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Wendel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

30 May 2005 at 00:58 - 1

Nothing ruins roleplaying (or my sanity) as quickly as someone who speaks only in single syllables, or someone who cannot refrain from using blatantly crude language. I know that I would sell my soul for the ability to do word substitution, either through an interface or through typing the right command.

For example:

i > I
r > are
u > you
plz > please
ur > your
grp > group
lolz > (lol)

Before:
Bob says: "r u doing bonus? can i plz join ur grp? lolz!"
After:
Bob Says: "are you doing bonus? can I please join your group? (lol)!"

Isn't that a world of improvement better? And it can even be done completely client side. I'll promise to buy the next expansion if we can get this

. If this suggestion appeals to you please make a post (bump it if you will) and keep this thread alive!

-Mr. Wendel

20 W/Mo
15 Mo/Me
16 E/Mo
(An addict since early open beta)

PieXags

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances

30 May 2005 at 01:01 - 2

As much as I like the idea, I would not want them to put it into effect simply because I want to know who actually says things like "lolz" and other such things, so I know not to party with them.

Devil's Dictionary

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Presumed missing...

Me/N

30 May 2005 at 01:24 - 3

That's a great idea.
No.
That's an amazing idea.
No.
That's an idea of the century. I am not kidding. I know I need more self-control but I actually explode from inside out when I see someone typing 'u' instead of 'you'. I don't care about grp, i or lolz but plz is also annoying.

Of course that won't help much. Today I read a (non intentionally) hilarious line.
Player: any1 sellin lenin plz???
Player: any1?
Wow! I mean Lenin didn't even have a crossbow, I bet!

Wendel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

30 May 2005 at 19:48 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by PieXags

As much as I like the idea, I would not want them to put it into effect simply because I want to know who actually says things like "lolz" and other such things, so I know not to party with them.

I dunno...

lolz > lolz(I-am-a-dimwit)

I think that would do the trick for me

Nokomis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Minnesota

W/N

30 May 2005 at 19:57 - 5

I would like an advanced chat filter so I could not have to hear ANY of the people selling crap when I didn't want to. I could just ask chat to not show anything with "buy" "sell" "WTB" or "WTS" and that would eliminate much of the problem. Most of the people smart enough to use words as big as "purchase" or "market" are also smart enough to click the little trade tab when they want to hawk their goods.

--Nokomis

Lunarhound

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

31 May 2005 at 01:03 - 6

Dark Age of Camelot has a customizable word substitution filter very similar to what you describe, and it really does make playing with others a lot more tolerable. To the person above who said he/she wants to see who's using internet shorthand, well... just don't use the filter.

Those who want to filter out that stuff, though, really should have the option.

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

W/

31 May 2005 at 01:12 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR

Player: any1 sellin lenin plz???
Player: any1?
Wow! I mean Lenin didn't even have a crossbow, I bet!

wow, I've seen that too. Completely hilarious...

But, am I the only other person that gets it?

Wendel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

31 May 2005 at 23:29 - 8

I confess that the Lenin/crossbow joke is over my head... (I even tried googling for it).

Playing last night led to yet another situation where I would have died for this feature. I'm sure you've all seen someone accuse another person of being a scammer (ie. selling Althea's Ashes for 2k, or a casino). Well that happened and out came the belligerent racial slurs and obscenely crude comments aloud for all to hear. Ignoring a player, unfortunately, doesn't hide their !all text and leaving the zone can be troublesome when you are busy getting a group together.

/sighs and /prays

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

31 May 2005 at 23:47 - 9

don't forget the all important one:

lfg > Looking for group

Problem with turning like 'r' into 'are' is that suddenly railroad becomes areailareoad.

You'd need an incredibly well programmed filter to do this with.

and Piexags, just don't inable the filter.

Xavz

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Wisconsin

E/

01 Jun 2005 at 01:50 - 10

Not really - just check for the string " r " instead of checking for the character 'r'. Not a huge headache to change that programming.

Rhunex

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Dark Nightmare

E/

01 Jun 2005 at 02:32 - 11

I'd agree that that would be an awesome filter, but like the second person said, I'd like to know who is saying what and who I shouldn't party with(because I don't want to party with a person who doesn't take there language seriously). I can stand people not punctuating(because I don't when I'm in-game) but when people are spelling me as mi to cut down time...yeah...then it's hit the fan. I think if this kind of idea went in to effect, they should have all the different types of filters(for bad language) and have them comboed up with this new filter in all the possible ways(9 being possible if you want light, medium, and heavy filtering for this new one).

