Trade Spam

Iron Amadeus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Kinship of Light

W/Mo

Problem: : Trade is getting to be a non stop flow of red text. And when a trade is actually made and offers coming, i find it hard to keep track of everything going by so fast. Not to mention it drowns out other chat such as Guild chat, team chat, general chat etc.

Solution : Bulletin Boards. Not an auction house. Just a Board placed in "major towns" where people can post what they would normal send through chat, ie. "WTS: Fiery Dragon sword Max dmg pst"
That text would then be listed onto the board and sent through to other boards across the world. The posts would automaticly be sorted into Buying or Selling depending on a box u check off, as well as a category of item. The post would indicate your district and name, and would have a hot link to message that person.

Conclusion : Chat would be cleaned up, it would lessen the hassle of trying to sell your item to one district, when now you can broadcast it to the world. A greater sense of global economy can be gained with a simple look at the boards, less people would end up paying too much for sumthing. Also with both buyers and sellers posting. Sellers can search directly for that special person that would want their item.

Note : Your posts will only remain on the board as long as you remain in a non-combat zone (removes hassle of catchin people mid battle). Posts are removed upon logging out.

Masut

Masut

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Dark Justice

W/R

Agreed. Trade spam as well as casino spam is making the towns and cities a very unpleasant place to be. They are now like back alleys, full of imbeciles and scum.

Ironsword

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Newport News Va

Unknown Warriors of Ascalon

W/R

lol i hate the trade spam most of it is all caps the only problem is that even now there's alot of people using the all chat tab to try and sell stuff it's extremely annoying but there's no way to stop them as a group if you're in the city and someone is spamming there needs to be a way of dealing with it like kicking them out of that district

shinseikaze

shinseikaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Dark Side Of The Force

E/Mo

you can turn it off..........

HOSKI1

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

That's why they should make trading like a store, you name your store, you put a price on the items then u just idle, just like the game RyL and also They should make storage that u could buy page maybe 10 plat then it opens another page for more storage like the game Ryl, I think a lot people would be happy if they seen a change
Like this

Hunter511

Hunter511

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Amadeus
Problem: : Trade is getting to be a non stop flow of red text. And when a trade is actually made and offers coming, i find it hard to keep track of everything going by so fast. Not to mention it drowns out other chat such as Guild chat, team chat, general chat etc.

Solution : Bulletin Boards. Not an auction house. Just a Board placed in "major towns" where people can post what they would normal send through chat, ie. "WTS: Fiery Dragon sword Max dmg pst"
That text would then be listed onto the board and sent through to other boards across the world. The posts would automaticly be sorted into Buying or Selling depending on a box u check off, as well as a category of item. The post would indicate your district and name, and would have a hot link to message that person.

Conclusion : Chat would be cleaned up, it would lessen the hassle of trying to sell your item to one district, when now you can broadcast it to the world. A greater sense of global economy can be gained with a simple look at the boards, less people would end up paying too much for sumthing. Also with both buyers and sellers posting. Sellers can search directly for that special person that would want their item.

Note : Your posts will only remain on the board as long as you remain in a non-combat zone (removes hassle of catchin people mid battle). Posts are removed upon logging out.
I think this is a great idea!!!!!

Downfall

Downfall

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Montreal, Canada

I love that idea .
I know you can uncheck trade box but when i'm looking for items to buy, its just impossible to read when you are in district 1 of lions arch and ascalon (where most trading takes place).

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

Good idea, but I do not really get why people make a huge deal about trade. I personally like it... when I see something I want. I buy it. If not I ignore it. I mean.. who actually goes to big cities to talk?

Downfall

Downfall

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Montreal, Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramus
Good idea, but I do not really get why people make a huge deal about trade. I personally like it... when I see something I want. I buy it. If not I ignore it. I mean.. who actually goes to big cities to talk?
Talkings not the issue, its got to a point were its hard to even buy items because people keep spamming their merchandise over and over.
Of course its not like that in every district but if the district is not full its usually empty . Also when i started playing guild wars and just got out of pre searing i found it hard to talk to get parties because ascalon is spam central.

jdwoody

jdwoody

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Austin

Quote:
Originally Posted by shinseikaze
you can turn it off..........
not really, the normal chat has just as much trade spam as the trade channel and ignore doesn't ignore anything but whispers...

If ignore were fixed this would be a non-issue...

Perishiko ReLLiK

Perishiko ReLLiK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Divine Guardians of the Soul (Soul)

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Masut
Agreed. Trade spam as well as casino spam is making the towns and cities a very unpleasant place to be. They are now like back alleys, full of imbeciles and scum.
Lol... Nice comparison, that's gave me a laugh.

