Headsets
Swarnt Brightstar
Can anyone tell me if it's worth it to get a headset to chat with people on guildwars to Formulate strategies etc.
Also does anyone know the average number of people on gw who have headsets
Also does anyone know the average number of people on gw who have headsets
Chev of Hardass
Yes, it is worth every penny.
The average number of people with hedsets, teamspeak/ventrilo, and the knowledge to use them, however, is unknown.
If you are tombing, your team will want you to have a headset, teamspeak, and ventrilo. You should not have to buy anything other than the headset.
If you are playing the underworld, or fissure, your team will want your to have a headset. Partly because these areas are very long and chatting is so much easier on a headset.
If you are playing GvG, for my guild anyway, teamspeak/ventrilo is not a luxury, but a requirement.
If you want to get an idea of how many headsets there are out there. Find out how many collecors editions there are out there, then add the number of players that did not buy the collectors edition because they already had a headset, and subtract the number of people that bought the collectors edition and already had a headset, then add the number of these headsets that were given away to friends so that they could chat without buying a headset, and then add the number of headsets that were bought because the buyers knew that the collectors edition headset can be uncomfortable.
Anyway, I play with my headset on and teamspeak running even if I am not directly playing with anyone on the channel. For some guilds it is just easier to chat over the headset.
The average number of people with hedsets, teamspeak/ventrilo, and the knowledge to use them, however, is unknown.
If you are tombing, your team will want you to have a headset, teamspeak, and ventrilo. You should not have to buy anything other than the headset.
If you are playing the underworld, or fissure, your team will want your to have a headset. Partly because these areas are very long and chatting is so much easier on a headset.
If you are playing GvG, for my guild anyway, teamspeak/ventrilo is not a luxury, but a requirement.
If you want to get an idea of how many headsets there are out there. Find out how many collecors editions there are out there, then add the number of players that did not buy the collectors edition because they already had a headset, and subtract the number of people that bought the collectors edition and already had a headset, then add the number of these headsets that were given away to friends so that they could chat without buying a headset, and then add the number of headsets that were bought because the buyers knew that the collectors edition headset can be uncomfortable.
Anyway, I play with my headset on and teamspeak running even if I am not directly playing with anyone on the channel. For some guilds it is just easier to chat over the headset.
Swarnt Brightstar
Okay... Thanks
Well that really stinks for me *sniffle* my dad *glare* says I cant get one because it's to 'personal'
Is it really 'personal'? please answer truthfully
Well that really stinks for me *sniffle* my dad *glare* says I cant get one because it's to 'personal'
Is it really 'personal'? please answer truthfully
Crazy thing of Doom
not really...i mean they hear your voice...its just a easyer wa of communication. Its your choice if you give your name or address out. To me its just like walking past someone and starting a convo...is that personal? you decide...
Swarnt Brightstar
Thanks I'll tell my dad *glare*... he still probably wont let me get it though *glare*
Crazy thing of Doom
good luck with that...
if that dosnt work ask him if you can get it with your own money
if that dosnt work ask him if you can get it with your own money
DrSLUGFly
I understand his concern... and if you're a girl (not an insult, a lot of gw players are girls and you can't really tell by the forum name) then it's all the more valid. But just explain to him that the only difference between a headset and typing is the speed of communication. Sure they hear your voice, but you would still exercise the same level of discretion that you would when typing. Just because you're actually speaking with your voice doesn't mean that you would be giving up your address, your personal stats (m/14/etc.). It's simply a game addition.
I'm quite sure that he's worried about your safety and not about the expense... Perhaps hunt around on the net and find a good site that represents why you should have this and why it's "safe." Above all else when asking for a headset, just like going in on a mission in the game, having a strategy counts for everything, nagging will make his NO all the more firm.
I'm quite sure that he's worried about your safety and not about the expense... Perhaps hunt around on the net and find a good site that represents why you should have this and why it's "safe." Above all else when asking for a headset, just like going in on a mission in the game, having a strategy counts for everything, nagging will make his NO all the more firm.
Sira
I personally dont see the need for any VC in tombs... guild battles and guild groups i can see using it for but for an average pick up group its rather useless in my opinion...its to hard to understand people for one when trying to speak over each other...its also much easier to just hit your macroed assist key then trying to figure out who is yelling GET THE $$$$ MONK lol. Dont get me wrong im not saying VC isnt worth it, I just dont think its as useful as this game trys to make it for just regular game play...with guild groups and what not its a lil different...in tombs ur just playing for fame and fun...but in guild battles ur playing for rank rating and fun...lil more on the line there so communication is very important. I would like to point out to people...VC DOES NOT MAKE A GRP, its the players and the skills that make it, so if a player doesnt have or use VC...dont flame them and call noobs, its really annoying to go to tombs these days and everyone spamming no noobs this and no noobs thats and get out of here you noob, this is a game where people have fun, and when people do the above mentioned things, you drive away good people and potential great players but thats off topic a bit....
