Future PS3 Client for Guild Wars

Cirian

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Has anyone else been following the Game Developer's Conference in LA?

I remember an interview a while ago with one of the GW higher-ups touch on the idea of game clients for XBox360 and PS3 and well... it's now confirmed that PS3 will have a harddrive out of the box, plus developers can hook their own servers in, and I'm thinking...

GW on a phat HDTV in the living room?!

How cool would that be! I might not get around to that setup for the best part of a year (new TV... bleh), but hey! The future's looking bright!

Align

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Not enough buttons?

koneko

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Originally Posted by Align
Not enough buttons?
Plug in a keyboard and mouse.

Can't you already use computer -> TV? FFXI for PlayStation2 was recieved as being very "eh" - I suppose that I just don't see the point in porting GW (x86) to the Cell or PPC.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by koneko
Plug in a keyboard and mouse.

Can't you already use computer -> TV? FFXI for PlayStation2 was recieved as being very "eh" - I suppose that I just don't see the point in porting GW (x86) to the Cell or PPC.
FFXI was PS2 (Japan) 1st, then ported over to Windows -> Then US PS2, then (beta currently) xbox360.

FFXI screams controler (with the excpetion of chat) the game play much better via controller then keyboard. I did use the usb keyboard for the PS2 for chat, everything else controller. (I played on PS2, wife used PC).

Alcazanar

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i couldnt care less
even if it would pull through
i wouldnt buy it

TB_

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What id say was more likly, is a PS3 only chapter that way all content and the UI can be tuned to the console.

Cirian

Cirian

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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The GW servers are client independant, so you could have PC, Xbox360 and PS3 players all in the same party

The account keys are tied to your account on the server, so of course you wouldn't have to buy another copy of GW or anything - just get a copy of the client. I like the idea of being able to play the same characters on whatever I feel like at the time - obviously I wouldn't stop using my PC sometimes

It's like, if I want to hide away and play quietly then I can use the PC - or if I feel like crashing out in comfort I could play in the living room - options, options

R A C

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Psst... PCs hook up nicely to projectors and other hdtvs. wireless key board and mouse ftw. Oh, and if you really wanna use a psx/2/3/xbox controller, grab an adapter from radioshack. Not hard.

twicky_kid

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Since the ps3 is 3x more powerful than my comp and will be cheaper than buying a comp with equal power. This is a good idea for players and is even better for customer's that have comps less powerfull than the ps3.

EternalTempest

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TB_
What id say was more likly, is a PS3 only chapter that way all content and the UI can be tuned to the console.
Ah kinda like EQ Adventures for PS2 is seperate from the rest of EQ PC.

Nevin

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Phat?..

Cirian

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
Phat?..
Erm... urban dictionary... there were a few meanings I wasn't aware of, but they're along the same lines Apparently I'm being really 90's too

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GW on ps3? never, several things, ps3 will be delayed and delayed, price is up, expectaions down, the cell based processor is still unstable and is part reason for the delays, the system on ps3 is more complicated than linux to program in (part the cell processors fault), blue ray discs don't remember amount of space but preeeeettttyyyy biiiiig around 50GB? well, pretty games if you fill that out, who ever will make a game that takes that kinda space anyway? meaning, ps3 might not get full use of blueray = waste of money on blueray reader, more work for devs to fill out space, longer development for games = price up, further more, if you went above 5GB room for a game that means a regular dvd don't have room and a blueray disc is to big for it, waste of money. So if Anet decided to make GW for Ps3 and X360 then the constant updates would be lesser and we would not get any service, porting from pc to something requires time and patience, it isn't just to throw in some extra coding and then play, belive me, Halo for Xbox is way better than Halo for pc, and they threw in a little extra stuff for the pc version

d3kst3r

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Meh, my computer with a TV-output on the video card still beats any gaming console available to mankind.

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That includes a PS3?

Zehnchu

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God I hope that GW will never hits consoles. I’ve seen to many great PC games go consoles and screwed future expansions or a new game for PC. Why because game makes put all or the majority the resources in the consoles rather then PC.

