Guild Wars 2?
Another thread got me thinking about this....will there be a Guild Wars 2? Since GW:F has is basically an expansion for those of us with the game already and has taken so long to come out, how many more things like GW:F can Anet come out with before the current GW engine becomes obsolete?
Since Anet charges no monthly fee, and makes its money off of people buying the game, why have they not made 2 or 3 "expansions" like GW:F yet? I know releasing a quality "expansion" is important, but really, how long do they think they have between expansions before the old GW engine is outdated?
How long will you be happy playing on this engine before you want a true Guild Wars 2 with a new engine?
Guild Wars 2?
travh20
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Hmm. I think Factions = GW2
What you are wanting is a different game.
What you are wanting is a different game.
Loviatar
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Guild Wars 2?
I know releasing a quality "expansion" is important, but really, how long do they think they have between expansions before the old GW engine is outdated? How long will you be happy playing on this engine before you want a true Guild Wars 2 with a new engine? |
they stated that improvements to and including a new engine would be streamed to us on the fly and would not charge for it.this means the engine will not get out of date.
they said they had to upgrade the engine to show the jade sea properly and at no extra charge.
Mustache Mayhem
I want wrestling with all the moves.. maybe houses and you can jump into other people's pve instances and pk them for fun
Diablo???
I dunno if they can really stream a completely overhauled engine... its' like streaming a completely new game. But if its possible, I'd be more than glad to download it.
I've been waiting for a graphical improvement in Guild Wars for a while now (Not that they're bad, GW Graphics have been better than even some long standing MMorpgs), little touches like adding a lens flare to the sun, new sky domes, or patching up broken seems, more little brushes, trees, huts and npcs... all these little touch ups can add so much to the game without a brand new graphical engine. This is what I'm hoping for in Factions, that way we wont have to expect a Guild Wars 2 to bring a new graphical improvement.
I've been waiting for a graphical improvement in Guild Wars for a while now (Not that they're bad, GW Graphics have been better than even some long standing MMorpgs), little touches like adding a lens flare to the sun, new sky domes, or patching up broken seems, more little brushes, trees, huts and npcs... all these little touch ups can add so much to the game without a brand new graphical engine. This is what I'm hoping for in Factions, that way we wont have to expect a Guild Wars 2 to bring a new graphical improvement.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Diablo™
I dunno if they can really stream a completely overhauled engine... its' like streaming a completely new game. But if its possible, I'd be more than glad to download it.
This is what I'm hoping for in Factions, that way we wont have to expect a Guild Wars 2 to bring a new graphical improvement. |
we have been streaming in all of chapter 2 for some time according to the interview. (a whole new game)the jade sea shiny surface required an upgrade in the direct x to show best and Gaile said chapter 2 is much prettier than chapter 1 is.
in an interview the owner said all graphics and engine updates would be considered part of the ongoing package.
updating the engine instead of massive all at once changes will allow them to use advances on the fly not wait until it looks shabby
Kerrick??
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I dunno if they can really stream a completely overhauled engine... its' like streaming a completely new game.
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Graphically GW is still more than able to contend with newer online games.. and i'm quite happy with the way it runs on my 3yr old dell laptop, so in my humble opinion GW2 can wait.. i'd much rather see more expansions and an ever growing Tyrian universe.
Yichi
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I want wrestling with all the moves.. maybe houses and you can jump into other people's pve instances and pk them for fun
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Sagius Truthbarron
EverQuest 1 is still open and running. Starcraft and Half-life 1 still have Tournaments. Those games are all from around 1997 and people play them religiously. I'm thinking GW still has a way to go.
x4alc
I was thinking about this very topic a couple days ago and decided that they should never need to come out with 'GW2' because they can stream pretty much any and all updates to us including graphics or physics engines. These types of updates wouldn't come in stores though, because any one who decided not to buy the expansion would not have the same engines, which would cause some problems.
EternalTempest
Actually, in the audio interview he refers to each game as a stand alone "campaign" and they keep improving it.
GW 2 would have to be a brand new thing (and a different) game from the way he was talking (or plans atm).
GW 2 would have to be a brand new thing (and a different) game from the way he was talking (or plans atm).
Desbreko
Gameplay > Graphics
If the current level of graphics never changed, I'd be perfectly happy to keep playing so long as the content stayed interesting.
If the current level of graphics never changed, I'd be perfectly happy to keep playing so long as the content stayed interesting.
Macktar Wang
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Gameplay > Graphics
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Count to Potato
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EverQuest 1 is still open and running. Starcraft and Half-life 1 still have Tournaments. Those games are all from around 1997 and people play them religiously. I'm thinking GW still has a way to go.
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I was playing Starcraft before guildwars and now guildwars before guildwars factions
TheShadowedBlade
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Originally Posted by Kerrick¹
... and an ever growing Tyrian universe.
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crimsonfilms
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The engine theoretically can be streamed.
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Diablo???
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Sorrow's Furnace was an expansion.
Guild Wars Faction is Guild Wars 2.
Sorrow's Furnace was an expansion.
Guild Wars Faction is Guild Wars 2.
Hodor
The voice throwing during cut scenes puts me off. Maybe just make a bit of mouth movement 
Grimm
It's not an "expansion", and no, there will probably not be a GW2. There will be new Guildwars games, like Factions, but the engine itself will be updated, as has been said multiple times by Jeff Strain. The engine will be updated and will not go out of date, he says. They've already updated the sound and graphical systems. These improvements will be available for everyone, even if you only buy GW1 and no others ever.
Thinking of Guildwars in traditional computer game terms is not very enlightening, because it's such a revolutionary game. It doesn't have "expansions" or "sequels" per se.
Thinking of Guildwars in traditional computer game terms is not very enlightening, because it's such a revolutionary game. It doesn't have "expansions" or "sequels" per se.
Adaria
Due to how stand-alone Guild Wars Factions is to Guild Wars Prophecies, GWF is a stand alone, Guild Wars 2. It is an expansion for us, but it can also be a stand-alone for new people to Guild Wars, you are not required to own Prophecies to own Factions, which is not ever the case for expansions.
It just makes it cooler that they don't get cheap and call it Guild Wars 2, that is the easy way.
It just makes it cooler that they don't get cheap and call it Guild Wars 2, that is the easy way.
Falcon213
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Originally Posted by travh20
How long will you be happy playing on this engine before you want a true Guild Wars 2 with a new engine?
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And even though there's only so far they can go updating the GW engine without estranging players on lower-end equipment, they still have quite a ways they can go.
Grimm
The thing is, the GW engine will be updated, unlike Diablo2, and in fact, has already been updated. It's never going to be as cutting edge as Fear, Oblivion, etc, but it's never giong to be out of date says Jeff Strain.
crazy diamond
I want Guild Wars 2 to play just like Guild Wars, only with more classes, more skills, and more explorable areas.
Kinda like Factions.
Kinda like Factions.
Omega X
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The thing is, the GW engine will be updated, unlike Diablo2, and in fact, has already been updated. It's never going to be as cutting edge as Fear, Oblivion, etc, but it's never giong to be out of date says Jeff Strain.
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There are also visual anomalies as well, like focused bluring of some objects. That was never in the game as far as I could tell.
As for its "Cutting Edged-ness" it is pretty much a new thing. No one has done this kind of engine the way that they have and on such a massive scale. You can "Say" that GW won't have all kinds of HDR effects and dramatic changes in graphics, but who says that you can't with the way the game is constantly updated?
No one thought that the sound engine would be replaced but now its here and DS3D capable. They could replace it again with Dolby capability down the line if they so choose.