just a real quick question. Ive read literally the entire thread on presearing lvling, and although im not intending on creating a high lvl pre searing character, i do wish to take advantage of some of the aspects of pre searing lvling. My main concern is that of pets, if i take the time and effort to get a half decent pet, am i going to lose this as soon as i leave pre searing?
Im only asking this because ive played the game for roughly 2 and a half hours, so be nice.
Pre Searing Pets?
I D E V I A N C E I
JR
No, it stays with you 
Pet's only dissapear when you talk to certain NPC characters that deal with them. They will seem to dissapear if you take Charm Animal off your skill bar, but as soon as you put it back on you get your pet back.
Pet's only dissapear when you talk to certain NPC characters that deal with them. They will seem to dissapear if you take Charm Animal off your skill bar, but as soon as you put it back on you get your pet back.
Olfin Bedwere
It`s been a while since I played a Ranger through to Post and that was just for dyes, I deleted him after but if I remember right you keep your pet.
I D E V I A N C E I
good i had hoped so. wolf or bear? wolves are clearly hot stuff.
Olfin Bedwere
I always go with the pig. If I had to choose between Wolf or Bear (assuming you can still charm a bear and have some help and it ain`t easy) I`d go Wolf, Bears are too slow.
I D E V I A N C E I
ladies love the wolves. i got monks for taming bears, but yeah, slow......
killer pig? now thats messed up.
killer pig? now thats messed up.
Former Ruling
I am amazed at the variety of pets they let you have in pre. I gues this is because they dont want you to feel you have to swith in post.
So you get to charm almost every pet in pre, except some area specific stuff like Dune Lizard and the UW spider.
So you get to charm almost every pet in pre, except some area specific stuff like Dune Lizard and the UW spider.
boxterduke
Also keep in mind that if your secondary is ranger and have a pet and then later on change to a different profession, once you go back to ranger you will still have your pet.
wsmcasey
I don't remember seeing any wolves in pre-searing, but I might be wrong. The bears in pre-searing cannot be charmed unless you have a partner that takes the aggro while your charming because of the interupts.
Silent Kitty
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I don't remember seeing any wolves in pre-searing, but I might be wrong. .
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D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...
and bears have interupts? I doubt it
unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals...
Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post...
and bears have interupts? I doubt it
unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals...
Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post...
Silent Kitty
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Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...
and bears have interupts? I doubt it unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals... Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post... |
Jenosavel
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Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...
and bears have interupts? I doubt it unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals... Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post... |
You can charm the level 2 wolves and the level 5 bears. The bears are a royal pain in the rear to charm because of their skill Charm Break, but it is possible. It involves the painfully precise timing of a team of 2 so that the bear is out of range to break your charm while you're charming it (however, 'out of range' means it'll be out of range for your charm too, hence the painful timing of the thing).
In the Pet Guide thread, Epinephrine has screens of the one he got when testing the above method. Somewhere in the thread the method is described more precisely, I believe. It works but really isn't worth the trouble, since the bear is the worst pet available.
wsmcasey
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Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...
and bears have interupts? I doubt it unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals... Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post... |
Yes, the bears in Pre-searing interupt your action when trying to charm. And since charm animal is a long cast it gives the bear a huge window to interupt your action. It cannot be done solo unless you find a way to aggro the bear from behind a wall or from on top of a cliff where it cant get to you.
Big_Iron
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Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...
and bears have interupts? I doubt it unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals... Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post... |
EiS
what about that small moss spider in pre most of them are red dots but i alwas find one that is a green dot is that spider chamable or is only the UW spider charmable
Goats17
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Originally Posted by Olfin Bedwere
I always go with the pig. If I had to choose between Wolf or Bear (assuming you can still charm a bear and have some help and it ain`t easy) I`d go Wolf, Bears are too slow.
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Jenosavel
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Originally Posted by Goats17
Not true, there is a pet guide somewhere on this site thats peoves that bears actually attack faster than all the other pets. Anet balanced this out by giving them the Brutal Mauling skill, adds no damage, but slows their attack.
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...wait... what? You weren't joking? ...oh. Sorry.
I assume that you're refering to this pet guide? Yeah... after rigorous testing it shows that the bear attacks slower than all other pets by a pretty wide margin (approximately 22%), even though it does the same damage per attack. Brutal Mauling slows down the attack rate from what would be a normal attack rate leaving the bear pretty pathetic. Rumor has it that at some time before the release of the game, Brutal Mauling caused knock-down and therefore was balanced with the slower attack rate. After the removal of the knock-down effect, the attack itself was left. The result is one sad, sad bear.
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what about that small moss spider in pre most of them are red dots but i alwas find one that is a green dot is that spider chamable or is only the UW spider charmable
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VitisVinifera
I'll just throw this one thing in argument in favor of charming a bear:
they are great body blockers. If you deal in areas where there are choke points, a bear can take up a lot of space making it harder for enemiest to break through to you.
