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If your pc reboots playing guild wars, try un installing SP2. It worked for me on two totaly differnt machines.
It has made my laptop and pc both reboot time after time until i ininstalled SP2.
I had to share this with you as alot of people seem to have this problem. Have fun now ^_^
Do Not Install Sp2
gazlawson
Jahara Zeppelin
So, that's only your problem, I run Windows XP SP2, and it runs fine.
Your only 1-man, just because you get 1 problem, doesn't mean everyone gets it.
Your only 1-man, just because you get 1 problem, doesn't mean everyone gets it.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by gazlawson
Do not install Service Pack 2 for windows XP if you want Guild wars to run without rebooting your machine. It has made my laptop and pc both reboot time after time until i ininstalled SP2.
I had to share this with you as alot of people seem to have this problem. Have fun now ^_^ |
bull puckymy pc (with sp2) has never rebooted during GW
find another scapegoat
ZennZero
SP2 definitely has issues. The last statistic I saw said that 40% of PCs had problems they didn't have before after installing SP2. Updating all your device drivers and re-installing GW may help. Failing that, SP2 seems to have a lot less issues when patched over a clean install...
Jahara Zeppelin
Er, Loviator and myself have SP2, and I have no problems with any aspect, if anything, it's BETTER than SP1, and I presume Loviator is fine as well.
Tyveil
At my work we are in the process of converting all PC's to Windows XP Pro, actually we're pretty well finished (about 3 PC's left out of 140+). As of about 4 months ago, I started putting SP2 on all the machines, and I'd say we're at about 60% SP2 (that would be about 84+ PC's). Anyways, I would say the problems with SP2 are very rare and likely exhaggerated as I've had no issues with it so far and we run a slew of different software packages.
Oh, I also have SP2 on all 3 of my home PC's and have played GW on all of them without a hitch. SP2 wasn't the source of your problem. You probably had spyware or viruses on your machine that you failed to clean up before upgrading.
Oh, I also have SP2 on all 3 of my home PC's and have played GW on all of them without a hitch. SP2 wasn't the source of your problem. You probably had spyware or viruses on your machine that you failed to clean up before upgrading.
ZennZero
Don't get me wrong, I have installed sp2 on a half dozen or so PCs and not had any issues. I am just conveying what I have heard. I think the biggest issues were in office environments where specifc applications were breaking across the whole enterprise. Its probably really less of a Microsoft problem and more of a 3rd party software vendor issue.
Serafita Kayin
I'm gonna tell you to do it if you want your PC to work at all. They put a lot of stuff to take care of viruses and stuff on there, as well as upgraded the firewall and basically rewrote the back end of windows. It's all good stuff, some people just won't update their code to take effect. GW was written TO work on SP2 though...
Wind
SP2 has lots of problems if you install it on a computer that hasn't been reformatted in a while. Backup all of your things, reinstall Windows, then install SP2. It should work fine.
Atlantis
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Originally Posted by Wind
SP2 CAN have lots of problems if you install it on a computer that hasn't been reformatted in a while, or if the installation was funky ie over modem line, or interrupted. Backup all of your things, reinstall Windows, then install SP2. It should work fine.
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Backup your files
Format your harddrive
install windows
install drivers ie motherboard, video card, network card, sound
install sp2
install anti-spyware, (ie spybot or microsoft anti-spyware)
install anti-virus (if you so choose)
install guild wars.
Ramus
SP2 is a bad idea unless you are doing a fresh install, ive had nothing but trouble on computers upgrading them. Now as for my new computer with SP2, no problems at all.
Principa Discordia
I use SP2 and it works fine.
Brett Kuntz
Haven't has a single issue with sp2.
Numa Pompilius
Sp2 & guildwars work flawlessly here (and I've had zero problems with sp2 otherwise either).
gazlawson
was just a sugestion to peeps who had the restarting problem. had it on two of my pcs and a firneds, all three took off SP2 and it was fine. might work for some, might not work for others.
cannonfodder
Rubbish, SP2 has no problems with running Guild Wars, it's just an excuse for a pc thats already in poor shape, You continue running your pc without SP2 and sooner rather than later you wont be able to download any critical updates without SP2 on..
You need to find another excuse..
You need to find another excuse..
TwinRaven
Funny how people will take a side on an issue that isn't an issue...seriously. I had no problems with GW, but had SP2 previously installed. HOWEVER: When I installed SP2, it took me two weeks to fix all the graphics issues I was having with UT2004 and Doom3...Turns out Directx9.0c was causing a buttload of issues...I uninstalled and reinstalled and updated till my eyes bled....finally found the right combination of drivers and got it to work....If they guy says it screwed up GW, then it probably did...Why not offer advice instead of arguing like fanboys about the godly wonderment that you've experienced with SP2...who cares if it worked for you...The issue is, if it screwed it up, how can it be fixed...The warning may be overstated, but there ARE issues...chiming in with"it works fine, get over it" doen't help......<END RANT>
Divinus
SP2 here and no problems at all. I did, however, do a fresh install not to long ago and updated to SP2 directly after.