Anyways, great idea, I'd like to see it in effect, if possible, and if it would be optional.

spiritofcat

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sydney, Australia

Order of the Sanguine Dragon [OSD]

E/Mo

01 Jun 2005 at 04:02 - 12

This sounds like a great idea, especially if it could be customisable on the client side, so we can choose what we want things to translate into.
One problem I see though is that sometimes those abbreviated words can mean more than one thing such as "ur" meaning You are, or your.

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

03 Feb 2006 at 12:14 - 13

I used the search button!

Bump. Customizable chat filter would rock.

What it comes to word substitution, maybe the replaced words would show on different color (a shade or two up or down compared to other text) and hovering/hitting a button would show the text as originally typed.

Another option would be redirecting lines with certain phrases, like 'wts'/'wtb' onto different channel.

phreakilla

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

napping some where in Snake Dance

The Alliance of the Dark Gate

W/Mo

03 Feb 2006 at 16:27 - 14

/signed

Verlas Ho'Esta

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

03 Feb 2006 at 17:04 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokomis

I would like an advanced chat filter so I could not have to hear ANY of the people selling crap when I didn't want to. I could just ask chat to not show anything with "buy" "sell" "WTB" or "WTS" and that would eliminate much of the problem. Most of the people smart enough to use words as big as "purchase" or "market" are also smart enough to click the little trade tab when they want to hawk their goods.

--Nokomis

I suggested this elsewhere. Any message with "WTS" "WTB" or "WTT" in it automatically gets posted in the Trade channel, no matter what.

While we're at it, any messsage with more than five mistakes that the spellcheck system corrects, doesn't get posted at all. That way, the idiot who can't speak correctly also can't say anything at all, so there's no chance of getting stuck in a group with them. A lot of people might not like it, but that's their fault for being lazy and/or stupid.

/signed

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

03 Feb 2006 at 17:19 - 16

/totally signed

Now I'm not the greatest at spelling but I also get annoyed with the lack of even decent spelling in GW. I would also like to see that anything with WTS WTB and WTT go right into the trade channel. Currently I have trade and local chat turned off because of all the crap. And those stars and *** and anything else people use.

I do however have nothing against LFG or GLF. Its a short form like saying FBI or CSI or LAPD.

I actually saw (which was funny) yesterday someone spamming "GLF wammos and momes invite yourself" (warrior monks and monk mesmers)

I would also like an option were I can enter words and short forms for words I find offensive so that my filter blocks them. During factions preview... I saw more "STFU u N**er" then I cared to see in a life time. I'd like a way to edit my own filter.

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

03 Feb 2006 at 20:22 - 17

Personally I prefer proper typing over netspeak. So I'm ALLLLL for this.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

03 Feb 2006 at 20:27 - 18

And something that turns:

WOW THATS COOL MAN => Wow thats cool man

>.< Caps hurt my eyes!!

/signed

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

03 Feb 2006 at 21:04 - 19

Unfortunately, if words like, ----roach, and ---hes for Barradin are any indication, the world filter isn't all that great. But, seeing as it'd be a choice thing, and I'm all for choices, I still support this.
People would just figure out how to make better use of the filter to fix what doesn't work out the way they thought it would.

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

03 Feb 2006 at 21:16 - 20

Excellent idea, I totally agree. I can't stand people who are too lazy to type a whole 2 letters more(like "r" and "are"), also people who speak 1337 FTW!!1!11! And those who don't seem to realize their caps lock is on. And the words "n00b"..."pwn"...and so on. I guess these people think it makes them look smart, that they notice how "Y" and "why" rhyme? I do hope they make some sort of customizable chat filter, that would make dealing with random people a lot less painful.

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

03 Feb 2006 at 21:17 - 21

a filter that exludes ALL CAPS messages as well, or make them smaller

a filter that exludes exact duplications of messages (well, this may cause problems with some groups looking for members that spams LFG)

as for moving wts, wtb, ...(etc) the culprits would only make slight alterations since they seem to desire to post it in the wrong place,

Here is a more radical suggestion: Since The general and trade channel is so cluttered at the moment that their function is almost nullified, how about removing them or severelly limit them.

Have a active filter (that may be turned off -im unsure about this) that only shows messages from friends in the friends list in the general channel (and trade) -people can still whisper or invite people into parties if they wish to talk to strangers of the public.

Perhaps the text bubble could still appear on top of the character, despite its not seen in the channel, making contact with strangers somewhat simpler. naturally a filter making this bubbles to dissapear should also exist.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

03 Feb 2006 at 21:23 - 22

errr..... Seems good on the surface, but dig a little deeper and you get:

some loser types: r u dion bons missn?
you see: are you doing the bonus mission?

