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Clusmas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Brisbane, Australia

n/a

25 Mar 2006 at 03:18 - 1

With the beginning of this weekend, I have found that:

Loading times across the entire game have increased.
The number of err 7's and other disconnects has greatly increased.

I for one will be glad when this weekend is over. And hope that Factions is NEVER released, at least not in the terrible state it is in now.

Also, Alliance battles are a shamble. It's the worst mechanic ever. It makes GW like those stupid raiding partys in WoW, where it doesn't really matter what you do because you have so many other people doing stuff too. Again, this is in the current state. I'm skeptical at best as to how far the players becoming more aware and more organised can take it.

As far as I'm concerned, the game is in absolutley terrible condition, by no means fit for even a public beta release. I don't know how they are expecting to have a complete game rolled out from this within a month.

Why don't you just close the FPE NOW and let us resume our normal undisrupted gaming. I'm tired of dropouts.

Byne

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

25 Mar 2006 at 03:19 - 2

all I can say is ...

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

25 Mar 2006 at 03:27 - 3

It's like in Sim City, where you set the tax rate to 0% but still have citizens that complain about it

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

25 Mar 2006 at 03:33 - 4

That's the best comparison ever, Asrial.

I've not had a 7 error yet.

Complaining about loading times is stupid. There's loading times because we're downloading new stuff. You are, in a sense, complaining about new content.

As far as Alliance battles are concerned, you'll see a HUGE difference in coordinated teams and uncoordinated teams.

Shadowdogg

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Tavern around the corner...

25 Mar 2006 at 03:33 - 5

wow......cut back on your caffeine intake...hmmmm?

Quinn Falcon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

UK, Manchester

25 Mar 2006 at 03:36 - 6

*sniff* I wish I could log on and enjoy the FPE weekend, damn you for being able to log on and not appreciating it!

Clusmas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Brisbane, Australia

n/a

25 Mar 2006 at 03:47 - 7

4 disconnects in 3 gvgs? gg anet.

And the loading times I'm talking about are when you go to say your Guild Hall, it'll download something, usually <2meg, then if you go to your Guild Hall again it'll download something AGAIN. It's always downloading something when you change areas, despite how recently you changed to that same area.

Don't get me wrong, Factions is awesome in concept and I'll be buying it. But from what I've seen so far it's going to have a hard time living upto it's predecessor as a 'competitive mmo' and in 'requiring skill'.

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

25 Mar 2006 at 03:48 - 8

My guild members really hate FPE. I think its alot better than the original. Faction Battles need to be tweaked to be less repeditive, I think, but other than that its great.

I think the Faction Battles do require skill. I think we'll be seeing this the more Guild Groups get out there and less people joining randomly.

I think its very nice, though, to have a high end PvP area where people don't have to be rank 9 to get a group..

Ares Enduwa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Syko Killers

N/Me

25 Mar 2006 at 03:56 - 9

Personally, I hate assassin and ritualist.

I might be the only one though.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

25 Mar 2006 at 03:58 - 10

i just downloaded over a gig yesterday and i want to complain about all this extravagant forcing me to have more content.

as for any glitches how else do you expect to find them except to stress the system?

would you rather wait to the release and then find the bugs they are swatting now?

the way to stop the sims tax complaints is a 150% refund instead of only zero (then quietly dispose of the few that still complain)

Helios

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

25 Mar 2006 at 04:02 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clusmas

And the loading times I'm talking about are when you go to say your Guild Hall, it'll download something, usually <2meg, then if you go to your Guild Hall again it'll download something AGAIN. It's always downloading something when you change areas, despite how recently you changed to that same area.

You're still not used to it? It happened in the betas, when you first play the game and even after large updates. If you're on dial-up, I feel for you, but if not, be happy its not going to take 15 minutes to load a new area.

If the FPE is bothering you that much, go find something else to do. There's things that piss me off about GW, too, but when that happens, I log off, play another game or call some buddies up.

Clusmas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Brisbane, Australia

n/a

25 Mar 2006 at 04:05 - 12

Ok, I don't want to play the FPE.

Should that stop me from playing the original Guilds Wars (which I've paid for) this weekend?

Oblivion's Hell

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Somewhere...

Guild Of Dangerous Surprise [GODS]

25 Mar 2006 at 04:07 - 13

I hate the female assassin's dance.

Oblivion's Hell

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Somewhere...

Guild Of Dangerous Surprise [GODS]

25 Mar 2006 at 04:09 - 14

But I have the Factions Preorder package already, so if I don't like Factions, oh well, too bad.

Syi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

25 Mar 2006 at 04:20 - 15

I love the alliance battles imo. It's facepaced and you don't have to wait forever to set up. >.>

TehTomato

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

NBK

R/Mo

25 Mar 2006 at 04:23 - 16

Assassins are frusturating to play, and ritualists are frusturating to play against.

