Bug in game allows weapon stealing read....

PHANTASM

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

This guy asked if he could see my weapon, so I started trade

right when I was going to submit he canceled the trade.

My weapon falls to the ground he picks up my weapon and leaves the group.

I dont understand why a person would do this?

I had my weapon customized so its no use to him.

Is there anyway to fix this bug he will do this to someone else.

People are proud of there weapons and will show them to people.

This bug exposes people's rare items.

I'm just disgusted by this.

if you read this I hope you can look your self in the mirror knowing

your a scam.

BTW I submited this to support team at guild wars

dwarf stomper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHANTASM
I dont understand why a person would do this?

I had my weapon customized so its no use to him.
well most people have upgrades on their weapons, sometimes some really good ones, he can just salvage it and get a free upgrade from it

it was only a matter of time before people would figure out a way to scam people, its just like the red dye thing, alot of people are too lazy to get their own equipment and just play the game, so they have to steal and scam

IceD'Bear

IceD'Bear

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Awoken Myth [MYTH]

Mo/

If you released the mouse button after he canceled the trade, then you just dropped the weapon on the ground.
I doubt that there is a bug here.

Perishiko ReLLiK

Perishiko ReLLiK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Divine Guardians of the Soul (Soul)

Mo/E

Well, he would have to cancel like, half a second before you clicked to put your item in there... i gotta give him props to his scam, because being psychic enough to know when you're going to click... that takes skills...

But anyhow, a scam is a scam, not a bug... if it were a bug, anet could fix it, since it's a scam, anet will fix the person. Banning the character... Go anet!

PHANTASM

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

They can fix it so you cant drop weapons like it is when in town.

You cant drop weapons in town.

Why have it different out on battlefields?

If you want to get rid of something you can use your inventory trash can.

This bug could easly be fixed have it same as in towns and use trash can if

want to get rid of something.

This bug is easy to do I tested it (with wife and her character) as soon as

you click your weapon and drag it anywhere outside of inventory box it falls

to ground, when you let go of it on purpose or not.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHANTASM
You cant drop weapons in town.

Why have it different out on battlefields?
Because you may want to trade loot with your teammates.

Danny_Rowe

Danny_Rowe

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Alot

W/Mo

doesnt it say, 'abc' item belongs to '123' character

Starsky-sama

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHANTASM
This guy Aztec Ax asked if he could see my weapon, so I started trade

right when I was going to submit he canceled the trade.

My weapon falls to the ground he picks up my weapon and leaves the group.

I dont understand why a person would do this?

I had my weapon customized so its no use to him.

Is there anyway to fix this bug he will do this to someone else.

People are proud of there weapons and will show them to people.

This bug exposes people's rare items.

I'm just disgusted by this.

Aztec Ax if you read this I hope you can look your self in the mirror knowing

your a scam.

BTW I submited this to support team at guild wars

wow d2 dejavous all over again. scary...hope they put a fix on even if cancelled they auto back where items came from.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

There's no bug. He pulled the item out of his directory, and happened to drop it just as the other guy cancelled, so it landed on the ground. The other guy then saw his chance, snatched it up, and ran.
One person with bad luck, and another with bad morals and quicker reflexes, nothing more.

dwarf stomper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_Rowe
doesnt it say, 'abc' item belongs to '123' character
only when loot is dropped from monsters for the first time, any time a player drops something its fair game

its not a bug its a scam, this kind of nonsense is why i stopped playing diablo2

midnyte13

midnyte13

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

W/E

Phantasm, that totally sux and I am glad you submitted the person.

why would this person do this....cuz he's a scum bag. plain and simple. even if you "just dropped your weapon on accident he still picked it up and took off. scumbag p.o.s. people who would do this in gamers environment would do it you in real life on the street my advice to you is to not anyone you do not know to check out your stuff. some may say that you should have been a lil more savvy, maybe may not...why would anyone have to worry about this stuff...because we play against human players and we all know the horrors humans are capabale of.....too bad phan....keep your eyes peeled and find some good mates to watch your back....just like in real life.

peace

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Umm.. For one, if he dropped it, it'd have to be outside town. Two, it gives you a warning if you want to drop the item, ANY item if you drag it out. And three, I've showed someone my equipped weapon before and it was cancelled. I don't have it anymore, because that's because I got a better one and sold the old one.

Starsky-sama

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Starsky-sama
wow d2 dejavous all over again. scary...hope they put a fix on even if cancelled they auto back where items came from.
added: even if it isnt a bug. i would think everyone would like GW to add a fix to avoid anyone trying/exploiting this.eh?

