Saw a monk wielding a Hammer today.

buggsy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Rezzed him 3 times with vengeance on 1 mission. HOOAH! I love that spell. In a sick sort of way.

TopGun

TopGun

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

A Hammer-wielding Monk sounds kinda cool, to tell ya the truth.

DarrenJasper

DarrenJasper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

My guildmate runs a Mo/W hammer build with knockdown and Balth's Aura. It's pretty godly, I've seen it.

Playful Kitty

Playful Kitty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Its fun. But im trying out Mo/ ooo im not gonna say!

Awol Duteq

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

So, the guy dies...and you chose to grief him using a spell...congrats. This suppossed to make you smarter than him? I think just the opposite...

Rahne Sinclaire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Here.

The Dopplegangers [DoP]

W/Mo

A hammer-wielding monk could work, I suppose... I'd personally just be a war/mo with a hammer, but whatever floats your boat.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

I've got a W/Mo, not to be yet another one of the mold but because I like to mindlessly slaughter things without worry of dying due to weaker armor.

I can't do that with my E/Mo, and my Mo/Me gets really beaten up by stuff just due to the whole lack of skills and armor for the time being.

DarrenJasper

DarrenJasper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Awol Duteq
So, the guy dies...and you chose to grief him using a spell...congrats. This suppossed to make you smarter than him? I think just the opposite...
I look forward to the next time I use Vengeance in a mission because of the full health/energy boost and lower casting time, and get called "griefer" for it.

Rahne Sinclaire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Here.

The Dopplegangers [DoP]

W/Mo

When did rezzing a person become a grief? At least with Vengeance, you don't get a death penalty when you do, inevitably, die. IIRC, that is.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

I have yet to use Vengeance, mainly because it only rezzes someone for thirty seconds then they die again. It's useful I suppose, and I may have to use it at some point.

I'm waiting for that one skill that lets you raise all nearby party members, that would be very handy when I'm about to get my arse handed to me in a mission, that would be VERY handy to keep us from failing a mission sometimes...

DarrenJasper

DarrenJasper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adaria
I'm waiting for that one skill that lets you raise all nearby party members, that would be very handy when I'm about to get my arse handed to me in a mission, that would be VERY handy to keep us from failing a mission sometimes...
Light of Dwayna. It sounds useful, the only thing is that if my whole party is dead and I've still got the 25 energy this spell costs, something is wrong...

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

Was the Monks name "Priest"? Level 20?

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenJasper
Light of Dwayna. It sounds useful, the only thing is that if my whole party is dead and I've still got the 25 energy this spell costs, something is wrong...
So true, so true... If you're the only one standing, you know to run... Because whatever got your friends is probably big, mean and eats Warriors for breakfast. >^o^<

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adaria
So true, so true... If you're the only one standing, you know to run... Because whatever got your friends is probably big, mean and eats Warriors for breakfast. >^o^<
Ghostly Hero is a BEAST.

Awol Duteq

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahne Sinclaire
When did rezzing a person become a grief? At least with Vengeance, you don't get a death penalty when you do, inevitably, die. IIRC, that is.

Maybe you should reread the main post and the context that was implied regarding his use of Vengence. It can and has been used as a griefer tool, veng, let die, venge, let die, venge let die over and over. I'm sure by the third time the guy woulda left.

DarrenJasper

DarrenJasper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Maybe he just used it in 3 different battles... Nowhere in his post does he imply he did it to grief.

Sheesh. Everyone needs a villain.

Sarus

Sarus

Ministry of Technology

Join Date: Feb 2005

Washington D.C.

Idiot Savants

Mo/

Quote:
I have yet to use Vengeance, mainly because it only rezzes someone for thirty seconds then they die again. It's useful I suppose, and I may have to use it at some point.
Use Vengeance then cast Mark of Protection on them. When they "die" from the vengeance running out the Mark of Protection kicks in and keeps them alive. This was a pretty popular combo until people started packing enchantment removal. Still, you could probably use it pretty effectively against PUGs and in the arenas. Wouldn't work well against a good team though. They'll notice right away that the person has an enchantment on them when they come back at full life and immediately call for a rend.

DarrenJasper

DarrenJasper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarus
Use Vengeance then cast Mark of Protection on them. When they "die" from the vengeance running out the Mark of Protection kicks in and keeps them alive. This was a pretty popular combo until people started packing enchantment removal.
Wow, is that true? Sounds a little exploit-y, but who cares, I'm giving it a shot.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

Thanks for the heads up Sarus, I'd use it for PvE, not PvP, I haven't done PvP seriously yet, since our guild doesn't have enough members at level 20 to do serious PvP or GvG yet. So thanks for the tip that sounds great.

duverga

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

If you're going to try, use Divine Intervention. It also prevents deaths from Vengeance and it's not elite.