I hate FPE, I wish Factions never existed.

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

25 Mar 2006 at 04:38 - 17

Assassins are fun to fight against.

Ritualists have a near insta-kill in a certain mesmer signet given to you as part of the PFE.

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

25 Mar 2006 at 04:48 - 18

My machine crashed 2 times since the start of FPE

and when I say crash, I mean really the thing froze up. Nothing is moving on screen, keyboard and mouse all not working.

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

25 Mar 2006 at 04:54 - 19

Again? If you don't like it, don't play it.

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

25 Mar 2006 at 04:58 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by KANE OG

Again? If you don't like it, don't play it.

While I don't agree with the nature of this thread, people really need to stop saying this. There's no set point as how the game should or is intended to be. If people don't like it, as annoying as it might be to hear them squiel, they have a right to try and get what they don't like improved.

primal98

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

25 Mar 2006 at 05:06 - 21

... I have not been on the boards for a few months as guild wars got a lil stale... but when I heard about Factions I rushed back. I was pleasantly surprised that there were some cool changes to the game as well.

When I stopped playing octoberish(then briefly for winter event)... everyone jsut complained. Giving suggestions is one thing, but it seems that nothing is ever good enuf...

I personally am enjoying the preview weekend... and my friends think Im nuts for ditching em today to play it :P Hahahha... sigh the nerd in me was dying to see Factions :P I honestly enjoyed it... now there are some things I dislike... like the Jade Sea.... ugh so plain.... and I absolutely love the assassin.... its all in timing

I dont think factions is making GW worse, it seems rather interesting, and they get my $50 for the game when it comes out

Come now, these are the people who MADE GUILD WARS, they have proven time and again that they LISTEN to our complaints and suggestions. Theya re not oging to do something that would jeopordize the game. They are out to make $$ afterall.. and what better way than by keeping the customer happy

This isnt the end all product of Factions, Im sure there are still stuff they are keeping away from us, some stuff still in the works, and some stuff that will come in future updates.

~prime

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

25 Mar 2006 at 05:10 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clusmas

With the beginning of this weekend, I have found that:

Loading times across the entire game have increased.
The number of err 7's and other disconnects has greatly increased.

I for one will be glad when this weekend is over. And hope that Factions is NEVER released, at least not in the terrible state it is in now.

Also, Alliance battles are a shamble. It's the worst mechanic ever. It makes GW like those stupid raiding partys in WoW, where it doesn't really matter what you do because you have so many other people doing stuff too. Again, this is in the current state. I'm skeptical at best as to how far the players becoming more aware and more organised can take it.

As far as I'm concerned, the game is in absolutley terrible condition, by no means fit for even a public beta release. I don't know how they are expecting to have a complete game rolled out from this within a month.

Why don't you just close the FPE NOW and let us resume our normal undisrupted gaming. I'm tired of dropouts.

Sure, of course the game has a few kinks. Its a beta duh. I've never had a disconect yet, although the loading times are huge. But this is to be expected since the only way to get the new maps is by streaming them. And I dont know how you can even complain about alliance battles. Maybe you've been with terrible groups but, I think its very well balanced. You usually split up into 3-4 man teams to take the stands anyway. Its not usually a 12 on 12 at once battle. For god sakes they even thought far enough to prevent spawn camping. I loved the alliance battles so far. Besides the loading times, and a few skills being near clones I think this is going to be a great weekend for a great game.

Mtank325

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Crimson Blood Dragons [CBD]

25 Mar 2006 at 05:21 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by TehTomato

Assassins are frusturating to play, and ritualists are frusturating to play against.

I hate FPE, I wish Factions never existed.

I think there are some major skill tweaking that needs to happen to the skill-sets. Some of them seemed a bit unbalanced. Under only their dagger mastery, Assassins have the ability to knockdown, daze, interupt, blind, cause exhaustion, remove all of the enemy's stances, cripple, poison, cause bleeding, and deep wound, not to mention the fact that the majority of skills are 5-mana cost and the longest cooldown is 20. Granted the drawback is having to time your attacks, but this seems highly offbalanced. Compare it to the hammer mastery of warriors who can barely knockdown without a huge trade-off of losing majority adrenaline or something of the like. Factor in also a reduced attack rate and for what? Slightly higher damage?

Ah well, I guess I shouldn't judge until I get more of a chance to play as an assassin and get more time facing one.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

25 Mar 2006 at 05:26 - 24

Disconnects and lag is bad. That's obvious.

Complaining about it in a childish way and then making stupid statements such as "Factions makes GW worse" and "I hope it never gets released" is whining in the most annoying and ridiculous way.