My desk is always a mess so headset is better for me.
P.S. sorry to get off topic and go on my little rant there but i see way to many rude people on this game lately, and its sad really because this game is supposed to be about fun, not about insulting other races, religions, gaming skill levels or their mommas weight eheh thanks for letting me say my peice though and sorry for going off topic by 3 miles or so
My desk is always a mess so headset is better for me.
P.S. sorry to get off topic and go on my little rant there but i see way to many rude people on this game lately, and its sad really because this game is supposed to be about fun, not about insulting other races, religions, gaming skill levels or their mommas weight eheh thanks for letting me say my peice though and sorry for going off topic by 3 miles or so
Wa$d
Is there a fee to use team speak?
Sira
Not to use it no, you can download it and use it for free, but to host a voice channel it does cost
Aaaaagh
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Originally Posted by Swarnt Brightstar
Thanks I'll tell my dad *glare*... he still probably wont let me get it though *glare*
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On the upside, your dad does let you play online games and there are alot of parents who dont, so count your blessings.
You do not need a headset for GW, its nice, but definately not needed.
Tetris L
Voice com (whether it's via TeamSpeak or any other tool) definetly makes the game a lot more fun and a lot more effective when playing in a team. Thinks that take you ages to type can be clarified within seconds when you can talk. Plus ... you can often have a good laugh with your team mates.
But ... (and that's a BIG but) ... I have to differ: I found voicecom very effective when playing with friends (real life or guild), but very ineffective or even annoying when playing with strangers. In a random pick-up group you'll often find yourself face to face (or: mouth to ear, rather) with complete idiots, who start shouting abuses at everyone in the group as soon as things don't go the way they want it.
But ... (and that's a BIG but) ... I have to differ: I found voicecom very effective when playing with friends (real life or guild), but very ineffective or even annoying when playing with strangers. In a random pick-up group you'll often find yourself face to face (or: mouth to ear, rather) with complete idiots, who start shouting abuses at everyone in the group as soon as things don't go the way they want it.
I Elemental I
does any1 know how the normal teamspeak server is called( i mean for guildwars)
and is it free to connect yourself with those servers?
and is it free to connect yourself with those servers?
Tetris L
There are lots of different voicecom tools and most of them are free. TeamSpeak is just one of them.
AFAIK there is no official TS server for GuildWars.
If you want to speak with friends you can set up your own server or speak peer-to-peer, both free. If you don't have the bandwidth to run your own TS server there are many gaming websites and ISPs that run public servers free to use for everybody. Also, many clans/guilds run their own TS server.
AFAIK there is no official TS server for GuildWars.
If you want to speak with friends you can set up your own server or speak peer-to-peer, both free. If you don't have the bandwidth to run your own TS server there are many gaming websites and ISPs that run public servers free to use for everybody. Also, many clans/guilds run their own TS server.
Swarnt Brightstar
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Originally Posted by Sira
I personally dont see the need for any VC in tombs... guild battles and guild groups i can see using it for but for an average pick up group its rather useless in my opinion...its to hard to understand people for one when trying to speak over each other...its also much easier to just hit your macroed assist key then trying to figure out who is yelling GET THE $$$$ MONK lol. Dont get me wrong im not saying VC isnt worth it, I just dont think its as useful as this game trys to make it for just regular game play...with guild groups and what not its a lil different...in tombs ur just playing for fame and fun...but in guild battles ur playing for rank rating and fun...lil more on the line there so communication is very important. I would like to point out to people...VC DOES NOT MAKE A GRP, its the players and the skills that make it, so if a player doesnt have or use VC...dont flame them and call noobs, its really annoying to go to tombs these days and everyone spamming no noobs this and no noobs thats and get out of here you noob, this is a game where people have fun, and when people do the above mentioned things, you drive away good people and potential great players but thats off topic a bit....
My desk is always a mess so headset is better for me. P.S. sorry to get off topic and go on my little rant there but i see way to many rude people on this game lately, and its sad really because this game is supposed to be about fun, not about insulting other races, religions, gaming skill levels or their mommas weight eheh thanks for letting me say my peice though and sorry for going off topic by 3 miles or so |
No problem
Swarnt Brightstar
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Originally Posted by Aaaaagh
Thank your dad, for having a brain. It's nice to see there are still parents out there with some common sense.
On the upside, your dad does let you play online games and there are alot of parents who dont, so count your blessings. You do not need a headset for GW, its nice, but definately not needed. |
I have friends who are going to get it so it would be nice to be able to have instant chat etc.
and what's teamspeak?...
