PET ATTRIBUTE & LOCATION GUIDE

Dragon Incarnate

Dragon Incarnate

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Dragon Guild

I'm creating this guide for my guild, and thought I'd share.

FYI: Testing is underway to provide exact numbers on the various pets. This information is based on player feedback, but will more than likely change once the testing is complete! So far the information for Stalker and Lizard may be changing to show them as almost comparible. I'll update this post once the test are completed.

Available Pets:
This is a general list of the kinds of pets, not name-specific listing of pets.

Bear
Bird
Cat
Lizard
Warthog
Wolf
Spider



-- :: PET ATTRIBUTES :: --
Note that pet abilities are also tied to your level of Beast Mastery.
The higher your attribute level the greater the pet. Information
gathered from various posts, especially from GammaRay on gwonline.net.



:TANK:

Bear - Slow Speed, High Damage, High Armor - The bear uses the skill
called Brutal Mauling. When being attacked by pre-searing aggressive
bears, the skill doesn't seem to do any more damage than normal attacks.
As the bear's attack power increases, it may have a more noticeable
effect (it might just be a 10% increase or something, that you wouldn't
notice at the base 5~7 damage).


:MEDIUM DAMAGE/MEDIUM ARMOR:

Warthog - Average Speed, Damage, and Armor

Wolf - Average Speed, Damage, and Armor


:HIGH DAMAGE/LOW ARMOR:

Lynx (Cat) - Average Speed, High Damage, Low Armor

Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Average Speed, High Damage, Low Armor


:HIGH SPEED/LOW DAMAGE:

Moa Bird - High Speed, Low Damage, Average Armor

Strider (Bird) - High Speed, Low Damage, Average Armor


:ABOVE AVERAGE SPEED/HIGH DAMAGE:

Dune Lizard - Above Average Speed, High Damage, Below Average Armor


:LOW SPEED/HIGH DAMAGE:

Dire Black Widow Spider - Low Speed, High Damage & Poison Attacks -
Unknown Armor - touted as the most powerful pet in the game by the
handful that have gotten one. They start at level 20. Information is
sketchy on this, someone else with a spider has stated, "It had averge
damage, averge attack speed, averge defense, not alot of hp (i think)...
and have very very very low chance of poisioning (not completely sure on
the poison part yet)"




-- :: LOCATIONS FOR TAMING :: --

PRE-SEARING:

Bear - Wizard's Folly* (no longer available - patched)
Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Reagent Valley
Strider (Bird) - Ascalon fields
Warthog - Northernlands
Wolf - Ascalon Fields, Reagent Valley


POST-SEARING:

Bear - Lornar's Pass
Dire Black Widow Spider - Underworld (after setting the reaper free at the monument near the tortured spirit village)
Dune Lizard - Amnoon Oasis
Lynx - Kryta Areas
Melandru's Stalker (Cat) - Old Ascalon**
Moa Bird - Ascalon fields
Warthog - Denravi Areas
Wolf - Shiverpeaks


** - There's only one on the map, to the far West, near Gate Guard
Hollis (entrance to the Breach).

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Ginko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Illuminati

The search button is your friend.

--Ginko

Dragon Incarnate

Dragon Incarnate

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Dragon Guild

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginko
The search button is your friend.

--Ginko

This is a compilation of info on pets not questions on pets, no reason for me to search the forums for information I've already compiled.

Ginko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Illuminati

There are numerous threads and posts on Guild Wars Guru that have the same information as this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rook818
...and Ginko, his post is good natured and he's trying to be helpful. I'm not sure your response is warranted.
I never said it wasn't good natured, I'm simply stating that there are multiple sources on this topic and creating another one isn't needed.

--Ginko

rook818

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

I for one am grateful for the post. Thanks Dragon.

...and Ginko, his post is good natured and he's trying to be helpful. I'm not sure your response is warranted.

Ichorspring

Ichorspring

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Me/

This information should go into a permanent guide. There is a space setup for it under Creatures of Tyria (Tamable)...but of course, its empty. Enough people have questions about it that a permanent and comprehensive listing should be available. This is a good start towards accumulating all the data spread across multiple threads.

Tormunda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

This is very helpfull, no matter what the 'Use Search' wingers say.

Jizzy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

This is good info.

Had a pet fight in the arena. Bird vs lizard with no outside interference. The bird won. Unfortunately I didn't ask how much beast mastery the lizard's ranger had but I had 8.

Shadow_Avenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Stolen Dreams

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizzy
This is good info.

Had a pet fight in the arena. Bird vs lizard with no outside interference. The bird won. Unfortunately I didn't ask how much beast mastery the lizard's ranger had but I had 8.
Yep, and that is something I would actually like to know.
Beastmasters, the points spent in ratio to improved Damage / AC / HP for pet.
With the skills it is actually fairly easy to see, but other than that it is total guess work.

I use my pet Lizard alot, but only have 5 points in Beast mastery, I use it as a tank / distraction and a general way of chewing away at monsters HP.

Is it worth the points if you dont use the skills?
How much does the beastmastery actually effect the base abilities of your pet?

If very little, then if you use your pet as I do, there would be little to no point in putting points in beast mastery and they could be used more effectively elsewhere.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Actually I realize that there are different type of black widow...

The one about the averge dmg/speed/armor/hp was on the "elder" black widow, not dire.

