I remember there being a poll on VN, asking what people's primary would most likely be for their main.
%40ish replied ranger
then it went
Warrior
Necro
Elementalist
Monk
Mesmer
So why are they so popular?
Expertise is the best primary atm, but not alot of people know that, and of those who do I don't think would influence the numbers too much.
Personally I thought Warriors would've been the most popular, followed by Elementalists.
Why Are Primary Rangers So Popular?
Allmightybob
Weezer_Blue
Cause rangers are obviously the coolest. They get vicious animals to attack people, they fire bows and hardly ever miss, they can dodge all sorts of attacks, they can poison and burn their enemies, they can make hell for casters, they can cause mass damage... What the hell can't they do? And all that while having armour as good as a warrior's.
OrangeArrow
personally I think the female ranger has the best player model in the game but i guess it might be archers traditionaly have the best range attack without the weakness of spellcasters usually weak armor
but i would say its the pet
but i would say its the pet
Aladdar
at one point they were the most powerful profession but that has since been changed. I actually started playing a ranger when I was ridiculed for doing so as they were so underpowered it was ridiculous. I've just always really enjoyed the concept of having a pet and attacking from the shadows.
When I started investigating the class further I just really liked the way they melded with a necro really nice for doing damage and disruption.
When I started investigating the class further I just really liked the way they melded with a necro really nice for doing damage and disruption.
Ren Falconhand
because they ROCK LOL! 
I think the real reason is lot of people love Stealth games i.e. Thief , Splinter Cell . ect rangers can use Stealth. Also they can have cool pets. That means if you can't find somebady to play with you are still covered. Your pets lvl too so they can tank for you. Plus and this is just my Opinion but Rangers are one of the best for PvE and who doesn't Love PvE.
Plus they have a wicked cool dance
Ren
I think the real reason is lot of people love Stealth games i.e. Thief , Splinter Cell . ect rangers can use Stealth. Also they can have cool pets. That means if you can't find somebady to play with you are still covered. Your pets lvl too so they can tank for you. Plus and this is just my Opinion but Rangers are one of the best for PvE and who doesn't Love PvE.
Plus they have a wicked cool dance
Ren
Weezer_Blue
One of the funniest things about rangers is how they are ignored and underestimated. You can be sitting on the side lines of a battle slaughtering their entire team and they won't make the slightest attempt to subdue you. Of course, it can be a pain in the ass while looking for a decent Tombs team.
Kha
I love nature themed classes and being able to use a bow. It's good to attack decently from a distance and not have to rely on spells. They're a very well-rounded profession and can have a variety of styles to play with their skills. I just think they're one of the more diversified professions in the game right now which appeals to a lot of people who get worried that their second profession won't compliment their primary.
Aladdar
I don't think they're ignored, I think they're no more ignored than warriors. It just comes down to being more beneficial to take out healers, eles, mesmers, etc... than it is to take on the rangers first.
Halfy
HAR HAR
That would be their mistake now wouldn't it?
Rangers are the most versatile out of all the classes, and yes the higher armor is a big help. Its a shame stealth never came to be, perhaps it will be used in some future day with another class. Oh well, expertise is wonderful.
That would be their mistake now wouldn't it?
Rangers are the most versatile out of all the classes, and yes the higher armor is a big help. Its a shame stealth never came to be, perhaps it will be used in some future day with another class. Oh well, expertise is wonderful.
William of Orange
I'm a big fan of sniping people, so just launching bolts in with my bow and taking people down is always a plus for me. That, and they look the coolest too; not stocky like the Warrior, but they don't look like pansies either.
Myself, I'll most likely be running a Ranger/Elementalist build for my main character once the game is released, using Traps of some sort (Mud Trap{E} comes to mind) in conjunction with AoE Elementalist spells to deal some massive damage, all while using a Energy gaining spell (i.e. Air/Earth/Fire/Water Attunement) and hitting everybody I can with Apply Poison. Not battle tested yet, and not even sure if it's possible to do (not sure what the limitations are on an Elementalist secondary), but it'd fit well with my playing style.