Swarnt Brightstar
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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly
I understand his concern... and if you're a girl (not an insult, a lot of gw players are girls and you can't really tell by the forum name) then it's all the more valid. But just explain to him that the only difference between a headset and typing is the speed of communication. Sure they hear your voice, but you would still exercise the same level of discretion that you would when typing. Just because you're actually speaking with your voice doesn't mean that you would be giving up your address, your personal stats (m/14/etc.). It's simply a game addition.
I'm quite sure that he's worried about your safety and not about the expense... Perhaps hunt around on the net and find a good site that represents why you should have this and why it's "safe." Above all else when asking for a headset, just like going in on a mission in the game, having a strategy counts for everything, nagging will make his NO all the more firm. |
He always makes me pay for it... He makes me pay for flipping books to read!
But then again I go to get new books once a month... and buy $70.00 worth
I'll try with all the strategies etc. but I'm still pretty sure he'll say no... (Maybe if I tell him I'll only use it for friends?)
And also is there alot of profanity that runs through the line? I dont really mind cause when I die I sometimes type "dam" but then I say "good try guys" so...
Oh yeah and I'm a guy so... My mom would probably had let me have it...
Do all headsets work on a dell-dimension 4700, penitium 4?
My dad does pretty much all the computer stuff... the other day he told me to get a new mouse I bought! installed... I nearly screwed up my computer
DrSLUGFly
teamspeak is what we've been talking about, just a particular brand or something... like ventrilo
shady_knife
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Originally Posted by Swarnt Brightstar
Thanks I'll tell my dad *glare*... he still probably wont let me get it though *glare*
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nothin personel about talkin with other people, they say something you dont like, just quit the teamspeak server. i havent bothered hookin up my headphones, my headphones are for cs, where you really need em, specially when warring ^^ ill prob get ts again soon, which one is more widely used, ts or this ventrilion or someting :S
Swarnt Brightstar
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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly
teamspeak is what we've been talking about, just a particular brand or something... like ventrilo
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Tetris L
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Originally Posted by Swarnt Brightstar
and what's teamspeak?...
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It is just one of many simular programs, probably the most popular and most common (which doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best ).
It is completely free, so ... give it a try.
http://www.teamspeak.org/ <- currently down? Search Google for other webistes.
DeathBound
Our guild requires it's members to be at least 18, reason being is Teamspeak and all the legal problems having kids and adults on a gaming channel together. Plus I don't like to have to filter my language.
DrSLUGFly
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Originally Posted by Swarnt Brightstar
And also is there alot of profanity that runs through the line? I dont really mind cause when I die I sometimes type "dam" but then I say "good try guys" so...
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Profane doesn't even come close. Hateful, vicious, racist, these start to touch on it.
NOTE: I'm not saying you'll come across this level of rudeness often, but if "dam"=profanity then you have to be prepared for some things that make the nastiest stuff you've heard sound like x-mas carols.
Numa Pompilius
I agree with earlier poster that girls (real ones) may want to think twice about using voicecomm except with people they know. I've seen one too many fps chats turn nasty because of hormone overload. There's of course gay paedophiles out there too, but not as many as there are oversexed teens.
Question: you guys run TS _and_ ventrilo? Why?
Question: you guys run TS _and_ ventrilo? Why?
Gauwyn Vorec
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Originally Posted by Tetris L
http://www.teamspeak.org/ <- currently down? Search Google for other webistes.
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Chev of Hardass
When I start Guild wars I also start Teamspeak. Even if I am questing by myself, I chat with my guild while I am doing it.
I have both programs loaded on my computer, because when I tomb I may fill in with a guild and they may want me to listen to instruction over the voice communication. No biggie. Sometimes I keep my guild Teamspeak connection going and have Vent going with a pick up group. That way I can chat with my guild and my pick up team. But, there are plenty of pick up groups that do not run Voice Comm.
I have both programs loaded on my computer, because when I tomb I may fill in with a guild and they may want me to listen to instruction over the voice communication. No biggie. Sometimes I keep my guild Teamspeak connection going and have Vent going with a pick up group. That way I can chat with my guild and my pick up team. But, there are plenty of pick up groups that do not run Voice Comm.
Jana
Now, see this topic has always been an issue for me. It really has, and after Shadowbane (for those of you who remember that dying game), I pretty much gave up on teamspeak / ventrillo for several reasons.
Being female, and sometimes the only female member of a group / guild, it seems things DO change, and change quite alot when it moves from an "impersonal" coversation of typing in a game, and actually talking to someone, even if you know you can just hang up at any time.
