There Is No Community !

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Garias Whitanian
Ascalonian Squire
#1
The problem with guild wars is, there IS no community, maybe for guild members etc there is, but from beginning the game onwards its rare to find anyone to help you. The pre sear is riddled with old players restarting and robbing people blind of their dyes before moving on and its no better post sear, but who can blame people for not wanting to help noobs?, lets face it, if you killed more than one creature per quest presear, you wont get any exp for the next 12 hours of play (im exaggerating a little for ranting effect).

This is definitely not helped by the fact that English seems to be a redundant language in the Guild Wars world.

I find it difficult to believe their arent language specific servers, its a joke.

This is a problem that needs resolving, its ok for the Germans and the French because the majority can speak English, but i cant read a word of their language. And dont say I should go out and learn another language because I bought the game in English and thats the language Id like to play it in
DismalClown
DismalClown
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
Ah yes. The answer you'll get from most people is, "it's a free game so you get younger players". And that's basically true. For a good community you have to find a good guild. But they are easy to find. And these message boards have a good community spirit, not a lot of nerf this threads, like you see in some games.
kowboi22
kowboi22
Pre-Searing Cadet
#3
I totally agree. I'm post Sear and it's a joke. I finally got into a Guild and I get no help whatsoever. I ask for a little help so that I can get the experience from a hard quest in order for me to get better, but does that cause anyone to rush forward? No. I get asked " Can you help me first? Or What can I trade you?" How is this any sort of "guild" when everyone treats everyone else like an outsider. I got more help from a non- english speaking ranger then anyone else in this game. If I have to pay fees for a better playing experience I will. This free stuff obviously allows all the little kids to get it and be immature buggers to everyone because it's funny. I'm going back to WOW
SOT
SOT
Banned
#4
byebye then.


*sigh*

I never...NOT ONCE...had these kinda issues in my D&D days
origin boudine
origin boudine
Ascalonian Squire
#5
Origin Boudine....

msg me and if I'm online I would be more than happy to help at whatever. Unless you are further than me, then you are SOL. But seriously if anyone new to post-sear or GW in general needs some help don't hesitate.
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Dax
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
I'm really trying to enjoy this game, but so far to be honest I've played it with henchman entirely and I see no reason to party up with players unless it is for PvP. Towns are just props for people standing around (or dancing) begging for parties or items. Thanks to the chat sytem with no audio cues when someone whispers to you I usually miss people. I've had no problem with completing quests with the henchies, but they don't laugh at my jokes.

This game is a beautiful single player game with some online PvP at the moment.... I'm getting the itch to back to WoW....
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Garias Whitanian
Ascalonian Squire
#7
I think the sound overall is lacklustre but the lack of audio cues is the most annoying. I dont mind the npc's staring blankly, lips sealed, while they shout in a cut scene, but when i type /roar I want to hear a roar dammit !
Trenchsoul
Trenchsoul
Ascalonian Squire
#8
As I see it, community doesn't mean everyone gives you free items and hugs and helps you do all your quests. It would help if people defined what they were talking about when they said community, then there might be something to say about a lack of community in this thread.

Community is something that you have in MMOs, where you have a limited number of people on a server. In a game like Guild Wars maybe a broad sense of knowing that such and such guild is the best will be around, but individual players will probably never get reputations of their own, which I believe is a major part of community. Guilds will certainly have their own communities in GW, but the player base is simply too large to actually develop a global sense of the word.

I suppose you would translate this out into the real world (I've heard it exists) using a city as an example. There are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people living in cities. Modern transportation (game transportation and multiple servers in GW) lets you get around all over the place, so people generally aren't hanging around in one place to make friends. You'll have your smaller community groups in a bar you frequent or an arcade, but I'd be hard pressed to find a sense of community in such a large mobile place. An MMO is more like a small town in comparison. A limited number of people populate the town (server), and everyone generally gets to know each other. Who's a ninja, who's a good group leader in difficult areas, etc.

Am I making any sense?
The Wolf
The Wolf
Ascalonian Squire
#9
I have a slow computer so I don't generally party with people because I don't want to hold them back. When I get stuck on a hard quest and need to rethink my skills, I usually go back to LA, Ascalon, or a town with a hard mission and give people hints and crafting materials.

I'd be glad to help anyone that needs it as long as they don't mind waiting a few minutes for me to load the map and aren't farther than me. I generally play as Blaidd Gwyn (Mo/R with a temporary focus on smiting and beast mastery(I change it to match the mission)). Feel free to pm me. I'm always looking for people who need help.
Yukito Kunisaki
Yukito Kunisaki
Forge Runner
#10
As leader of Prismatic Verge I try my darndest to help my guildmates. Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't. But thankfully, my officers are both crazy and skilled enough to give FAST guided tours of entire regions. [my salute to Maxximus Decimus ^_^]

But if you're going to categorize and blast this game for being full of idiots because it's free, I STILL run into more losers in p2p games [like Ragnarok Online who bot their days away and say *I'm better than u are cause I played 99 million hours more than you and have 1337 GEAR*]. Come on...

You must remember there's balance in aspects everywhere. Thankfully, I've yet to discover a bot style program for this game which will play it for you... [which pretty much gains u nothing since lvl 20 is the cap and I don't see bots being programmed to react in team formation anytime soon]

By saying everyone is anti-community losers means you're putting the people that DO HELP the community in the same barrel. Bad move...