Myself, I'll most likely be running a Ranger/Elementalist build for my main character once the game is released, using Traps of some sort (Mud Trap{E} comes to mind) in conjunction with AoE Elementalist spells to deal some massive damage, all while using a Energy gaining spell (i.e. Air/Earth/Fire/Water Attunement) and hitting everybody I can with Apply Poison. Not battle tested yet, and not even sure if it's possible to do (not sure what the limitations are on an Elementalist secondary), but it'd fit well with my playing style.
Mumblyfish
Well... bugger me, why wouldn't they be so popular?
Best Primary Attribute. Bar none. 5 more energy than Warrior and 1 more pip a second. Toss in Expertise and a Ranger can give the casters a run for their money, energy-wise. Ranger arguably sport the best armour in the game. Falls just behind Warrior armour for physical damage, gets ahead for elemental/fire damage. And what's this? Here come some rock solid stances and decent healing... Rangers can be bloody tough to take down. What've Warriors got? Healing Signet? Tactics? Oh, tits! We surrender! And while this isn't helpful for most builds, they have some meaty preperations that can be used on both bows and blades. Frankly, I don't think any other class comes close for utility. My only gripe is that female Rangers have always looked a tad... odd, ingame. Imagine twigs, but with stupid hair.
Oh, and Rangers don't have armour befitting a thief. Yet Mesmers do (just missing the cloak/scarf), and I feel that makes Ranger primary lose about fifteen points on my arbitrary "Cool Beans" scale.
Best Primary Attribute. Bar none. 5 more energy than Warrior and 1 more pip a second. Toss in Expertise and a Ranger can give the casters a run for their money, energy-wise. Ranger arguably sport the best armour in the game. Falls just behind Warrior armour for physical damage, gets ahead for elemental/fire damage. And what's this? Here come some rock solid stances and decent healing... Rangers can be bloody tough to take down. What've Warriors got? Healing Signet? Tactics? Oh, tits! We surrender! And while this isn't helpful for most builds, they have some meaty preperations that can be used on both bows and blades. Frankly, I don't think any other class comes close for utility. My only gripe is that female Rangers have always looked a tad... odd, ingame. Imagine twigs, but with stupid hair.
Oh, and Rangers don't have armour befitting a thief. Yet Mesmers do (just missing the cloak/scarf), and I feel that makes Ranger primary lose about fifteen points on my arbitrary "Cool Beans" scale.
Kha
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As for Expertise being the best primary... I think that's just because the others suck so much. Expertise is heavily needed to be a good ranger. Other primaries aren't needed so much to be good at that profession. Just my opinion from playing all the professions and having a ranger primary.
worthless
well since all the builds seem fairly balance, i just picked the one that i thought looked the coolest
Dovi the Monk
is this just a ranger biased thread or are people forgetting about energy storage.
i mean ya expertise is nice but at the lower lvls its not as good. stick like 4 into e storage and uve got like 15 extra energy. i mean expertise cant get u solid energy and only effects soem things, so its onoly effective in situations, where e storage cant be efficient anywhere.
imsurprised elementalist was so far down on the list...
i mean ya expertise is nice but at the lower lvls its not as good. stick like 4 into e storage and uve got like 15 extra energy. i mean expertise cant get u solid energy and only effects soem things, so its onoly effective in situations, where e storage cant be efficient anywhere.
imsurprised elementalist was so far down on the list...
davisz
im looking to be a ranger because i come from WoW, where i was a Hunter. And eventhough they got the least amount of attention, and was probably the worst class in the game, i still thought it was pretty fun, so imma try it out again.
MoldyRiceFrenzy
dunno i chose ranger because of the evil animal killers and there sniper attacks Also many things blend well with them
Mumblyfish
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is this just a ranger biased thread or are people forgetting about energy storage.
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worthless
hey if yall are gunna argue try to keep it on topic and leave out the personal attacks
DarkWasp
Maybe its the ranger dance?
Im gonna be a primary ranger since im always a warrior in every game i wanted to try something new.
Im gonna be a primary ranger since im always a warrior in every game i wanted to try something new.