BlackRecluse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

[Dark]

W/

25 Mar 2006 at 05:29 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ares Enduwa

Personally, I hate assassin and ritualist.

I might be the only one though.

completely 100% agree. dont think ill buy this 'expansion'

Misa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right next to the armor crafter.

Mo/

25 Mar 2006 at 06:02 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Disconnects and lag is bad. That's obvious.

Complaining about it in a childish way and then making stupid statements such as "Factions makes GW worse" and "I hope it never gets released" is whining in the most annoying and ridiculous way.

Thank you for posting that.

This is only a 3day pre-release event. ANet will probably add more servers to relieve the lag and dc when they actully release Faction.

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

25 Mar 2006 at 07:38 - 27

The previous PvP faction update trashed my gw.dat file to where I could not connect. Similir thing (same cause, different symptom) happened again... re-downloading now.

I had to re-download the entire game. After that was done and the event was over, everything went back to normal. I do know that this will not be the norm for the retail version of this game.

Not only that if Faction is not your cup of tea, they will learn there mistakes about Factions and make change with Chapter 3 (title/theme) unknown and you may want to jump back on then.

Rieselle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Melbourne, Australia

E/Rt

25 Mar 2006 at 07:57 - 28

Regarding the downloading and decompressing, I think after GW:F is released and ANet has a little breathing room, they should really explore the possibility of adding more options for getting new content. Being able to download a patch on another pc (bittorrent? save themselves some bandwidth) and then installing in one hit, and / or a button that performs all the decompression required in one go.

Whilst the live streaming system is great for little things here and there, when it comes to big stuff like this and Sorrow's Furnace, I think most people would prefer to be given the choice to leave their PC on overnight or something and get it all out of the way, rather than having it cut into their playing time.

Nocere Moriari

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Bolivia

Ancient of Days

N/R

05 May 2006 at 08:02 - 29

Well i think the reazon for all these problems is the vast amount of first part player and the new players. the system is at max capacity. theses days in LA,ascalon and other places there isnt any one. game is running incredible at least for GW that isnt Factions. had more time to explore and screw around, game for me is running smoother then ever. try it or the best is to play in internacional district 3-6am there time.

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

05 May 2006 at 10:16 - 30

Yeah, I agree.

In addition to that, the game is now bigger. I have to walk around more. Not only that, with more type of mobs to kill, I'm too busy killing them instead of looting. Bad bad Anet, bad move... And what with more skills anyway? It's hard enough figuring out whether I should take normal rez or rebirth (or none at all), now you add rez chant? Bah, waste my time....waste waste waste...

Ummm......never mind me. XD j/k

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

05 May 2006 at 10:43 - 31

Way to revive a month-old thread. This thread is complaining about the FPE, not the release.

Seissor

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Squiggilyville. Population: Me.

[oRly] Hello Kitty Death Squad

R/Me

05 May 2006 at 11:29 - 32

I d/c or freeze up every 30 mins. This used to happen like...once every 3 months. Now its like clockwork everyday, really really annoying when you do a looooooooong quest and you error 7 out. Hope it gets fixed, really peeving me atm.

MasterDinadan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

The Zaishen Force

Me/E

05 May 2006 at 15:07 - 33

You'd think people would be a little forgiving of server and connection issues. You realize that Guild Wars has almost no downtime compared to other online games?? And you aren't even paying a monthly fee (fees that usually go towards maintaining servers)... So, just suck it up :P

Online games sometimes have problems and aren't available and running perfectly effectively all of the time. It's a fact of life.

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

05 May 2006 at 15:59 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seissor

I d/c or freeze up every 30 mins. This used to happen like...once every 3 months. Now its like clockwork everyday, really really annoying when you do a looooooooong quest and you error 7 out. Hope it gets fixed, really peeving me atm.

I figure it's the increased server load due to everyone playing Factions, and that it'll eventually solve itself as people finish Factions and move on to something else. I don't freeze up, but I do get more disconnects than usual, especially when zoning.

One thing I have noticed is that sometimes when I want to warp to a town, nothing happens. So I try again, and I get a message saying, "Your party is waiting to enter a mission." Not sure what that's about. Eventually I'm warped to the town, but I'm not sure why it takes so long to warp just me, or me and a group of henchies. And no, we weren't waiting to enter a mission.

Omni Spirit

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

05 May 2006 at 17:36 - 35

The lag has been worst lately, but I don't think its because of the number player. If you remember sometime toward the end of last year. Anet release a nerf update and ever since then we been getting lags, I think they bugged themselves. It just happens to be getting worst nowaday, almost to point of unplayable in certain areas.

You can sorta say Anet Nerfed Themselves!