Brett Kuntz

Brett Kuntz

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Awol Duteq
So, the guy dies...and you chose to grief him using a spell...congrats. This suppossed to make you smarter than him? I think just the opposite...
It's posts like this that make me often wonder if people even know what they're doing when they do it.

Haung Yu

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

In my opinion, Light of Dwayna is a terrible spell to be used in the middle of an encounter. I've used it, and apparently, it is meant to be used after all the monsters are dead. The radius is the same length as your aggro radius, and the dead members are resurrected with the same health as the Ressurect spell... probably even without energy.

buggsy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

I have 2 ressurection spells. I only use Vengeance when most other party members are at least 75% health and the battle is still raging, and we need more meat shields.

It only takes 4 seconds to cast. 30 seconds is a long time in the middle of a battle, more then enough to finish the battle. Ressurecting with other spells is tricky because they only get like 50 health afterwards, and can easilly die again with a higher death penalty 1 second after resurecting thereby giving the person an additional 15% death penalty.

Using the spell that requires me to touch a body after death puts my monk at risk of dying a quick death too.

Using the spell that drains all my mana (rebirth), puts the rest of the party at risk.

You know when an NPC rezzes you, and you die a half a second later? Now you got a 30% death penalty.

xakia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

not mexico

laaaaa

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenJasper
Light of Dwayna. It sounds useful, the only thing is that if my whole party is dead and I've still got the 25 energy this spell costs, something is wrong...
25 energy, long casting time, and a VERY short range. You have to be freaking standing on a stack of bodies to use it. Its retarded and a total waste of my money. Skill needs reworked in a major way. Same with Divine Healing...it just don't reach far enough. The range is so weak that you'd be better off with a Heal Area.

so_cal_forever

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Club Overclocker

Mo/W

I'm a monk with a fiery dragon sword. I also use the War Pick sometimes. Thats my point: I dont use healing spells, I combine powerful attacks, smite spells, and a couple protection spells to hand enemys their arses.

Pisses off a group who thinks they got a healer really easy.

buggsy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

If your going to be a monk, be a monk.

If your going to be a warrior, be a warrior.

Ordas

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by buggsy
If your going to be a monk, be a monk.

If your going to be a warrior, be a warrior.

the glory of GW is that you can be many combinations of things and still be successful. limiting primary monks to just healing is unfair to the monks.

Inacurate

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Merrimack, NH

Looking for serious PvP, yet wanting to try things kinda Guild!

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ordas
the glory of GW is that you can be many combinations of things and still be successful. limiting primary monks to just healing is unfair to the monks.
Hear Hear!

I switch between Smiting, Protection, Healing and "Undead's run when they see me" skill sets. :P

I was just out solo'ing Undead outside the Bergun Hot Springs, and just before that I was all Heal Spells inside the Temple, last night another Monk friend of mine and I was grouping, he was all Heal and I was all Protection.

As a Monk, I LOVE being able to go from such opposite extremes( vs Undead, anyways :P ) and that is the fun for me, knowing what skills to bring into what area, or in the case of PvP finding the right variation of skills and attributes to use to effectively heal and help win.

And just for the record, I used a hammer ALL the way through Pre-Sear. Sadly, it was the best weapon I ever found, and I hated giving it up...

Inac

Yoda66

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

@Buggsy
pretty noobish reply there.

a monk is a monk, yep that's true
but tell me since when is the monk a synonym for healer?

i know my name sure aint Alesia.

Gear853

Gear853

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Great White North

The Fishers Of Men

N/Me

I dunno why, but I thought I read " Saw a monkey wielding a Hammer today"

I love being a monk so far...standing back of the line, yelling at the n00bies dying because they are n00bies...

warblek

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

The OP didn't say what the hammer-monk's secondary class was but if it's not warrior then wielding a hammer is a bit silly since he won't meet any of the reqs for it, thus doing no damage with it, and is losing all stat bonuses and damage from staves, wands and caster offhands.

If he/she was warrior secondary then this thread isn't even worthy of posting because, um, so what?

uther_necro

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

E/N

i am a elem/necro and i sometimes weild a hammer.

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by buggsy
If your going to be a monk, be a monk.

If your going to be a warrior, be a warrior.
And of course, since characters in GW are dual-classed, you can follow both of these pieces of advice at the same time.

When you've decided to both be a warrior and be a monk, the question becomes, W/Mo or Mo/W? If the answer to this question seems obvious to you, you've still got a lot to learn about this game...