controlling towns

jimmyhats

jimmyhats

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

boston o.o

Pros At Inactivity [bleh]

maybe im missing something here, but i cant for the life of me figure out how to take control of a town/outpost.... anyone know?

jmj102

jmj102

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/Mo

Not sure if you can do that in this preview event. I think it might be either by winning the 12 vs 12 matches, or winning the missions like jade quarry and fort. Whats really freaky is that I can see "jimmyhats" gives up in amatz basin right now. what a coincidence.

jimmyhats

jimmyhats

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

boston o.o

Pros At Inactivity [bleh]

yuh thats me.... but you can def. control towns.... click a town on the map but do not go to it... the little popup window that gives you the town info tells you what guild is currently in control of it

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Your guild members purchase standing with kurzick faction whoever has the most gets the best towns.

jimmyhats

jimmyhats

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

boston o.o

Pros At Inactivity [bleh]

that doesnt answer the question at all.

zoozoc

zoozoc

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Beaverton/OR

Disciples of Birkler [BIR]

i believe this is how you "buy" a town, not sure totally because i havnt done it yet, but it makes sense. Using your lurzick/luxon faction you have earned you go to the alliance rating guy in pve and give him 5000 faction in order to increase you alliance rating by 10. Yoo continue to do this till you get enough to meet the requirememnts to "buy" the town, not sure if you keep your rating or if you spend it when you buy a town though.

jimmyhats

jimmyhats

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

boston o.o

Pros At Inactivity [bleh]

thats kinda what i was guessing, and it does seem to make sense.... does anyone know for sure though? i know guilds are controlling towns, where are the people from these guilds who can tell me what they did, cold hard fact?

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

I think I have an idea on how it might work...

You trade in faction for alliance standing. That's a given and easily understood now.

Say there are 5 towns (A, B, C, D, E; A is closest to the capital and E is farthest).

A requires 500 standing, B 400, C 300, D 200, E 100.

Your guild gains 100 standing. You automatically, without doing anything, gain control of town E.

You reach the 200 mark on standing. You lose control of E, but gain control of D.

You reach 300, you lose control of D but gain control of C, and so on.

Now, say there are guilds already occupying A-E. You gain enough standing to occupy E (by having more than whatever it currently takes, which is probably going to be an always increasing number). The current leader of E gets knocked off. Now say you gain enough to move into D, you bump that leader down into E.

I 'think' that's how it works or is going to work.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

i believe thats how it works also.

This would require you to make BIG alliances and gather loads of faction into your alliance if you want control of the big big cities

Lexar

Lexar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Organised Spam

W/

I hope I'm wrong, but it feels like this means that 95% of the alliances with not so competitve guilds in it (pve or pvp) won't frequently have access to this. Even if there's 50 outposts to divide, there's thousands upon thousands of guilds out there.

And it's kinda lame that you don't get to attack outposts to take them over, but you could get a random one. It would be more exciting if there was more direction in which outpost you'd want to have, I think.

devilru

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

公平さの光 [微笑]

Hi, I'm a member of TTA (We had control of House Zu Heltzer a few hours ago). Now Fun Lovin Kriminals owns it.
It basically works like this (I think):
The best town to own is House Zu Heltzer (being the capital, Cavalon for the Luxons).
The guild with the most alliance standing will take control of it.
Next to House Zu Heltzer is Altrum Ruins which is currently under our control.
The closer an outpost to House Zu Heltzer is, the more 'important' it is. So the guild with the 2nd most Alliance standing will get control of the 2nd closest outpost to House Zu Heltzer.
You get alliance standing by trading in 5000 Kurzik/Luxon Faction to the NPC in the guild hall.

I hope that made sense.

cyberzomby

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Netherlands

The Heroics

N/Me

Devilru thanks for that explenation. But what are the benefits other than Wauw they are controlling the town.
Thats what im wondering.

AND !
This system is not realy fair now is it. It should be cooler the way tombs is run. The way it is now makes it work like this.
First you need 5k faction, than 50k than 500k than 50000k than 5000000k right ?

Mrs Ne

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

London, England

Mo/

Thanks for the information, if your guild alliance controls a town what can you do with the it?

SilentAssassin

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

devilru, how much alliance standing are we talking about?

500?

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Were currently sitting on 648 standing.