I mean, I have had enough "OMG, you're really a girl" to as stupid as "will you marry me" or as insulting enough as "do you like being on top?" LOL. Fortunetly I can laugh it off many times, but all I need is my boyfriend to walk into the room and see me with those headphones and having to explain talking to 18, or even 25 year old boys.
In SWG, I joined an "all female" group and that was pretty cool, though many did not use teamspeak or whatnot, cause frankly, most were not women, BUT THAT does not bother me, as long as they show some maturity, and MANY of these games are ROLEPLAYING anyway.
No... I like the fact that even though I play mostly female characters, most people are not 100% sure if I am female or male, and that's more than fine with me.
And for those of you who say you NEED this stuff to play these games, you don't. I can type VERY fast and communcate just as well with in game controls and such. Or I just won't join if this is a requirement.
That's just me. Though I think others have the same philosophy.
Jana
Being female, and sometimes the only female member of a group / guild, it seems things DO change, and change quite alot when it moves from an "impersonal" coversation of typing in a game, and actually talking to someone, even if you know you can just hang up at any time.
I mean, I have had enough "OMG, you're really a girl" to as stupid as "will you marry me" or as insulting enough as "do you like being on top?" LOL. Fortunetly I can laugh it off many times, but all I need is my boyfriend to walk into the room and see me with those headphones and having to explain talking to 18, or even 25 year old boys.
In SWG, I joined an "all female" group and that was pretty cool, though many did not use teamspeak or whatnot, cause frankly, most were not women, BUT THAT does not bother me, as long as they show some maturity, and MANY of these games are ROLEPLAYING anyway.
No... I like the fact that even though I play mostly female characters, most people are not 100% sure if I am female or male, and that's more than fine with me.
And for those of you who say you NEED this stuff to play these games, you don't. I can type VERY fast and communcate just as well with in game controls and such. Or I just won't join if this is a requirement.
That's just me. Though I think others have the same philosophy.
Jana
Chev of Hardass
Jana, you may be able to type very fast, but we can not all type as fast as you. Especially while devoting 99% of our attention to a battle. If you want to keep your animosity, you should say you do not have a headset, and just listen to the babble on the communication software. Most of the time, for a decent group that is the only requirement.
I decided I needed a headset after one night of listening to how fast my guild chat could go.
I have to tell you that if you think you can type that fast you may be right, but for groups that use these programs, the Guild Wars chat channel turns into nothing but a "game information" panel. Not a way to communicate. Often times written chat in that channel can get ignored completely.
I decided I needed a headset after one night of listening to how fast my guild chat could go.
I have to tell you that if you think you can type that fast you may be right, but for groups that use these programs, the Guild Wars chat channel turns into nothing but a "game information" panel. Not a way to communicate. Often times written chat in that channel can get ignored completely.
Jana
I agree, and do use it to listen many times, and have in the past, but suffice it to say, at some point it becomes a pressure tactic to actually speak. And it generally does not stop with just a NO. Maybe I have had little luck finding decent mature people who do not use profanity every other word (which I guess is alright, since that is normally how heterosexual males bond), or try to make you feel cheap.
At this point, I normally do get on and say something, just to shut people up, but then it all changes... something changes once 7 guys KNOW that there is a female on the other end.
I can't explain it... it may be a macho thing, or may just be a guy thing, but somehow, I feel like an outsider... like I have just invaded France yet again with my army
Anywho... just wanted to post something on this in case you all did not have the perspective I do.
Jana
At this point, I normally do get on and say something, just to shut people up, but then it all changes... something changes once 7 guys KNOW that there is a female on the other end.
I can't explain it... it may be a macho thing, or may just be a guy thing, but somehow, I feel like an outsider... like I have just invaded France yet again with my army
Anywho... just wanted to post something on this in case you all did not have the perspective I do.
Jana
Chev of Hardass
I have to say, I have not played on teamspeak or vent with any women.
I am sure part of that is because my guild has no "active" women players in it. And, the majority of the players (I am guessing here) are males.
But I would hope that a little serious game talk would send the minds right of most players.
Then again, I'm 25, not the oldest in my guild, and the only young players I talk with are pretty mature. I probably would guarantee that there are stupid people out there.
I would disconnect on anyone that was offending me over teamspeak/vent, reguardless of sex. I would suggest the same to you.
I am sure part of that is because my guild has no "active" women players in it. And, the majority of the players (I am guessing here) are males.
But I would hope that a little serious game talk would send the minds right of most players.
Then again, I'm 25, not the oldest in my guild, and the only young players I talk with are pretty mature. I probably would guarantee that there are stupid people out there.
I would disconnect on anyone that was offending me over teamspeak/vent, reguardless of sex. I would suggest the same to you.
Swarnt Brightstar
I'll remember that