Price of sigils droping fast

Playful Kitty

Playful Kitty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Woot go to lions arch and look at the people selling sigils for like 50k /dance. Sigils are dropping faster then they was raising and thats pretty fast lolz.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

You can buy them at the Sigil trader for once now as well, the price I saw was about 78k, but that will surely drop or rise with supply and demand at the trader alone.

It is good to see the changes happening quickly now.

No more of this 100k nonsense...

So what will be next on the list of change around the game hm?

Sarus

Sarus

Ministry of Technology

Join Date: Feb 2005

Washington D.C.

Idiot Savants

Mo/

Quote:
So what will be next on the list of change around the game hm?
Just ask yourself, "How can Anet add more grind for PvP players" and you'll have your answer

Norbix

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarus
Just ask yourself, "How can Anet add more grind for PvP players" and you'll have your answer
There is no grind. What are you talking about? Grind is leveling. Leveling in this game is easy.

What you're talking about is farming. Farming is very different from grind. Don't confuse the two.

Kostabi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

R/Me

I saw some at the trader last night for 100k. A few hours later they were down to 80k, no idea what it's at today.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

Personally, the 'grind' only happens to PvP players themselves, because they cannot seem to enjoy the game, and now thats all I have to say before this turns into yet ANOTHER notorious kitty flame thread...

Please, lets not get into this grind issue again, its been beaten to a pulp enough as it is...

Sam Katha

Sam Katha

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada

Furniture Liberation Army

N/Me

Puts on Flame retardant suit. again

Dred Skullord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Neverland Ranch

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R/Mo

50k for a sigil is too high. Don't spend more than 25K.

chalt2

chalt2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ohio

Heros of Oakhurst - Leader

E/R

It would seem that the next step in regards to a fix would be to enable the PvP only crowd the ability to gain runes, skills and other items that are of benefit through the PvP system. Maybe instead of the Sigils or "X" number of points in fame there would be a Major rune, elite skill embeded item or something along those lines to drop and be rewards for doing well in the Arenas or HoH. This may not completely remove the need to "farm" or "grind" but it would be something, which is more than what they have now.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

50k is considerably better than 100k, I would be willing to pay 50k at this point after the price gouge fest. I got mine at 25k, which is reasonable, but I will wait to see how the market goes before saying what is and waht isn't a good price. I think we'll all agree that under 75k is a good thing...

souleater078

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Oynx Guild

W/E

i say its better to make it easier to win 1 in the first place

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though less prices are the better 4 the game

mostro

mostro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adaria
Personally, the 'grind' only happens to PvP players themselves, because they cannot seem to enjoy the game, and now thats all I have to say before this turns into yet ANOTHER notorious kitty flame thread...

Please, lets not get into this grind issue again, its been beaten to a pulp enough as it is...
Well ANet made some changes to the sigil distribution because they listened to the players. Maybe if the PvP players complain enough ANet will listen to them and changed the "grind" too?

All I can say is that re-zoning to an EA 20 times just to get a boss appear is tiresome. And sometimes the said boss only use the elite skill once during the battle; if you missed it then you have to zone to reset the boss again. Multiply this with the amount of elite skills (granted not all elites are this hard to get) and you get the picture...

Playful Kitty

Playful Kitty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adaria
Personally, the 'grind' only happens to PvP players themselves, because they cannot seem to enjoy the game, and now thats all I have to say before this turns into yet ANOTHER notorious kitty flame thread...

Please, lets not get into this grind issue again, its been beaten to a pulp enough as it is...
if you dont wnt it to be a flame thread then why did you mention flaming?

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

I bought mine half an hour after the update from the Sigil Trader for 65k. Why would I pay that much to the trader instead of waiting a day or 2 to get it for 50k or less in town? I want to support the Sigil economy in the way the devs intended it to work. You get a Sigil in HoH thaat you don't need/want. You step out to the Sigil Trader and sell it to her. She then sells it to the oh-so-hated PvE players who want (but apparently don't need) a Guild Hall. I don't mind that I paid that price to the trader. I'd have paid more. Just so that the Sigil portion of the economy works in the manner in which it was designed.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

I would rather buy from the trader now that they have them then a player for cheaper. It would be easier to get rather thans pamming "WTB SIGIL" etc.