Anyhow, i think this would take less memory/time to make then an auction house, and have the reasonably same effect. I LOVE THIS IDEA!

Hopefully the workers at anet can sympathize how bad the tradings gotten... it's way too hard and time consuming to find that right item you want... I normaly try to spam(Yea, sry its the sad truth of trading) each district, and then, when i Finaly get a response(If i havent gambled my money away from boredom) ill have to ask them what dist, and what price/list my price... and after all that, it's only if we both agree to the price... A HUGE hastle.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramus
Good idea, but I do not really get why people make a huge deal about trade. I personally like it... when I see something I want. I buy it. If not I ignore it. I mean.. who actually goes to big cities to talk?
You dont like rarer (dare i say) "Leet" Items?... i think i said that right... but, anyways, my point is: It's hard as hell finding the item you really want, cause me personaly... i want my character to be as "Perfect" as it can be, before going into the tournaments/underworld...

Iron Amadeus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Kinship of Light

W/Mo

The main reason i think the bulletin board would be better than an auction house is because trades are completed MUCH faster. and you can get ur item "now" rather than waiting 6-12 hours for the auction to end. Not only that but i love bartering, somthing you cant do with an auction, auctions are set prices and they can only go up. Plus they merely use gold as currency, ive done many trades where gold wasnt even in the picture. Trade with Iron, Steel, Parchment, other weapons.

isilwen

isilwen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

auction houses are great too if you can set buy it now option too. this game needs a auction house or trading board badly not having one in place from begaining of game was surprise to me as a seasoned mmo player

Iron Amadeus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Kinship of Light

W/Mo

Shall we put it to a petition see if we can spark up some NCsoft attention?

FaerieFly

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Tampa

Queen's Guard

I support any alternative to the current spamming of items and services in trade chat. Particularly aggravating are the clowns from mmporgguys.com offering quick delivery of gold for $29.95. Surely this violates GW's rules. However, every two seconds they clog the trade channel for up to a half hour before switching to a different district. It is most exasperating if you are looking for something to buy from another player or have something to sell yourself. I don't feel I should have to turn off trade chat and potentially miss out on an item I want because of the abuse of a few folks.

Siephl Marks

Siephl Marks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

FL

Arcane Union Exchange (AUX)

R/Mo

The fact is that offline markets ( that is, game functionality that allows you to sell items when offline ) is a standard feature in all major mmorpg's now. It's standard because the players love it... LOVE IT..

I feel this game is the best on the market now, however it is 5 years behind in this area of development ( In game item selling/buying )..

This something they will definitely add. If not what the OP's suggesting, it will surely be very similar whether you go "idle" or can actually just post stuff to sell offline like in both eq & wow.

BiggDunc

BiggDunc

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

StL

[FahQ] Fierce Alliance HeadQuarters

R/W

im a constant trader
and i have no problems with it

here is my solution

open your menu, then customize
drag your chat bot to just below your level bar

then turn off local and emotes channel
paste your ad in once a minute or two

when u get pms on these, turn off trade channel so u can keep track of who you are talking to

once you sell, just open trade again, and start pasting again
its not that hard

ive made almost 180,000g doing this

IGN Lord Dunc X
youll find me in L.A. and ASC d1 selling
PM ME if you need to buys something
i sell a lot of stuff for all classes, none <1 from max dmg

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

original poster is right about the problem, but i disagree with his solution

best solution is either an auction house, or let the players set themselves up as merchants

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

you can still turn that off, both normal chat AND trade chat

kalaris

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Warrior Nation [WN]

W/N

I read today that Effective Immediately Anet is banning people running Casinos and anyone who spams in the non trade channel... man I love this company

Quote = Guildwars Homepage

Due to the proliferation of casinos and their potential for player abuse, we will be blocking the accounts of those who advertise or operate casinos or other gambling schemes within the game, effective immediately. Players should be aware that casinos are a breach of the Rules of Conduct, as is the advertisement or promotion of cheats, hacks, of exploits. None of these things will be accepted within Guild Wars.

/Quote

Pwnd

Iron Amadeus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Kinship of Light

W/Mo

w00t. And yes, merchant stands would be cool. Even more so if they could only be built within an actualy Trade district.

Dagbiker

Dagbiker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Maryland

Quote:
Originally Posted by shinseikaze
you can turn it off..........
Ive been hearing this alot latley, and, its not that your wrong, but what if we took that approch with everything, it just wouldnt work, so yah we could turn it off, but why not change it. and make it better