If you really truely want to play a game that perfectly puts you in control of everything, er... play another game offline by yourself?
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Garias Whitanian
Ascalonian Squire
#11
Im not suggesting free items and hugs all round, A community is a group of people with a common interest, as I said, only the guilds achieve this and, no doubt it is due to the fact its not pay monthly so any child and his dog can play, and i dont want to keep harping on about it, but until youve played the game with a vast majority of foreigners you cant communicate with in the towns (chatrooms-spam rooms, call them what you will), you dont know how lonely it can be out there.
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Spartan2
Lion's Arch Merchant
#12
The game really picks up during End game, which may seem bad, but most immature people will not make it to the Ring of Fire. Everyonce in awhile their will be a very immature bunch of kids in your party, but what they lack in the social interractions department, they make it up in skill.
Adaria
Adaria
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
It is sad reading this... A guild that doesn't help its members? Jeeze thats sad... If anyone and I mean anyone wants to be in a tight knit group where we're all friends and actually help each other with quests or getting better armor and such, just look up mine in the listing.

I find it sad that the way people act at times in GW is causing it to give it a bad image, not necessarily the game, but just the entire fandom. I'm always willing to give a hand when I can. Even if I'm in the middle of a mission with someone else, I'll finish it, and then come to help you as soon as possible. I expect nothing in return, I just want to help people have an enjoyable gaming experience, like it SHOULD be.
DrSLUGFly
DrSLUGFly
Desert Nomad
#14
Try the international district. I've encountered none of the problems that I often read about except for people rushing in and aggroing a load of creeps and/or people going nuts drawing on the map... no rudeness, no idiots... and I've found lots of times people who help me reach a point or do a mission (lots of times I haven't too though).

Also I've met a number of cool and kind people too. I've joined a guild but they tend not to be active at the same times I am so I'm not sure if I'll stay with them or not. Your best bet is to find a guild.

Small guild = closer community, more sharing (likely)
Large guild = more possibilities for mission help/twinking etc.
The Wolf
The Wolf
Ascalonian Squire
#15
It seems like a lot of guilds may not help their members is because a lot of people just enter a guild so they can say they are in a guild and have a cape flapping in the wind behind them. They couldn't care less if one of their guildmates is stuck on a hard mission.
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Spartan2
Lion's Arch Merchant
#16
My philosophy is to help others whenever you can because you never know when you are going to need help from someone else. I always giv away items I do not need to lower level guild members, sell things to them at extremely reduced prices, like 50g for a Minor Rune, most of the time I just give it to them. So, help them out when they need it, as long as they aren't expecting you to bend over backwards, it is just fine.
Adaria
Adaria
Wilds Pathfinder
#17
We aren't sticklers about ours, but if someone is not working out... then well we have to do whats best to keep our guild together as a strong working community. We have ten members, myself and Corwin included, two share a computer, and the third isn't on much, due to personal reasons. However out of all of us, we seem to work well together. Sorry if I sound all advertising and such... I do not mean to.

But anyway, I've encountered a few international district problems, at least the times I was there...

There were some people from another country busting on me for being an american, or well I happened in at the wrong time it seemed. I made a comment about liking the UK chocolate [Mmm Cadbury Mini Eggs] and someone made a comment about 'Oh what a suprise, an american who likes chocolate'. Ok so, this is just a random thing, I was a little suprised at that, but I happened in at the wrong time. NOt always will you find these people, and not always will they be bad in the normal districts either...

It all depends on where you are, when you are. I rarely get help from random people on things, I've had a couple bad experiences, but thats why I have the guild so we can get to know each other while we play and such...

I just wish other guilds would get rid of thse freeriders who merely want capes, or a guild hall. -_-; Quite annoying, but it isn't my place to be commentating on that I suppose...
kowboi22
kowboi22
Pre-Searing Cadet
#18
See that really sucks and defeats the purpose. I'd rather be guildless (capeless) then in a guild where its just a race for having the most members. I understand the difficulties in having a community when you can only run into people in towns and each district is gonna have many different people running around too, but seriously, the lil shlts that district hop to gather dyes from noobies are really starting to bug me. Local chat is for chatting, not screaming out your wares. Use the damn Trade chat so I can turn that off and not watch you spam your listing. Sorry, got off topic a little. My point is are there any Guilds out there that actually help each other and go on group missions and stick in teams and do things together? I almost feel like a One-Quest-Stand. Once they've gotten what they want they leave me. It's kinda sick. I'm not a Quest *****. I don't see anything wrong with monogamous partying. Or maybe it should be termed monogamy questing. I dunno, it's late and I'm starting to crack
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Zaklex
Frost Gate Guardian
#19
First, as suggested the International districts, second, there are different language options. The problem with those is that most of the people who would play under their local language would be quite left out as you will find more people playing under the English language. So you can find, German, French and several others localized, you just need to select the language you want in your options menu.
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Garias Whitanian
Ascalonian Squire
#20
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Originally Posted by Zaklex
First, as suggested the International districts, second, there are different language options. The problem with those is that most of the people who would play under their local language would be quite left out as you will find more people playing under the English language. So you can find, German, French and several others localized, you just need to select the language you want in your options menu.

What the Dickens are you talking about?

you can change the language of the game in options, nothing else.