Soiled Egg Roll
I think books/movies like Lord of the Rings play a role in why rangers are so popular. Elves seem to be the most popular characters in fantasy titles, and most of them are archers.
walder
Maybe its because Expertise is the strongest primary in the game, but I think it will get a small nerf by retail.
Lea Black
I chose a Ranger because I've always liked that class, in Diablo, Sacred and other games I've always played an archer of some kind. I also like fighting outside of the melee where I can see what needs to be done.
But all that being said, I also think the Rangers are the best looking characters in the game! Those male rangers are hot!
But all that being said, I also think the Rangers are the best looking characters in the game! Those male rangers are hot!
Beelzebubba
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I chose a Ranger because I've always liked that class, in Diablo, Sacred and other games I've always played an archer of some kind. I also like fighting outside of the melee where I can see what needs to be done.
But all that being said, I also think the Rangers are the best looking characters in the game! Those male rangers are hot! |
I don't know anything about what Expertise does, I never cared much for details. Heheh. If it helps me with my spellcasting, that's all the better. Next month, I'll put some points into that, since I've had some problems with not having enough energy to cast the spells I want. I've just been putting my points into the things that sounded like they were more directly related to Rangers, like Beast Mastery, and Bow related stuff. I do think Rangers should get movement bonuses from being more in tune with the land, but that's just me being nostalgic. Heheh.
DarkWasp
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Those male rangers are hot!
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Before i started studying GW I saw this pic
http://www.guildwars.com/images/JPG/...een032-lrg.jpg
And then thats when i said to myself, im gonna give it a shot!
So i came to this site and studied the professions and the ranger seemed most fitting for me.
Not to mention that video with the ranger dancing.
So i know for sure im going to be a primary ranger, im unsure about my second proffesion.
Allah_Mode
dance moves
Ren Falconhand
That's why I am a ranger 
Ren
Ren
Tur713
Yeah,, I must admit. It's just their all around cool factor. The dance, the dress, the sniping...yeah..
...I play an elementalist...I have a crappy dance...I dance like the male elementalist in real life sometimes...
...I play an elementalist...I have a crappy dance...I dance like the male elementalist in real life sometimes...
Davion
simply put.... versatility. Jack of all trades says it all..there is always some way for them to manage something akin to a different character. (not always well, but its there)
The other interesting thing about rangers is, unless an opposing ranger is in your screen, you may not realize who is beating on you until you are in trouble( melee or someone a lil too busy casting..hehe)
Shooting into a melee engagement is rather interesting. A lot of times people will just not realize some of those big chuynks coming out aren't clubbings.
(yeah I know..they catch on fast..but depends who you are..and how much you play)
The other interesting thing about rangers is, unless an opposing ranger is in your screen, you may not realize who is beating on you until you are in trouble( melee or someone a lil too busy casting..hehe)
Shooting into a melee engagement is rather interesting. A lot of times people will just not realize some of those big chuynks coming out aren't clubbings.
(yeah I know..they catch on fast..but depends who you are..and how much you play)
Frezak_bloodbath
The ranger does have some pretty heavy versatility, but I would have thought most people would have gone for a warrior or elementalist: a good reliable well-used class. But then I, a Elementalist-warrior was rather surprisedat these hordes of archrs running about...
Mumblyfish
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Energy Storage is a fantastic skill, for the very beginning of a fight. Once your Energy levels hit zero, through natural draining of Energy or denial by Mesmers, the maximum doesn't matter at all. All that matters is how long you have to wait before you can fire off your next Energy-based skill. And in my opinion, that's where Elementalists are shite. Huge energy cost for skills effectively means that once you hit zero, you're ballsed, and Energy Storage isn't helping any. At least Soul Reaping and Expertise have potential in a zero-Energy situation, and all the other primary attributes can't be rendered useless as easily as Energy Storage. Toss in the typical mages' bad armour, and I can certainly see why I rarely see Elementalists. I even run across more Necromancers than Elementalists, oy vey.
Dreamsmith
At the start of any battle, Energy Storage is the most useful attribute in the game. Half a minute into the battle, Energy Storage is the most useless attribute in the game.
ratatass
I might get some flaming for this one...