Which has the side affect of leaving you unaware that said loser is an idiot who can't be bothered to type intelligently.

You click "enter mission", satisfied that each party member is a coherent individual. How wrong you would be...

Loser runs off, aggros mobs, shouts for healing in all caps, dies, spams REZZ ME LSRERS and I'm Dead! for five minutes before a) being ressurected and prompty repeating his performance or b) leaving.

No, can't say I want to be disillusioned on that front. Some jerkwad wants to type in all caps because "he likes them" or doesn't seem to realize his keyboard has vowel keys (maybe it was a model m and someone removed them?), I want to know, the better to not invite him.

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

03 Feb 2006 at 21:34 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verlas Ho'Esta

While we're at it, any messsage with more than five mistakes that the spellcheck system corrects, doesn't get posted at all. That way, the idiot who can't speak correctly also can't say anything at all, so there's no chance of getting stuck in a group with them. A lot of people might not like it, but that's their fault for being lazy and/or stupid.

Amen.

Keyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

03 Feb 2006 at 21:37 - 24

Good idea as long as it's optional.

Personally I prefer knowing who the idiots are. If they cant be bothered to type actual words it should be loud and clear for everyone else to cringe at.

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

03 Feb 2006 at 21:52 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cjlr

some loser types: r u dion bons missn?
you see: are you doing the bonus mission?

Which has the side affect of leaving you unaware that said loser is an idiot who can't be bothered to type intelligently.

Fix, which I already posted above: the replaced words are on different color, maybe bit darker or brighter than the channel's normal color, and by hovering over the text would show the real typing. Alternatively, holding ctrl-shift or something similar would temporarily disable the filter.

And since the filter would be totally self-configurable, doubt one bothers to type every f*cked up version of the word, but only the most common ones.

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

03 Feb 2006 at 22:05 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roupe

Here is a more radical suggestion: Since The general and trade channel is so cluttered at the moment that their function is almost nullified, how about removing them or severelly limit them.

Have a active filter (that may be turned off -im unsure about this) that only shows messages from friends in the friends list in the general channel (and trade) -people can still whisper or invite people into parties if they wish to talk to strangers of the public.

Perhaps the text bubble could still appear on top of the character, despite its not seen in the channel, making contact with strangers somewhat simpler. naturally a filter making this bubbles to dissapear should also exist.

Trade won't matter once the auction house system is implemented.

Mr D J

Permanently Unbanned

Join Date: Jun 2005

03 Feb 2006 at 22:39 - 27

oh cmon teh game wont be fun then any longer i r alwayz type like dis lolz

Verlas Ho'Esta

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

04 Feb 2006 at 00:30 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cjlr

errr..... Seems good on the surface, but dig a little deeper and you get:

some loser types: r u dion bons missn?
you see: are you doing the bonus mission?

Which has the side affect of leaving you unaware that said loser is an idiot who can't be bothered to type intelligently.

You click "enter mission", satisfied that each party member is a coherent individual. How wrong you would be...

Loser runs off, aggros mobs, shouts for healing in all caps, dies, spams REZZ ME LSRERS and I'm Dead! for five minutes before a) being ressurected and prompty repeating his performance or b) leaving.

No, can't say I want to be disillusioned on that front. Some jerkwad wants to type in all caps because "he likes them" or doesn't seem to realize his keyboard has vowel keys (maybe it was a model m and someone removed them?), I want to know, the better to not invite him.

Already suggested a solution. I'll repost it for you

"While we're at it, any messsage with more than five mistakes that the spellcheck system corrects, doesn't get posted at all. That way, the idiot who can't speak correctly also can't say anything at all, so there's no chance of getting stuck in a group with them. A lot of people might not like it, but that's their fault for being lazy and/or stupid."

I firmly believe in punishing the stupid. It's the only way they'll learn, if they can. They probably won't, but this would be the only way if they weren't quite as stupid.

reverse_oreo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scars Meadows [SmS] Officer (not recruiting)

04 Feb 2006 at 18:26 - 29

omfgz dis r teh stupid ideas.......you noobs omg why du you h8 on me cuz i r teh leet haxor typer plz dont h8 on me. freakinz weaksauzces. l4m3

hehehe

i agree with the chat thing, it would be nice for most people, but i love talking like this, i dknot know why. I am 21 years old and a graduate from college, but always typing nicely and with "proper" words and sentences upsets me. I play a game to have fun and not have to conform to everyones rules. so put it in for those who hate how i talk

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

04 Feb 2006 at 18:58 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verlas Ho'Esta

I firmly believe in punishing the stupid. It's the only way they'll learn, if they can. They probably won't, but this would be the only way if they weren't quite as stupid.