EternalTempest

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
Phat?..
EQ:A for Ps2
https://store.station.sony.com/hardg...-SW0203-ONLADV

EQ:AF for Ps2
https://store.station.sony.com/hardg...-SW1103-EQOAFR

twicky_kid

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Naqser
GW on ps3? never, several things, ps3 will be delayed and delayed, price is up, expectaions down, the cell based processor is still unstable and is part reason for the delays, the system on ps3 is more complicated than linux to program in (part the cell processors fault), blue ray discs don't remember amount of space but preeeeettttyyyy biiiiig around 50GB? well, pretty games if you fill that out, who ever will make a game that takes that kinda space anyway? meaning, ps3 might not get full use of blueray = waste of money on blueray reader, more work for devs to fill out space, longer development for games = price up, further more, if you went above 5GB room for a game that means a regular dvd don't have room and a blueray disc is to big for it, waste of money. So if Anet decided to make GW for Ps3 and X360 then the constant updates would be lesser and we would not get any service, porting from pc to something requires time and patience, it isn't just to throw in some extra coding and then play, belive me, Halo for Xbox is way better than Halo for pc, and they threw in a little extra stuff for the pc version
I don't know where you get your sources but you might want to check again. MOST developers say that it will be easier to program than 360 is. Just about every game is going to programmed using Unreal Tournement 06 game engine which as we know is very comprihensive, very adaptable, and looks great.

The delays in lauch are completely false. The delay has been addition and removal of hardware decisions. They decided to remove the hard drive and make it an optional accessory. Online game devs did not like they and most conusmers did not like that decision. Since they have put the HD back in. Other components have been removed to reduce cost to consumer and Sony.

Blue ray is going to give developers more room to create even bigger games at better quality. It will be more expensive but as with anything you get what you pay for. If they increased the size to something slightly larger than what we have now that will limit the developers. Sony is well know for giving the developers exactly what they need to make games and to create FUTURE games. We might not need that space now but what about 5-8 years?

Str0b0

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I think the biggest obstacle would be coding it for PS3. From preliminary reports the PS3 is looking to be more difficult to code for than XBox 360. I don't see it happening but it would be kind of cool. My source for the harder to program for thing? Why Game Informer of course.They did a side by side comparison last issue and that was one of the cons listed. Considering XBox 360 is more like a specialized PC, I mean it even uses aspects of Vista code in it's design, I imagine it would be much easier to write for.

Naqser

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Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
Sony is well know for giving the developers exactly what they need to make games and to create FUTURE games
maybe so, but didn't they promise toy story (the film) graphics for ps2? where did that go? and when peolpe complained about the design for the ps1 controller sony was like "damn you, you play on our console you use our controlls, we're not changning anything" when people complained about the design on the xbox duke controlls they design the s-controller allmost directly. Look at the ps3 controll, do you think people want that banana or *not going into what else it looks like* in their hands, some might want but not me. What about those sony cds that had that strange program that was installed deep into windows to prevent piracy, it was counted as a spyware or virus, don't think that microsoft wanted that. God knows what that program could do else than prevent cd copying, they were out on very thin ice there. yes, I sound like an anti-sony person, but I'm only going after the "you have to see the bad in the good and the good in the bad to know what to buy" theory

koneko

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Naqser
What about those sony cds that had that strange program that was installed deep into windows to prevent piracy, it was counted as a spyware or virus
Rootkit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EternalTempest
FFXI was PS2 (Japan) 1st, then ported over to Windows -> Then US PS2, then (beta currently) xbox360.
Yeah, yeah, I know the order of release, I'm just saying. I can't stand the controller, personally. For some reason I recall FFXI-PS2 as being very "meh" in comparison to the PC version.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
Considering XBox 360 is more like a specialized PC
It's more like a pre-Intel Mac, really.

I suppose I'm the only one that just doesn't see the point in porting it. Keeping it on the PC = less busywork for ArenaNet, more time to work out content.

JiggyFly

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I've seen the PS3 demo and I don't think Guild Wars would be made for PS2 before being made as a PS3 game, because the PS3 graphics looked out fo this world. The Indy racing and the first person shooter...I mean they made Guild Wars curscenes look like a joke in comparison.

