisks indefinitely

It's not because Barbed weapon extends it, it doesn't do that at all. What happens is that Draw Conditions appears to be bugged, and it resets the condition timer each time it's passed on. So, as long as you use Draw Conditions before the timer runs out, it'll go on forever.

This is observable easily on the Isle of the Nameless with Burning Condition.
User Martyr to grab the burning ONCE. Then play 'hot' potato (a pun!

) and pass Burning back and forth. It'll never run out. Also, as a thing to note, you'll get all of the other conditions from your student allies as well, because for some strange reason, it counts them as in your party for the purpose of martyr. Go figure.

GodAm

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N/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 03:39 - 57

Draw conditions was fixed. The barbed hilt is key.

Mercury Angel

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21 Mar 2006 at 03:41 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodAm

Draw conditions was fixed. The barbed hilt is key.

Test it and see for yourself. You can pass on that short 3 second burning indefinitely. Unless there's a magical invisible burning extension mod, I'm afraid that explanation won't cut it there.
Edit: Note, I'm talking about Martyr just to get the initial burning, and Draw Conditions to juggle the condition.

Kate Bloodspirit

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21 Mar 2006 at 03:56 - 59

So I went to Island of Nameless with my Monk with max mending on and spamming Healing Breeze as needed, while standing next to the master of bleeding for about 5 minutes, yes, you heard right, 5 minutes! 300 seconds, Bleeding!!!

Did I win yet? Where do I cash my price?

stickyballs

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21 Mar 2006 at 04:31 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate Bloodspirit

So I went to Island of Nameless with my Monk with max mending on and spamming Healing Breeze as needed, while standing next to the master of bleeding for about 5 minutes, yes, you heard right, 5 minutes! 300 seconds, Bleeding!!!

Did I win yet? Where do I cash my price?

LOL, are you trying to be funny? He means bleeding w/ different skills.

Alina Valor

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R/Me

21 Mar 2006 at 04:34 - 61

Heres my question, you said 3 people are needed to do this, you also said 4 is ok, but 4 max. Now, is this all on the same team? There isnt really any easy way to get 2 vs 2 going on, so this is 3-4 people on the same team, doing this in isle of the nameless?

Soul Shaker

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21 Mar 2006 at 04:36 - 62

now, if only you could bring proof of that...

GodAm

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N/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 04:44 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alina Valor

Heres my question, you said 3 people are needed to do this, you also said 4 is ok, but 4 max. Now, is this all on the same team? There isnt really any easy way to get 2 vs 2 going on, so this is 3-4 people on the same team, doing this in isle of the nameless?

I don't care how you do it, just do it, but we already have a winner.

Alina Valor

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R/Me

21 Mar 2006 at 04:47 - 64

well then spill the beans.

Kate Bloodspirit

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21 Mar 2006 at 04:48 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyballs

LOL, are you trying to be funny? He means bleeding w/ different skills.

Hahahaha, yeah, I was just trying to be funny =P

Lord Iowerth

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R/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 04:50 - 66

So a necro, a warrior, and a monk walk into a bar ...

no, wait, wrong thread.

*ahem*

I think what ab- was saying has merit, although with your hint it would be a sword warrior with sever artery and barbed hilt, with necro secondary using plague touch, bouncing the bleeding back and forth with another character with a necro class ... until it's long enough, and then plague touching the third person (who has some self-heal, such as heal sig, etc) or hell just mending will stave off bleeding indefinitely ...

Player 1 uses sever artery on player 2
player 2 uses plague touch on player 1 (while holding barbed sword)
player 1 says "zomg you noob" and plague touches player 2 again

They banter it back and forth for as long as they can bother, and then player 1 or two (whoever is not on player 3's team) sends it to player 3. Although, this doesn't fit your pattern of needing *at least* 3 people (because technically wherever it stopped last could still have the same duration)

*shrug* that's as close as I can come up with, hope this can help someone out (I don't need the 25 plat, by the way ... I just love puzzles

)

GodAm

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N/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 05:20 - 67

Well you did win Iowerth, and since you don't want the money, I'll keep it.

I thought it was fun though, good game guys, good game.

TwilightOblivion

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E/Me

21 Mar 2006 at 05:20 - 68

i know a way that only involves one character, but i dont have fraps, so i would have to show you in-game how its done. Its actually quite simple really, if you know what to do.