People who have farmed Tombs know this.
they are great body blockers. If you deal in areas where there are choke points, a bear can take up a lot of space making it harder for enemiest to break through to you.
People who have farmed Tombs know this.
EF2NYD
They all take up the same space so it doesn't really matter.
I D E V I A N C E I
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ok who wants to tell the guy that red dots cannot be charmed...
and bears have interupts? I doubt it unless theres somthing thats not mentioned in the manuals... Bears and wolfs can only be charmed in post... |
ARGH. stupid forum ate my nice long post! here it is in short:
1.got wolf
2.collecting "collectors" armour
3. can i wear necro? (2nd prof) - i have a feeling its no
4.leaving pre soon, aiming for lvl 7 when entering post - good bad?
Joh
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actually the first person in all the online games i have ever played to share my name. grats?
ARGH. stupid forum ate my nice long post! here it is in short: 1.got wolf 2.collecting "collectors" armour 3. can i wear necro? (2nd prof) - i have a feeling its no 4.leaving pre soon, aiming for lvl 7 when entering post - good bad? |
3. No. You can only wear primary profession armor. Same goes for runes (you'll encounter these post-searing).
4. First time I got a char thru, I got pissed for dieing so fast (ele at lvl 4). So I remade and didn't leave til lvl 8. Average seems to be lvl 6 though, so 7 doesn't sound too bad. (My monk left at lvl 2
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I D E V I A N C E I
argh the first two werent questions, just info, but because i cba to type all i had writen out again, i just shortened it.
couple more quests, and the collecters legs and im heading out!
couple more quests, and the collecters legs and im heading out!
mrbb
I like bears cuz they are cool looking! It is like those oger daggers that go for 10k gold with sucky stats.
Haggard
they go for that because theyre funny, not because theyre cool looking (though you can make it look like dual wielded daggers with them and a necro item)
Akbur the great
pre-searing pets suck, i just stuck with a bear. then i got my spider named Mittens :P
Manic Smile
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what about that small moss spider in pre most of them are red dots but i alwas find one that is a green dot is that spider chamable or is only the UW spider charmable
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Taliman
Umm I got a spider from Baradin's Estate when I first started my Ranger, then decided I preferred the stalker. And to just correct something that was said earlier, the Animal Tamer is by Master Ranger Nente in Regent's Valley.
Age
I charmed a wolf in presearing and kept it with my W/R and I got another one close to Yaks for my R/N.I don't mind pets but they can be a pain but it is nice to take them into the CA.
Caldec
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pre-searing pets suck, i just stuck with a bear. then i got my spider named Mittens :P
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aww my spider is also named mittens :P you got elder or dire?
Y.T.
actually i'm rather confused - we were helping guildie to do missions with new char and i saw spider in the end of the wilds mission - its name was green, not red, it wasnt attacking and i was sure it's a bug. few days ago we were doing this mission for another guildie and i saw this spider with green name again. i've decided to test it took charm animal and tryed to charm it but it got killed too fast by minions... so now i'm not sure if it can be charmed or no.
it was a pretty big spider tho... 3 times bigger than uw spider i think.
it was a pretty big spider tho... 3 times bigger than uw spider i think.
shmek
YEEEEESHHH.... people love to prattle on and ON and ON...
The first reply answered the question and yet a ton of posts after... and now I am prattling I suppose... AHHHCCCKKK!!!!
.........yeeaaAAAEEESSH
The first reply answered the question and yet a ton of posts after... and now I am prattling I suppose... AHHHCCCKKK!!!!
.........yeeaaAAAEEESSH
Grego
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No, it stays with you
They will seem to dissapear if you take Charm Animal off your skill bar, but as soon as you put it back on you get your pet back. |
I've been pulling my hair out for days. I just went through the searing and swore I had seen my wolf afterwards...then I read this and remembered I had added a different Ranger skill in place of Charm Animal.
He's back now!
quickmonty
And to think that this thread was dead for almost a year
Grego
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And to think that this thread was dead for almost a year
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...it also shows that I can use the search function.
mrmango
And also that some people still use forums but not wiki. :P
good to know I guess
good to know I guess
Biostem
Get a strider... their eggs are tasty!
Kerwyn Nasilan
Major thread necro!
Btw does Brutal Mauling activate Paragon chants cause somone with a bear in Tombs claimmed it did and that was there reason for having it. I doubt it as BM is a monster skill.
Btw does Brutal Mauling activate Paragon chants cause somone with a bear in Tombs claimmed it did and that was there reason for having it. I doubt it as BM is a monster skill.
quickmonty
AFAIK BM is a monster skill and the bear no longer uses it once charmed.
Nyktos
BM does in fact activate Anthem of Envy, but all the other Anethms are party member, not ally.
Edit: Actually, the two EotN Anthems (Disruption and Weariness) state "ally" in the description as well, I'm not sure if they actually affect allies or if it really means party members.
Edit: Actually, the two EotN Anthems (Disruption and Weariness) state "ally" in the description as well, I'm not sure if they actually affect allies or if it really means party members.