TIB
Had SP2 for a long time, and no issues.
TwinRaven
I give up...
TIB
Hey do a clean install. It is always nice to clean out the old stuff and a reinstall of the OS is nice to do from time to time. I reimage my machine every 6 months.
MaglorD
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I give up...
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Final Fantazy
I have sp2 and guild wars ran perfectly up until these strange err7 server problems today.
Moltov joss
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Originally Posted by gazlawson
Do not install Service Pack 2 for windows XP if you want Guild wars to run without rebooting your machine. It has made my laptop and pc both reboot time after time until i ininstalled SP2.
I had to share this with you as alot of people seem to have this problem. Have fun now ^_^ |
I have SP2 and never had problems with guildwars rebooting my comp.
gazlawson
unghh
All i was saying was it was rebooting after 5 mins of play for a few days when i got the game so i uninstalled sp2 and it worked fine, not one reboot. im probably wrong but for me i 'looks' like thats what fixed it. So i though ill pass this on incase anyone else has the same problem and hasnt tried that yet. No need to jump on my head with "you pc is the suck, sp owns all"
gotta admit you must be able to see why i though sp2 was making it reboot?
All i was saying was it was rebooting after 5 mins of play for a few days when i got the game so i uninstalled sp2 and it worked fine, not one reboot. im probably wrong but for me i 'looks' like thats what fixed it. So i though ill pass this on incase anyone else has the same problem and hasnt tried that yet. No need to jump on my head with "you pc is the suck, sp owns all"
gotta admit you must be able to see why i though sp2 was making it reboot?
Xight
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unghh
All i was saying was it was rebooting after 5 mins of play for a few days when i got the game so i uninstalled sp2 and it worked fine, not one reboot. im probably wrong but for me i 'looks' like thats what fixed it. So i though ill pass this on incase anyone else has the same problem and hasnt tried that yet. No need to jump on my head with "you pc is the suck, sp owns all" gotta admit you must be able to see why i though sp2 was making it reboot? |
gazlawson
Yeah, even tried a clean format. Crazy eh? Oh well at least its fixed now ^_^
Wesley Wyndam-Pryce
running SP2 here, GW works fine for me
always keep windows up to date, never know what loopholes someone will use aganist you
always keep windows up to date, never know what loopholes someone will use aganist you
Apophis Jaan
I wish my restarting problem was so simple. Ok heres the rundown...
Windows XP pc (SP1)
added 512 PC3200
installed GW, played fine for a hours then resetted itself
swapped ram slots
played GW for a few hours again then resetted
did nothing, played GW for 30 minutes then resetted
Defragged, played GW fine for a few hours then resetted
did nothing, played GW for a hours, then it resetted.
REFORMATTED
Installed up to SP1
installed latest direct X and drivers
removed the old ram
Played GW for 12 noon to around 8:30pm, then it resetted itself
removed the new ram, replaced the old ram
played GW for 30 minutes or so then it resetted itself
As you can see not once has SP2 touched my system, explain that! Can I get a big WTF?!
Windows XP pc (SP1)
added 512 PC3200
installed GW, played fine for a hours then resetted itself
swapped ram slots
played GW for a few hours again then resetted
did nothing, played GW for 30 minutes then resetted
Defragged, played GW fine for a few hours then resetted
did nothing, played GW for a hours, then it resetted.
REFORMATTED
Installed up to SP1
installed latest direct X and drivers
removed the old ram
Played GW for 12 noon to around 8:30pm, then it resetted itself
removed the new ram, replaced the old ram
played GW for 30 minutes or so then it resetted itself
As you can see not once has SP2 touched my system, explain that! Can I get a big WTF?!
Principa Discordia
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Originally Posted by Apophis Jaan
As you can see not once has SP2 touched my system, explain that! Can I get a big WTF?!
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As someone else has already mentioned, GW was coded with SP2 and firewalls in-mind. These things should rarely, if ever, cause a serious issue such as BSOD or hard resetting.
The first thing that people should check in regards to resets is if their PC is overheating, followed by checking BIOS settings, then checking for spyware and viruses. Good luck.
Apophis Jaan
What exactly would I be looking for in the bios?
Principa Discordia
Things like settings for RAM, or anything else that could cause a serious error.
Also check if your PC is set to shutdown if it reaches a certain temperature.
Also check if your PC is set to shutdown if it reaches a certain temperature.
aeroclown
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bull puckymy pc (with sp2) has never rebooted during GW find another scapegoat |
SOT
Sp2 does several things really well:
It keeps out a larger chunk of morons with too much free time and pr0gs.
It stabilizes XP if your preventative maintenance is SOUNDLY COMMON.
It helps with some cosmetic stuff and basic functionality for updates etc.