I'm very happy to actually see the sigil market implimented by the game being used rather than player and Player now it can be player and trader a bit as well to mix things up.

Edit: Changed my post since it was not needed.

Playful Kitty

Playful Kitty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adaria
Merely stating that I could forsee another flame coming, and asking that it not turn into one.
But why mention it.... thats like the sign to start flaming.

Corwin_Andros

Corwin_Andros

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

W/E

Would someone please explain to me why SOME people think they ALWAYS have to get the last word in. Even my 9 year old has about outgrown that particular habit.

/[end rant]

Like Adaria said... we got very lucky when we got our sigil a while back at 25k. It's goin to be interesting to see where the prices finally settle down at. I think in part its going to depend how good a deal the players with sigils are getting from the trader and what the traders are actually selling them for. Ought to make for a bit of haggling. Especially if the potential buy has a few rair unidentifieds to throw in.

PhineasToke

PhineasToke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

in a house

Phantom Menace

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by dansamy
I bought mine half an hour after the update from the Sigil Trader for 65k. Why would I pay that much to the trader instead of waiting a day or 2 to get it for 50k or less in town? I want to support the Sigil economy in the way the devs intended it to work. You get a Sigil in HoH thaat you don't need/want. You step out to the Sigil Trader and sell it to her. She then sells it to the oh-so-hated PvE players who want (but apparently don't need) a Guild Hall. I don't mind that I paid that price to the trader. I'd have paid more. Just so that the Sigil portion of the economy works in the manner in which it was designed.
Gee, a month into the game, and the PVE players should be denied the same access PVP players enjoy? I DO mind paying huge ammounts of gold as a casual player. PVE players don't have the same opportunity in the economy and that should be addressed. Playing 6 hours gets me about 1200 gold, and that makes it discouraging.

This is a cooperative game, and just because we as PVE players want a Guild Hall shouldn't mean poop to Shinola (you probably are way to young to know what Shinola was) to any PVP player. We'll do our thing, you folks can do yours. THAT is the intent of the game.

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

R/A

I think the rest of the henchies should be added to PvP. People could win there own sigils that way. Not that the hench group would win in the Hall, but rather when the pick up groups start getting killed by henchmen, maybe it will shape up some of those people who think they can win even without working with the team. Once the average pick up group starts getting beaten by henchmen, that may be the day we see better groups.

What I mean to say is, Its easier to pick up henchmen and go out side of lions arch and just kill things till you have 60k (sad place to make money) then it is to find a good group.

Also I think the TS/Vent issue needs to be cleared up.

C-Tzar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

North AL, USA

E/Mo

Farming with henchmen?!

Redfang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Hope And Glory

W/Me

Alan Greenspan will be stepping down as Chairman of the Federal Reserve soon. No replacement has been settled upon.

I nominate Gaile Gray.

Great job on bring the cost of this item back in line!

Sarus

Sarus

Ministry of Technology

Join Date: Feb 2005

Washington D.C.

Idiot Savants

Mo/

Quote:
Alan Greenspan will be stepping down as Chairman of the Federal Reserve soon. No replacement has been settled upon.

I nominate Gaile Gray.

Great job on bring the cost of this item back in line!
Are you being sarcastic?

Linkie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Norway

P/W

Wow. I'm certainly hoping that was irony.

Vanquisher

Site Contributor

Join Date: Mar 2005

Herts, UK

One Hitter Quitters [QQ]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfang
Alan Greenspan will be stepping down as Chairman of the Federal Reserve soon. No replacement has been settled upon.

I nominate Gaile Gray.

Great job on bring the cost of this item back in line!
Oh dear.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhineasToke
Gee, a month into the game, and the PVE players should be denied the same access PVP players enjoy? I DO mind paying huge ammounts of gold as a casual player. PVE players don't have the same opportunity in the economy and that should be addressed. Playing 6 hours gets me about 1200 gold, and that makes it discouraging.

This is a cooperative game, and just because we as PVE players want a Guild Hall shouldn't mean poop to Shinola (you probably are way to young to know what Shinola was) to any PVP player. We'll do our thing, you folks can do yours. THAT is the intent of the game.

Hmmm. I think someone failed to read the /sarcasm in my post. I am a PvE player. I worked my butt off for the 80k my account had in storage. We were steadily being outpaced by the rising Sigil price. I am a "casual gamer" as well, and I can farm 1500k in roughly an hour.