I believe that each prefix is different.
Dire- more offense, less defense
Elder- averge
hearty- more defense, less offense

Also, I am afraid that each pet might have more resistance against specific element of attacks.... might... back in bwe, my warthog take less damage from a lightning orb than me when I was wearing aeromancer armor.

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

where is the tamable Hydra, I want it!

Leventh

Leventh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

michigan

Unforgiven Clan [UF]

R/Me

well organized, thank you.

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

There are snow wolves around yaks bend or borlis pass (ugh, SOMEWHERE in the shiverpeaks), arent these tamable too? I havent tried, im to partial to my melandru's stalker.

Lasher Dragon

Lasher Dragon

Draconic Rage Incarnate

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Alphahive

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madjik
There are snow wolves around yaks bend or borlis pass (ugh, SOMEWHERE in the shiverpeaks), arent these tamable too? I havent tried, im to partial to my melandru's stalker.
Yes they are, my pet Chopper hailed from just outside Yak's Bend. He has been retired though, I now have an Elder Black Widow named Ananasi in his place.

Dragon Incarnate

Dragon Incarnate

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Dragon Guild

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow_Avenger
Yep, and that is something I would actually like to know.
Beastmasters, the points spent in ratio to improved Damage / AC / HP for pet.
With the skills it is actually fairly easy to see, but other than that it is total guess work.

I use my pet Lizard alot, but only have 5 points in Beast mastery, I use it as a tank / distraction and a general way of chewing away at monsters HP.

Is it worth the points if you dont use the skills?
How much does the beastmastery actually effect the base abilities of your pet?

If very little, then if you use your pet as I do, there would be little to no point in putting points in beast mastery and they could be used more effectively elsewhere.

More info from the tests being done:

First to answer one question, pets have the same base level HP as we do at corresponding levels. Now there should be no more arguement over what pet has the best HP -- it's all about the pet's natural AL. So far it looks like the Stalker and Lizard have the same Armor Level (60).

Beastmastery seems to influence the pet's power just like Marksmanship, Swordsmanship, Hammer Mastery, and Axe Mastery do, for future reference. At 0, the pet does something like 35% damage, and at 12 it's doing 100% damage. Indications that damage increase after 12 points is relatively minor for swords and other melee weapons means that for the most part, it's probably not really worth getting 16 BM unless you want to crank the most out of your pet heals and attack skills.

Weapon masteries after 12 do have diminished power increases. 13 has 104%, 14 has 107%, and so on and so forth. It's really just not worth the trouble, the expense, and the drain on your HP to load up to 16 on weapon mastery attributes. Beastmastery seems to follow the pattern, so you should be good at 12 BM.

If you use a major rune of beast mastery on a tamer's mask, you'll get +3 BM. Counter the HP loss with a superior vigor rune (or major if you won't miss the 10 HP). Boost your BM up to 9, so that you now have 12 (9+3) BM total. You've just saved yourself 49 attribute points over having brought your BM up to 12 without any modifiers. With the right runes and equipment, you can make yourself quite diverse.


Thank you to all those who appreciate this information, hopefully this is helpful. As a note, most of this information is being gathered from those performing the test, I'm just sharing the information.

Dragon Incarnate

Dragon Incarnate

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The Dragon Guild

Thanks to Lasher Dragon for pointing this out. In my previous post I had mistakenly added a line which stated that a 16 attribute in Marksmanship would = 115%. This was copied from a different source, and I didn't proof-read my post good enough. I went ahead and removed that line. Based on my calculations a 16 in any weapon attribute would = 110%. If this is a mistake please let me know.

Darkest Dawn

Darkest Dawn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Ohio, USA

W/Mo

Very informative thread, many thanks to the author!

BigTru

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

This thread has so much misinformation...

If you want actual tested NUMBERS, look here: http://forums.gwonline.net/showpost....&postcount=123

All pets have the same Armor Level and attack speed and damage (with the exception of the spider, which has more damage output).


Sorry if this sounds rude, but it just seems like you were pulling infor out your ass.

Demon Rebel

Demon Rebel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Phoenix, Az

Kings of Chaos Knights (KoCK)

W/Me

Awesome Post - Thanx Dragon...

BigTru - who made both of these posts -> on this forum? and -> on the other forum? is there any correlation?

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Near Your House

I Used To Own [ IUTO ]

I Have A Spider...
It Doesnt Poison Yet I Have Her Over 3 Weeks.....
They Have High Armor,Low Health
Average Attack Speed,High Damage.
As Far As Ive Seen ... :P

And They Look So FUGLY
Id Rather Have A Moa Bird Anytime
They Grow Taller Than You

Chobby

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon Incarnate
More info from the tests being done:

If you use a major rune of beast mastery on a tamer's mask, you'll get +3 BM. Counter the HP loss with a superior vigor rune (or major if you won't miss the 10 HP). Boost your BM up to 9, so that you now have 12 (9+3) BM total. You've just saved yourself 49 attribute points over having brought your BM up to 12 without any modifiers. With the right runes and equipment, you can make yourself quite diverse.


Thank you to all those who appreciate this information, hopefully this is helpful. As a note, most of this information is being gathered from those performing the test, I'm just sharing the information.
Hi with what you said above, is there a difference with up-ing the BM to 9 first or applying the mask/rune first? ie. will they both end up saving the same number of points?

Torcher

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ironfist legion

E/Mo

I can't find the bear in Lornar's Pass. It doesn't appear at the start and it's soo far to find him with all those lvl 20-24 monsters running around and henc are only at lvl 10