Apathy is stupidity? I'm generally a proponent of "don't be lazy" (oh god how I hate 'u') but I don't see any reason to force everyone to spell absolutely everything correctly or else.

A filter is fine. But to impinge on people's wish to type how they want is a bit too overbearing.

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Northern CA

Outlaws of the Water Margin

Mo/Me

06 Feb 2006 at 02:21 - 31

Great idea.
Here are my suggestions.

"wwwwwwwwwaaasd"=>"I'm a dope and I don't know why I keep hitting the chat."

"WTS"=>"I've been here in LA for a half-hour already, can someone please give me more money than I deserve?"

"WTB"=>"I've been here in LA for a half-hour already, does someone have a godly mod I can buy for 786 gold, because that's all I have?

"STFU"=>"I have no mature way of expressing my displeasure."

"Mo/W LFG"=>"I'm a 55 build. Please send me an invite so I can show you how useless I can be in a mission."

"W/E LFG"=>"I had this idea for a build in my head all day in class and I want to try it out with the lives of 7 other party members."

"Mo/Me LFG"=>"Mo/Me LFG without whiners."

"Me/Mo LFG"=>"Me/Mo LFG ... pleeeeaase!"

"W/Mo LFG"=>"I got the game yesterday. Can someone pls help me with the mission?"

"R/W LFG"(at ToA)=>"I just want help to cap the spider then I'll split."

"noob"=>"I'm a noob."

prodigy ming

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

06 Feb 2006 at 07:23 - 32

filter out the word "n00b" and all varient of it is all I ask for.

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

06 Feb 2006 at 07:29 - 33

I still say it should be self configurable, some preset filtering wouldn't just cut it

Verlas Ho'Esta

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

13 Feb 2006 at 00:57 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang

Great idea.
Here are my suggestions.

"wwwwwwwwwaaasd"=>"I'm a dope and I don't know why I keep hitting the chat."

"WTS"=>"I've been here in LA for a half-hour already, can someone please give me more money than I deserve?"

"WTB"=>"I've been here in LA for a half-hour already, does someone have a godly mod I can buy for 786 gold, because that's all I have?

"STFU"=>"I have no mature way of expressing my displeasure."

"Mo/W LFG"=>"I'm a 55 build. Please send me an invite so I can show you how useless I can be in a mission."

"W/E LFG"=>"I had this idea for a build in my head all day in class and I want to try it out with the lives of 7 other party members."

"Mo/Me LFG"=>"Mo/Me LFG without whiners."

"Me/Mo LFG"=>"Me/Mo LFG ... pleeeeaase!"

"W/Mo LFG"=>"I got the game yesterday. Can someone pls help me with the mission?"

"R/W LFG"(at ToA)=>"I just want help to cap the spider then I'll split."

"noob"=>"I'm a noob."

Actually, I made it all the way to Ascension with a W/Ele(Air). Then swapped out for monk for the increased survivability.

And you forgot a few.

"Lol/Rofl": "Hahaha"

"h8": "God I'm lazy, and don't deserve to use a computer."

"Leet," "Haxor," and "1337": I'm a pre-teen brat who has no idea how to type in true ascii, and have no right to attempt to type in "leet speak" until I actually know where it is from and what I'm doing. As I am probably not smart enough or patient enough to learn to type entirely in ten-key, my computer will now reformat itself. I'm sorry for being stupid and/or lazy.

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

13 Feb 2006 at 03:51 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang

"STFU"=>"I have no mature way of expressing my displeasure."

Heh, That sounds about right.

Well I think this advanced filter or what not is a very good idea, however my filter works fine, but of course you can not read anything when chat is turned off. So this may actualy be a good idea, the only bad thing is you know some dude with way too much time on their hands are just going to find lamer ways of expressing themselves.

Some filters I would put in are

OMG I why does my team always suck? = Hmm, every team I am on seems to lose, I wonder if it could have anything to do with my character.

OMG NOOBS! = Whoops hit the caps lock sorry.

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

13 Feb 2006 at 07:45 - 36

This is easily implementable if Arenanet made a txt file to put in your GW folder. Column 1 would be the original word seen in chat, and column 2 would be its replacement. Neverwinter Nights does this, and it is customizable by even the most computer-illeterate people.
Thyen again, they could also put it under advanced game options.

Charqus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

13 Feb 2006 at 16:44 - 37

I dont like the idea becos (lol) i sometimes find it easier to read shorter words than longer words. And ppl swear with out being to rude with shortened form. So in this idea if you said ffs would it say FOR F*CKS SAKE!!!
so without bein to rude i dont see wtf for

lol (laugh out loud!) hehe