Guilds system!

OK, i have a good idea for a new Guilds ladder system, thanks go to Agent Dark bootie for sparking this idea:


Ok, good idea,

Now how do you decipher serious players from the usual riff-raff

Because you didn't come up with an idea of how to I will for you.

To decipher between deserving players they need to base it on the players in the guild, i have two suggestions. Either you can only make a guild at a certain level, and can only join guilds at a certain level, then you cant get a guild cape or guildhall till one of your players is at a certain level, so you Basically work to earn your guild credentials.

OR

Have a leagues system like in sports,you enter a tournament, you have various things such as Play-offs, quarter finals semi finals etc. then the winning guild goes up to the next League. I recommend the leagues be named ina grade system (A B C D...) then there will be many different leagues for each grade (like the district system in towns) to support the amount of guild there are. Then when you get to say, League C you can have a cape, etc.

Then maybe if a guild doesn't get out of league F in a certain number of tournaments or in a certain amount of time, the guild is destroyed because its apparent that they either dont deserve one or they made it for the pure skae of having one (perhaps if that happened the price of guilds would have to be lowered).

Please give me feedback on this idea.

Even as a member of an Alpha guild, I don't see your logic here. Why punish people by not letting them make guilds? And why delete guilds just because they choose not to be as competitive? It's a way for people to have easy contact with friends in the game. It's a way for people to look for support and aid with people they trust. It's a way for people to get quick groups and not waste time pruning through the jerks at the Tombs or in missions (we've all come across teams like that even if they aren't as frequent as in other games).

If the guild creation is a serious problem for the developers then I am sure they will implement more restrictions if needed. Maybe I'm just misreading something (especially the quote cause I never understand what that person says in their posts) but it seems to me you are trying to say that the game shouldn't let people-with-better-things-to-do-than-grind-in-a-game-designed-to-ease-the-problem-of-grinding enjoy the benefits of joining or creating a guild.

then perhaps the solution is guilds for competition and have a something else for easily joining your friends party

why does there have to be a division... if your guild doesnt want to compete, find one that does... I particularly am not in a guild for compition, im in a guild because i play with my brother and my friends all over the US and like having our own little group...

Guildwars is designed that anytype of player can have fun, why are you trying to break down the foundation of this game by making it more restrictive to pvp?

and if you feel you need a way to show that your guild is a strong competitive guild that has "deserved" its place... thats what the ladder is for, if your at the top people know your good

This just won't fly. Destroying guilds or restricting their access to things like capes and Guild Halls based entirely on PvP completely ignores the fact that guilds are not just for those who want to compete. Restricting them based on level isn't much better. There's absolutely no reason to punish people because they can't or don't wish to spend all their time trying to stay on top.

The ladder in itself is enough to differentiate highly skilled PVP guilds against those who arent. But even still, PVE guilds should not be disbanned because they do not want to participate in PVP. The idea of different leagues is a pretty cool idea tho, but tournaments kinda take care of that.

On a related note: Does anyone know if titles will be given to succesful guilds. For example: 2005 Tournament Champions, or Summer Tournament Finalists. Little things like this could add spice to the ladder.

I agree, there should be no limation as to who can do a guild or for what reason they are, but I do have a question. What is the ladder?

I really like this idea. I was thinking it'd be cool to have trophies or something associated with each title. That way, they could be placed as display pieces (maybe statues or something) in Guild Halls. Of course, then you'd need to be able to allow people outside your guild to visit your Guild Hall, which is another issue entirely.

Guildwars has a ladder system in place ranking each guild

If you beat a guild better than you, you move up, if you lose to a guild worse than you you move down... (summerized version)

And take away the enjoyment of having a Hall in which friends can associate, organizations from which parties can be assembled among friends, facilities which at some point may include things like storage lockers... just because PvP isn't their thing?

Look at it this way, if you're in a PvP guild and after your first win you rank 212th on a ladder of 1067 guilds, that's not really a bad thing. Maybe even a little encouraging in the days of your earliest competitions. The PvE guilds aren't your problem, at that point.

OTOH, it might be nice to see some kind of independent ladders for PvEers, say based on # of successful missions by all-guild parties, or cumulative amount of character experience, or something, but that's sort of an afterthought, and I'm not sure how it'd be best done.

There aren't enough missions to support an idea like that, it's not hard to beat every mission first time, besides everyone would exploit it by doing an easy mission over and over.

OK, get rid of that bit of my idea and give me feedback, nobody seemed to comment on anything other than that paragraph Also i thought maybe having cash rewards for winning leagues?

Argh, sorry for double-posting!