But closeness isn't the determining factor because the third best is down the bottom (somthing basin) I think it is determined by importance and whether the town will contain an elite mission etc in the future.

devilru

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

公平さの光 [微笑]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Ne
Thanks for the information, if your guild alliance controls a town what can you do with the it?
At the moment, nothing.


EDIT:
Quote:
How much standing do you get for the 5k faction? Is the the previously stated 10?
Yes, it is 10 standing per 5k faction.
It's really strange though because we have 648 standing. We either gained 8 or lost 2 standing, we don't know what that's about.

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by devilru
Hi, I'm a member of TTA (We had control of House Zu Heltzer a few hours ago). Now Fun Lovin Kriminals owns it.
It basically works like this (I think):
The best town to own is House Zu Heltzer (being the capital, Cavalon for the Luxons).
The guild with the most alliance standing will take control of it.
Next to House Zu Heltzer is Altrum Ruins which is currently under our control.
The closer an outpost to House Zu Heltzer is, the more 'important' it is. So the guild with the 2nd most Alliance standing will get control of the 2nd closest outpost to House Zu Heltzer.
You get alliance standing by trading in 5000 Kurzik/Luxon Faction to the NPC in the guild hall.

I hope that made sense.
How much standing do you get for the 5k faction? Is the the previously stated 10?

Mrs Ne

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

London, England

Mo/

When you 'donate' 5,000 faction your standings goes up by 10.

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Im sure Anet will run it in seasons like the ladder to ensure fairness.

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberzomby
First you need 5k faction, than 50k than 500k than 50000k than 5000000k right ?
: / so in your ideal world, it takes 5 million faction to get your alliance to 40 points??

and btw, the cap is 10k so..

Quinn Falcon

Quinn Falcon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

UK, Manchester

Quote:
Originally Posted by devilru
At the moment, nothing.


EDIT:

Yes, it is 10 standing per 5k faction.
It's really strange though because we have 648 standing. We either gained 8 or lost 2 standing, we don't know what that's about.
I'm guessing Anet gave a moderately fast decay rate to faction standing to level the playing field abit for latecomers. Hence you're down 2 already.

UltimaXtreme

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

We have maxed out the guild with members. lost control of the capital this morning.

prepare yourselves TTA, because [love] will be passing you with alliance points. >:-\

Cunning

Cunning

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vabbi, Elona

Ex Talionis [Law]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinn Falcon
I'm guessing Anet gave a moderately fast decay rate to faction standing to level the playing field abit for latecomers. Hence you're down 2 already.
Well actually we've had 2 points missing for the whole time, it has never changed since. At the time of posting we have 708 Standing and we have the capital.

One speculation is that if you donate your faction to the other side (ie, luxons instead of kurzicks) then you lose 8 points from the kurziks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimaXtreme
We have maxed out the guild with members. lost control of the capital this morning.

prepare yourselves TTA, because [love] will be passing you with alliance points. >:-\
yeah, our guilds have been toe-to-toe for this whole weekend. I think we're also in two different time zones (we're in Au/NZ), which would explain why we keep overtaking eachother.

Pandora's box

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

Hmm I already sensed I was missing something, now it seems clear. I've not seen many guildies online these days and I'm sure we did not choose a site at all (maybe this also explains why I'm unable to jump to the guildhall in factions?). Anyway, thanx for the explanation! I hope taking control wont be restricted to elite guilds/alliances in future, since the majority of the guilds consist of ocassionally now and than players

Woutsie

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

So, this pretty much is only for the pro guilds because I don't think huge beginner guilds with lots of members will ever control a town...

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

I wouldn't exactly call TTA pro, its not like we have any entry requirements besides maturity and being an Australian New Zealander. Its just we have alot of active members which helps immensly.

Shattered Self

Shattered Self

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

PvE

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woutsie
So, this pretty much is only for the pro guilds because I don't think huge beginner guilds with lots of members will ever control a town...
Actually, huge alliances will have a lot more pull than the small hardcore PvP guilds. Would you rather get 10 standing each from 6 people every 4 hours or 10 standing each from 16 people every 6 hours? Merging guilds is a huge pain in the ass (I've been through it twice), but just working together with another guild to pool standing? That's easy. Huge alliances (hundreds of members) will probably become the only groups capable of holding territory by the end of May.