Sp2 does several other things even better:
Not only does it keep you safer than before from the "wild world" outside your ports, it also keeps you FROM IT. PC gamer ran a huge article about how SP2 can cause chaos with your gaming, making it nigh impossible to run a game with any certainty online. One example is me, I run a Quake III server at times. No matter WHO or WHAT LOCATION attempts to join my game, it simply does not exist in the server list. After uninstalling SP2, my games run fine.
You can also disable that god DAMN internet connection LAMEWALL manually, but, like the version of microsoft messenger that comes with XP (no matter how many times you close it, it runs again, so close it, delete the exe before it can again, and save yourself ram and anger from people who see you online but you never respond due to being unaware), it never truly turns off.
SP2 is a great update for people who live journal and read myspace all friggin day. For gamers, the value is questionable. I recommend you get a firewall, both physical and or software, and route all your games through one secure, open port to avoid the bullshit that SP2 invariable caused me...
Good thread
It keeps out a larger chunk of morons with too much free time and pr0gs.
It stabilizes XP if your preventative maintenance is SOUNDLY COMMON.
It helps with some cosmetic stuff and basic functionality for updates etc.
Sp2 does several other things even better:
Not only does it keep you safer than before from the "wild world" outside your ports, it also keeps you FROM IT. PC gamer ran a huge article about how SP2 can cause chaos with your gaming, making it nigh impossible to run a game with any certainty online. One example is me, I run a Quake III server at times. No matter WHO or WHAT LOCATION attempts to join my game, it simply does not exist in the server list. After uninstalling SP2, my games run fine.
You can also disable that god DAMN internet connection LAMEWALL manually, but, like the version of microsoft messenger that comes with XP (no matter how many times you close it, it runs again, so close it, delete the exe before it can again, and save yourself ram and anger from people who see you online but you never respond due to being unaware), it never truly turns off.
SP2 is a great update for people who live journal and read myspace all friggin day. For gamers, the value is questionable. I recommend you get a firewall, both physical and or software, and route all your games through one secure, open port to avoid the bullshit that SP2 invariable caused me...
Good thread
Principa Discordia
SOT, Quake III is how old? When Microsoft released SP2 they made it perfectly clear that it could mess up some functionality on software that doesn't have true developer support anymore. They even posted a huge list of specific applications and games which may have problems, many of them were even older Microsoft games.
However, many recent games have released patches for SP2, and games developed since the release of SP2 have been designed with SP2 in mind. Guild Wars is one of those games.
As for Windows Messenger there's an option in that application to stop it running when Windows starts up, and even then, you only need to run a simple Google search for the script to uninstall it (if you're too lazy to do it yourself.) The firewall is even easier to disable.
I think that too many people in this thread are simply venting.
Thank you.
However, many recent games have released patches for SP2, and games developed since the release of SP2 have been designed with SP2 in mind. Guild Wars is one of those games.
As for Windows Messenger there's an option in that application to stop it running when Windows starts up, and even then, you only need to run a simple Google search for the script to uninstall it (if you're too lazy to do it yourself.) The firewall is even easier to disable.
I think that too many people in this thread are simply venting.
Thank you.
SOT
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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia
SOT, Quake III is how old? When Microsoft released SP2 they made it perfectly clear that it could mess up some functionality on software that doesn't have true developer support anymore. They even posted a huge list of specific applications and games which may have problems, many of them were even older Microsoft games.
However, many recent games have released patches for SP2, and games developed since the release of SP2 have been designed with SP2 in mind. Guild Wars is one of those games. As for Windows Messenger there's an option in that application to stop it running when Windows starts up, and even then, you only need to run a simple Google search for the script to uninstall it (if you're too lazy to do it yourself.) The firewall is even easier to disable. I think that too many people in this thread are simply venting. Thank you. |
How is common sense venting?
Principa Discordia
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Well if it helps you sleep better at night, I used Quake III as an example. All games I own did the same thing, post install of sp2. Pre, they didnt. So, yeah.
How is common sense venting? |
I and hordes of others refuse to live without SP2 now.
King of Fools
every single windows service pack and update will change settings. i mean that is why the put them out. the only thing i noticed is that i had to close ports and disable services that the service pack for some reason opened up again.
for reference
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...m_gamesp2.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2
for reference
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...m_gamesp2.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2
Principa Discordia
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Originally Posted by King of Fools
every single windows service pack and update will change settings. i mean that is why the put them out. the only thing i noticed is that i had to close ports and disable services that the service pack for some reason opened up again.
for reference http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...m_gamesp2.mspx http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2 |
Thanks King Of Fools. 
Lee Youngjin
Only beef I've had with SP2 is the Dr. Watson bug detector acting up. Yes it is a part of Windows. I'm pretty sure it's just due to some buggy software on my machine. Not so much as a virus, spyware, or ad-ware. Just a bug. Dr. Watson detects small things and freezes your computer in a desperate attempt to stop it from doing something. Read up about it in FAQs, it is easily disabled.
Other then that, I put SP2 on every machine that I format for family and friends. No one has any problems with it.
Other then that, I put SP2 on every machine that I format for family and friends. No one has any problems with it.