Who is the scammer here? (eternal shield issue)

Alcazanar

Alcazanar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon (swe)

Desert Flame [DF]

W/N

well i bought a unid eternal shield from a guy (req 10) max
and he said well for 20k and you will get it and
i say yeah of course...

trade

then i id it +30hp -5dmg 19%chance
so he asked me what the stats were
and i told him.
then hell broke loose
he said that he regret the trade
and want his shield back and
i get even 25k back
i went like wtf NO
then he said:

I KNOW GAILE GREY AND I GOT 15k ARMOR F*CK YOU GIVE MY SHIELD
BACK CUS ITS OBIOUSLY WORTH MORE!!!

i got fissure.. then i put him on *ignore*
could i possibly be the scammer here?
what do you think?
can i sleep at night?

just wanted to point out that he was a W/Mo


*UPDATE*
i removed him from ignore list and next time he logged in it
went like 5 min then i get this pm...

YOU MOTHER F*CKER STOP IGNORE ME FAGET GIVE MY SHIELD BACK
I F*CKING KILL YOU IF YOU GET HERE!!!

i said chillout d*ckhead you lost the gamble and thats not my fault

I WILL F*CKING TELL ADMIN AND REPORT YOU YEAH HAHA AND
GAILE GREY WILL BAN YOU! F*CK YOU!!

*ignore*
he acturally gave me headache that day

Lateralus

Lateralus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Sleep asured that you did nothing wrong. This guy is a dumbass, and lost a gamble.

Queen Ce Nedra

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Buying and selling unid'd is obviously a crap shoot (unless you are one of those who can figure out what it is mathematically), if you do so, and loose out some how..it is entirely your fault for taking that chance, so in my opinion no one is the scammer in this situation...the other guy is just an idiot, and a sore looser/cry baby/worst type of player. I think you can sleep with a good conscience tonight =P

Minus Sign

Minus Sign

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/N

No; you're not a scammer. He's just an idiot.

studentochaos

studentochaos

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Seeking atm

N/

You did nothing wrong. You were gambling. He was gambling. You won big, he lost big.

However, I like that he offered 25k. I am sure that extra 5k made you pause and consider the several hundred thousand gold item a worthy trade.

Bob of Maple Ave

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Unforgiven Servants

E/N

<~~~~~totally in agreement with everyone else--good going on the shield, (lucky mofo)

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

That guy is a reject, and since you said he was a W/Mo he is probably one of those bad players too! LOL

ophidian409

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/R

I can't believe you can buy a +30hp shield since almost every unid eternal shield seller knows the test trick. you are extremely lucky

Leonof

Leonof

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/Me

wow gratz on that shield

and yea that guy is a dumbass. If anything you should sleep soundly knowing you just made some random idiot miserable regretting that trade lol

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

It really put me off that you responded to his "i hav 15k armor lolz" with "lolz i haf fissure armor". Other than that, congratulations on the great find.

Sabe

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Project Teamwork [ptw]

Mo/

Is the test trick going outside in a town and seeing if your health goes up?

Never done it just wondered is that how you test?

Raif

Raif

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ireland

N/W

if i buy unid stuff and the trader wants to know what i got from it, i will never give them the 'real mods' due to idiots like the aforementioned above. I usually just say a small health mod or crippled or some such and then ignore the smug tells from said trader .. usually saves more hassle.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabe
Is the test trick going outside in a town and seeing if your health goes up?

Never done it just wondered is that how you test?
Yeah. And if its a weapon, to wack things with it untill you figure out what the damage mod is (if there is one. stupid poisoner's axes)

Alcazanar

Alcazanar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon (swe)

Desert Flame [DF]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by ophidian409
I can't believe you can buy a +30hp shield since almost every unid eternal shield seller knows the test trick. you are extremely lucky
well i guess i am lucky me earning big gold on 20k ;P

Young Hero

Young Hero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mi

N/Mo

Can't believe that guy wanted the shield back.This had to be a little bratty kid,man that pisses me off and I had nothing to do with either of ya

Congrats on the nice Eternal,you gambled by buying unid and won

Alcazanar

Alcazanar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon (swe)

Desert Flame [DF]

W/N

*bump*
see the continue those who has been
here in this thread before

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Always say +2 armor vs plants. They laugh, you chuckle inside.

FalconDance

FalconDance

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

...deep within the sylvan splendor...

Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]

You are not a scammer. You bought and paid for a shield as the terms were advertised. Great for you, he took the gamble and lost. ::shrugs::

So what if the guy supposedly knows Gaile? Can't we all claim the same here to some degree?

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Isn't there something in the EULA that suspends people to threaten those of a ban or suspend from claiming to have inside sources of the game . Screenshot next time bet ya it would be fun.

19% chance of what?

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

He gambled, you won, wear that shield w/ pride. Nothing to feel guilty about.