EDIT: i read through the rest of this and moustache already brought it up, stand next to the bleeding guy on isle of the nameless

Manic Smile

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21 Mar 2006 at 05:27 - 69

Nec/War

Barbed Sword of Swordsmanship

Desperate Blow = 25(+8.25)
Echo = 0
Sever Atery = ~19
Echoed Sever Atery = 26-27(+8.58-8.91)
Sever Atery = 26-27(+8.58-8.91)
Signent of Agony + Plague Touch = ~24 seconds
To the Limit = 0
Sever Atery=26-27(+8.58-8.91)
Signent of Agony + Plague Touch = ~24 seconds
To the Limit=0
Sever Atery=26-27(+8.58-8.91)

>180 seconds

biggest problem would be keeping the apponent alive to do this...but 7 HA monks would work for sure

Hamstein

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21 Mar 2006 at 05:33 - 70

Um a small flaw in your theory Manic =p
7HA monks is too many he said 4 max in group

Minus Sign

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Mo/N

21 Mar 2006 at 06:01 - 71

Edit: nvm; reapply bleed is not allowed.

anti_z3r0

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21 Mar 2006 at 06:05 - 72

Manic, you're also reapplying the bleeding condition. Like what has been said 5 million times before in this thread: bleeding cannot be reapplied.

The original contest was to do something that once you applied bleeding to someone/something it would stay on for 300 seconds without anyone casting anything on them besides something to heal them (which will not interfere with the duration of the bleeding). No one can attack them or use any sort of offensive spell on them.

Oh, and technically standing next to the student of bleeding is reapplying the condition everyone so often, similar to walking through the lava on the crag map.

Here is the shortest, least complicated answer:
2 W/N, both have a barbed sword, sever artery, and plague touch.
Keep a mending on both warriors so they will not take damage from bleeding.
BiP the warriors at all times so they don't run out of energy.
Warrior 1 sever's warrior 2.
Warrior 2 instantly plague touches warrior 1.
Warrior 1 instantly plague touches warrior 2.
Warrior 2 instantly plague touches warrior 1.
etc...
The barbed haft will continue to increase the duration of the bleeding being passed between the two warriors. I calculated it out and after 7 plague touches the bleeding will have a duration of approximately 191.41 seconds. (by the way, 13 plague touches will result in a 1,059.46 second bleeding)

Then you can plague touch the bleeding onto someone who doesn't have condition removal and sit to watch them bleed for 180 seconds, or however long you want them to bleed.

xRustyx

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21 Mar 2006 at 06:10 - 73

I am giving out 50k to the first person that PMs me in game.

My name is Fnld Vindexus, or my second account, Sir Bruce of Oxford.

Tarkin

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W/N

21 Mar 2006 at 06:20 - 74

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

Go to The Underworld, let 3 Bladed Aatxe atack you, they will use Sever Artery or Deadly Riposte... remenber dont kill them... a 55monk can do this alone...

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

Manic Smile

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21 Mar 2006 at 06:28 - 75

sorry my bad just kinda got carried away...cool read all around though

Tarkin

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21 Mar 2006 at 06:38 - 76

aaaaaaaaaaa

Go port sledge... clean some patrols... dont kill the Grawl Crones, pull 3 of them, with a ranger use melandrus arrows, they will give back to you with Plague Signet... call some friends to hepl you soem to heal you, some to use heal area to heal the grawl crones...

aaaaaaaaaa

Or you can find any decent necro boss with Plague Signet, Plague Sending or Plague Touch, simple use any Bleeding skill and the boss will give back to you... call some friends to help you....

Lord Iowerth

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R/Mo

21 Mar 2006 at 08:38 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by GodAm

Well you did win Iowerth, and since you don't want the money, I'll keep it.

I thought it was fun though, good game guys, good game.

Buy yourself something nice, GodAm

GG

Asrial

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Mo/E

21 Mar 2006 at 09:34 - 78

Interesting use of skills

Taoh

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21 Mar 2006 at 12:17 - 79

umm does that barbed thingie work with "martyr"?

If 2x "Martyrs" transfering a "self bleeding" forth and back untill it reaches high enough duration, and end up transfering it to the target enemy with plague touch.