Unless they gave Guild Wars better visuals on the PS3 version, then again Squaresoft was alreayd making video games with Sony, thus they could go the PC/PS2 route, as far as I know Anet and Sony are completely unrelated.

Wretchman Drake

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnchu
God I hope that GW will never hits consoles. I’ve seen to many great PC games go consoles and screwed future expansions or a new game for PC. Why because game makes put all or the majority the resources in the consoles rather then PC.
agreed, especially to those asians who MAKE PS3....

If it should ever hit a system, let it be Xbox360, I HATE Playstation it will never be better than Microsoft, period.

Ashleigh McMahon

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O how i'd love guild wars to come out on mac.Then i'd be able to play it on my super powerfull mac laptop.It's like 3x as powerfull as my gaming pc

A little advice.If your a gamer, I wouldn't suggest getting a mac.

koneko

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Originally Posted by Ashleigh McMahon
O how i'd love guild wars to come out on mac.Then i'd be able to play it on my super powerfull mac laptop.It's like 3x as powerfull as my gaming pc

A little advice.If your a gamer, I wouldn't suggest getting a mac.
Do you have one of the new MacBook Pro machines? o.o

Intel Mac + Windows XP = win...as soon as someone figures out how to get working drivers for the x1600s in the MacBooks and iMacs, I mean.

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Don't argue me about how it's not like this or whatnot, it's a feeling I have. It's not facts.

Huntmaster

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Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
Since the ps3 is 3x more powerful than my comp and will be cheaper than buying a comp with equal power.
By the time PS3 comes out, you'll be able to make a PC for the same price.. :/

There was a big debate in RA d2 the other day over Consoles vs PCs and we came to the conclusion that consoles will never be as good as pcs. Besides, can your console run notepad, while running GW? Yeah, didn't think so.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by R A C
Psst... PCs hook up nicely to projectors and other hdtvs. wireless key board and mouse ftw. Oh, and if you really wanna use a psx/2/3/xbox controller, grab an adapter from radioshack. Not hard.
And at the same time find the GPU power equivalent of 2 GeForce 7800 strapped together for $400. Hmm, i think not....Not so easy huh?

Actually, second thoughts, lets not turn this into a PC vs console thing. Some games work better on PC, some are better on console right? I cant stand sore PC users who only word against Consoles is 'PC will always be better' The fact of the matter is evidence shows otherwise. Yes Consoles cant be upgraded as such, yes they havent really had HD up till now, yes they cant run 2 tasks at once, but is the power gap narrowing? Are they becoming a better platform to play games on? Are they signifcantly cheaper than PCs?

I would say yes to all of them. PS3 will be more powerful than the MAJORITY of PCs out at the same time, and will be significantly cheaper than the sum of its parts. Consoles make a loss on the Hardware, gain on Games. Dont see PCs doing that. On that PC cant compete. In addition Consoles dont have combatibility problems.

With the emergence of internet connectivity i would hope that ANET made a game tailored to the PS3. Maybe not the same GW, but a similar project. Alas, i dont see it happening to be honest.

All in all i would say that evidence that says PCs will never be taken over goes on the fact that it hasnt happened yet. I would say that consoles are the predominant force as far as gaming goes. Need proof? Ask Microsoft why they got into the console business.

For now i am happy with GW on the PC, even if my PC isnt worthy of it, tbh. If GW comes out on the PS3, i will jump for it, and then pretty much say goodbye to the PC as far as playing games goes.

One final point. The trend is that all items are being geared up for multitasking. All companies are doing at as much as possible. Phones that play music, send videos, play games (not all succesfully note) PSP has a web browser. In addition consoles are being targetted at peoples living rooms, not like which PCs which seem content to sit in the bedroom/office. How long before consoles do everything that other things did. PS2 was a dvd player (admitedly not very good at it) and a games player. XBOX added XBOX live, PS3 goes further with respectable HD, internet access and Blu Ray player. How long before web browsers, wireless connectvity with printers, music, TV tuners (which are more important in UK thanks to the death of analouge TV) all these things. How long before Consoles do the living room job, and PCs are relegated to sitting in some musty office?

This is off-topic, so best not answer it, just a thought though. And please dont accuse me of being a Console Fan-boy, since having this new (but still outdated PC) i have seen little of my Console.