As for my age (like it's really any of your business), I am 29, 30 in June, which is probably twice the age of the average GW player.

Nim

Nim

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

USA.CT

PANiC AttAcK

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by dansamy
I am 29, 30 in June, which is probably twice the age of the average GW player.
I dont think thats true, maybe in many other games but I find that most of the players I have met are over 20. Some in their 30s and a few in their 40s! I would say the average age is probably early to mid 20s. Its a nice change from many other games where the 13 year olds run rampid.

-Nim

Redfang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Hope And Glory

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarus
Are you being sarcastic?
Which part? Rumors and speculations about Greenspan stepping down soon show up on the news all the time. I saw a program about it this week, as a matter of fact. "Soon", as in the next year or so. Not "soon" as in next week. So that part is true.

The part about Gaile Gray taking his place was humor. Or at least an attempt at humor.

The part about Gaile doing a great job was sincere.

Lazarus

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarus
Just ask yourself, "How can Anet add more grind for PvP players" and you'll have your answer

Sarus, check this out:

http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html

Hope that helps ease your mind.

Lazarus

DarrenJasper

DarrenJasper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by dansamy
I worked my butt off for the 80k my account had in storage.
Hey, you should become a PvP player! We never have to work for anything, sigils just fall into our laps...

joeljermon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfang
The part about Gaile doing a great job was sincere.
Gaile is community relations, not a developer.

Candyman963

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenJasper
Hey, you should become a PvP player! We never have to work for anything, sigils just fall into our laps...
Hehe

...I like you. You're funneh.

john little

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

UK, EU Server

And All That Could Have Been [AATC]

E/Mo

I think there is a lot of PvE and PvP player angst that really isn't needed. Most of the whining comes from players that are unwilling to participate in the 'other' part of the game. I've done my fair share of PvE and PvP, got a couple of elite skills, done ok in tombs (though with PUG's it's always challenging) and find it fun. Most elite skills aren't that difficult to get, sure they take a little bit of time but so does getting good at PvP, finding the right builds etc.

A lot of the moaning isn't really 'i'm not having fun doing this', it's 'i want to win without effort'.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenJasper
Hey, you should become a PvP player! We never have to work for anything, sigils just fall into our laps...
I know! They just drop from the skies. It's raining Sigils in the HoH! [/sarcasm] <----(added that for the folks who can't recognize sarcasm without it!)

Seriously, I was sooo frustrated that the price of Sigils kept going up faster than my bank roll. I'm just happy that the Trader had them in stock and that I had the plat to pay for it right then, which I wouldn't have if I hadn't already been saving. I was also frustrated that many PvP Guilds were treating PvE Guilds who wanted Halls as though they were idiot n00bs. "You don't need a Guild Hall.", they said. Big deal. I may not need it now. But I might GvG later. And even if I don't, I still wanted a Guild Hall, and I was determined to get it, even though it was expensive.

My guild is mostly ultra-casual players. I am the 1st to reach Ascension, and I did that not 2-3 days ago. So that tells you a bit about our pace. Right now, I'm enjoying the PvE side of things. After a bit, we may (read - probably) explore PvP. I hold no grudges against the PvPers. I don't view PvE as "grind". I enjoy PvE, and I've dabbled enough in the PvP to know that I *might* enjoy it too.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nim
I dont think thats true, maybe in many other games but I find that most of the players I have met are over 20. Some in their 30s and a few in their 40s! I would say the average age is probably early to mid 20s. Its a nice change from many other games where the 13 year olds run rampid.

-Nim
Most games are very overcrowded with the 13-20 year old set, but many of them don't act any more mature than that age group. I honestly don't know the ages of the folks I run into in GW because I don't ask. And when folks ask my A/S/L, I usually don't respond. As soon as I actually admit to a game-player that I really am female, I get pestered for either a picture or cyber..... at least 9/10 anyway.

To be totally fair, I have met far more mature, reasonable, helpful people in GW than I ever met in D2. So far, I am truly enjoying this game, and that is as it should be.

Aria

Aria

Sig Fairy

Join Date: Feb 2005

Once upon a time..

Guys, please keep this on topic. The minute this turns into a flame-fest, this thread will be closed. This applies to *everyone* in this thread, and I mean everyone.

Please play nicely.