He thinks that intimidation will just make you give it back he can't do nothing but shout at you.
Unless Gaile talks to you in purple text saying, hey I know... (and I don't believe him for a sec nor even if he did, and I don't think Gaile would abuse her power like that.)

If he keeps it up, report him to anet for harassment.

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

you are obviously a scammer. to clear things up, just give the shield to me.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Congatulations on a lucky find. As to the sore loser, I'd have taken a screen shot and reported him.

Alcazanar

Alcazanar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon (swe)

Desert Flame [DF]

W/N

erm just a question is it illegal to say his
name here or is it just your own moral?

ImPsyco

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Lords of the SITH

W/Mo

Always a gamble thats why i never do it

I also bought a req 10 gold eternal shield for 6k gold and 6 Candy Canes during the christmas event. I iden it and the mods were +39hp enchant -2 dmg whcih is worth more than the bought price and then the trader gal wants to buy the shield back for 20k lol.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcazanar
erm just a question is it illegal to say his
name here or is it just your own moral?
It's to prevent false accusations or identity confusions. GJ on that shield

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Selling and buying unid is risky, sometime you get lucky and get perfect/near perfect mods, other time, you get crappy items. This guy is just angry that he screwed himself with 25k when that shield is worth at least 100k+ now.

You can sleep tight, in fact, if you took a screen shot of that, you can report him to A-Net for verbal abuse!

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcazanar
I KNOW GAILE GREY AND I GOT 15k ARMOR F*CK YOU GIVE MY SHIELD
BACK CUS ITS OBIOUSLY WORTH MORE!!!

I WILL F*CKING TELL ADMIN AND REPORT YOU YEAH HAHA AND
GAILE GREY WILL BAN YOU! F*CK YOU!!
The most hilarious lines I've ever read. lol, I dunno if you have any screenies of the conversation, but if you do, I think the folks at Anet would love to show him that he doesn't know Gaile.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Don't worry, the worst this idiot can do is ban himself if he took that screenshot to A-Net. The trade log would showed that both you and him agree on a fair trade and there is no such rules to trade things back to the original owner.

Alcazanar

Alcazanar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon (swe)

Desert Flame [DF]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diabloâ„¢
The most hilarious lines I've ever read. lol, I dunno if you have any screenies of the conversation, but if you do, I think the folks at Anet would love to show him that he doesn't know Gaile.
i would laugh if read it too lol but that dude really got
to my nerves a shame i didnt took snapshot that
would be fun to show gaile grey herself :P

DSey

DSey

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/Mo

got a pic of the shield?

Alcazanar

Alcazanar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cavalon (swe)

Desert Flame [DF]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by DSey
got a pic of the shield?
no soz i sold it in game for 280k
and i know i could have gotten
more so dont even post that thx

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

Nope, you did nothing wrong... except sell the shield before I ever knew about it! I was ready to go 400k+ on it

Anyway, you did everything fine. ANET employee name-dropping always get people laughed at for obvious reasons... can they cry "MOMMY" any louder?

Jiao Yang

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

Btw.. as far as I know, using the threat that you know someone from Anet or NCsoft to manipulate someone in game is a very serious offence. Next time he starts having a go and refers to Gaile Grey, take an SS and he will be banned for sure.

Grasping Darkness

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
you are obviously a scammer. to clear things up, just give the shield to me.
/agree

fyi you can equip items and see what they have...for +dmg mods just compare hit dmg vs clean similar weapon . i never scam muahaha

Toffin

Toffin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Camp Rankor

No Diplomacy Only War [nDoW] No Diplomacy Only Slackers [nDoS] Looking for an Alliance.

W/

If it was me that ID'd it and saw it I would of spammed in the trade when he was there and then sold it to whoever wanted it.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toffin
If it was me that ID'd it and saw it I would of spammed in the trade when he was there and then sold it to whoever wanted it.
Now that's what I call Justice!

To OP: Congrats on your incredible luck!

Fist_of_God

Fist_of_God

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

I agree with the majority here. Would you be so kind as to pm me the name of this idiot. I would like to pm him saying, "Hey, I heard you have a shields for sale worth 1 million plat,.. eternal shields, my friends say you sell them for 20k?"...lol he would be so pissed.

DeathDealer

DeathDealer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dark Side of the Moon....and I'm goin' back real soon

Guildless

R/Mo

Your gain..his loss...at his expense...nothing wrong happened here except his attitude because of your luck...good ID by the way..grats!

EDIT: Fist of God, That would be hilarious...he would be furious!!!

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
Isn't there something in the EULA that suspends people to threaten those of a ban or suspend from claiming to have inside sources of the game . Screenshot next time bet ya it would be fun.

19% chance of what?
19% of the -5 dmg, I'm assuming. Nice job on the trade, very luck ID I envy you, rofl.