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Umm.. For one, if he dropped it, it'd have to be outside town. Two, it gives you a warning if you want to drop the item, ANY item if you drag it out Edit: O_o strange, I just tried it and dropped my equipped weapon... And three, I've showed someone my equipped weapon before and it was cancelled. I don't have it anymore, because that's because I got a better one and sold the old one.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Starsky-sama
added: even if it isnt a bug. i would think everyone would like GW to add a fix to avoid anyone trying/exploiting this.eh?
There's no way anyone can do this on purpose and exploit it, because they can't know what split second you let go of left mouse button to drop the item in the sell window. It was just chance.

PHANTASM

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
There's no way anyone can do this on purpose and exploit it, because they can't know what split second you let go of left mouse button to drop the item in the sell window. It was just chance.

You can expliot this as soon as you drag your weapon from inventory to

ground or trade box its exposed. (while outside of town)

I tested it with wife very easy to drop.

If your asking yourself why I did this I'll explain.

Just got cool sword someone wants to see it so I show new cool item to

them, you ask why dont i do this in town? Well you cant see weapon or

helmet in town just walking around.

Why cant they add a conformation if your going to drop weapon on ground?

I dont want to argue with anyone I just dont want this to happen to someone

else.

Hunter Freeman

Hunter Freeman

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Middle of Nowhere

[ZOMG]

Phantasm, I am very sorry this happened to you, I know it must be frustrating. I ran into Aztec Axe once myself, and he wanted to see my FDS, I said that I didn't have the time, and now after reading this, I know why he wanted to do it, I'm sorry it happened to you, but I thank you for telling the community about it so someone people can know better next time he tries his act

Roken

Roken

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Jacksonville, Florida (US)

Corpse Ecstacy[Crps]

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHANTASM
They can fix it so you cant drop weapons like it is when in town.

You cant drop weapons in town.

Why have it different out on battlefields?

If you want to get rid of something you can use your inventory trash can.

This bug could easly be fixed have it same as in towns and use trash can if

want to get rid of something.

This bug is easy to do I tested it (with wife and her character) as soon as

you click your weapon and drag it anywhere outside of inventory box it falls

to ground, when you let go of it on purpose or not.
No, an easy fix would be after the trade is canceled to automaticly return the items picked up witht he mouse back to the inventory. You can drop items incase you're out of room in your inventory, but dont want to delete items to get a quest item. The ground is the biggest shelf in the world.

Nosajio

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Perishiko ReLLiK
i gotta give him props to his scam, because being psychic enough to know when you're going to click... that takes skills...
I can't, in any way, give any type of positive feedback to people who prey on weak targets (no offense, but if you're not a big corporation, you're weak in my eyes -- which includes myself). Its like telling a guy who beat the hell out of an old lady, that he's damn cool for doing it.

I certainly agree with a banning

Helios

Helios

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Phantasm, this is unfortune that people do these kinds of things. But for everyone reading this, let it serve as a warning. Don't trade outside of a town or outpost. I know it's natural to want to show off a cool new weapon, but don't let that get the best of you. Better to impress with you playing than your gear.

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

The simplist solution would be to do exactly what they did with salvage kits..

"you cannot salvage items on your weapons bar"


...


"you cannot drop items on your weapons bar"

Enigmatics

Enigmatics

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tenafly, NJ

Defenders of Rillanon

W/Mo

Wow suprisingly this is a rather well known scam in other RPGS, like d2 and pristontale. As for not being able to trade weapons in item bars, people would still take the weapons off so they could show them to others in a trade screen.

Jelloblimp

Jelloblimp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

[KCHS]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enigmatics
Wow suprisingly this is a rather well known scam in other RPGS, like d2 and pristontale.
Bumping an almost 1 month old thread (about a issue no longer present) leads to bad karma.

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

Well, this was recently patched to have a confirmation dialog on dropping an item shortly after trading, according to http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html

snedger

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hello
The trees are at it as well!
Spent 2 hours on my own trying to finish Villainy of Galrath quest after everyone had quit, because I had been allocated a gold brute sword - BUT it was stuck inside a tree (along with some other loot)!! Had to quit in the end as I was literrally falling asleep at the mouse.
Normally I'm pretty easy going, and not classification of species prejudised, but perhaps AN should consider coppicing? Or maybe liberal application of weed killer or napalm. And as a last resort maybe perma-banning the trees concerned - I would prefer to see deciduous trees eliminated from English Districts and just allow neat rows of evergreens, but no way leylandii !!
The ironic thing is that if I'd had hold of the gold sword then I might have been able to chop the tree down myself.
Cheers
snedger

Ashleigh McMahon

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

It still is a scam.

Please do not show peoples names.

Regards, Ashleigh.