People that play rangers usually have an easy life. This is for a standard pick up team in the Tombs.
1. They are usually never target callers
2. They never lead in battle
3. They are never the dedicated ressers
4. The never have to heal others, and therefore no responsibilty for the groups well beeing.
5. They enjoy an easy life untill the healers are dead - then they tend to get some heat.
6. They never get any heat for anything they do.
I am so tired of leading as a Warrior, calling targets and then ressing when players die. Players usually never follow up on your targets as well. It seems that follow your leader doesnt apply much and you get frustrated when you are the only one standing. You wonder time and time again if you should have chosen another strategy.
As a monk in PvP I work my butt of to keep players alive, and most of the time I end up ressing at times too. Players spread out and make my life living hell. The whole team is depending on you to keep the healing going. Yet, when you are attacked no help is available, but you don't want to jepoardize your healing ability, by bringing stances and defensive power.
Playing Warrior or Monk in Pick up groups in the Tombs is frustrating. So maybe I should give myself a break and start a Ranger or join a decent guild. I believe the expectations are going to be a lot less and all I have to do in those group is to stay somewhere in the middle and fire my arrows and set my traps.
Sounds like a great idea.
People that play rangers usually have an easy life. This is for a standard pick up team in the Tombs.
1. They are usually never target callers
2. They never lead in battle
3. They are never the dedicated ressers
4. The never have to heal others, and therefore no responsibilty for the groups well beeing.
5. They enjoy an easy life untill the healers are dead - then they tend to get some heat.
6. They never get any heat for anything they do.
I am so tired of leading as a Warrior, calling targets and then ressing when players die. Players usually never follow up on your targets as well. It seems that follow your leader doesnt apply much and you get frustrated when you are the only one standing. You wonder time and time again if you should have chosen another strategy.
As a monk in PvP I work my butt of to keep players alive, and most of the time I end up ressing at times too. Players spread out and make my life living hell. The whole team is depending on you to keep the healing going. Yet, when you are attacked no help is available, but you don't want to jepoardize your healing ability, by bringing stances and defensive power.
Playing Warrior or Monk in Pick up groups in the Tombs is frustrating. So maybe I should give myself a break and start a Ranger or join a decent guild. I believe the expectations are going to be a lot less and all I have to do in those group is to stay somewhere in the middle and fire my arrows and set my traps.
Sounds like a great idea.
Kha
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In response to ratatass, how much a player puts into a pickup group depends on their build and their enthusiasm, not their primary class. The four primary classes I play the most are Ranger, Warrior, Monk and Elementalist, and out of the four I can honestly say Monk is the only one that requires any more work than the rest. Let's face it, keeping people alive is harder than causing damage.
As for you being tired of ressing when players die, that must be because you are a /Mo, not a Wa/. Anyone with a secondary of a monk and the res spell has to go through that. And the reason the warrior calls is it is a lot easier for ranged attackers to switch targets than a warrior. A warrior has to physically go to that person. One of the best plans is to switch constantly, and you're not going to want a warrior running around wastefully while a ranger or elementalist call the targets. With the warrior targeting, he/she will find the best target nearby that will be quick to reach, providing less down time of running. (my opinion from playing a warrior)
I agree one of the biggest problems is players don't follow the targets. Even other warriors don't follow targets and just go off on their own. It gets annoying.
If you really think Rangers are "lazy" or "slow", then that's a reflection on the player and not the profession. Saying they "just fire arrows" is like saying warriors "just slash or smash things". If this was true, we wouldn't have any need for skills. I don't think any profession is really "more or less hard working" than the next, because it's our builds and skills that determine how much we are putting into the game.
And no this is not a flame. Just a post to show my view that we are what make a profession "suck" or "great".
Vermilion Okeanos
Well... as battle goes...
Monk = first to go
then the other casters... as for easier target to be taken down (or so they thought)
then the closest target... the warrior that is whacking you @_@
then who is left? oh that ranger at the back...
Something I had been wanting to test is... If I wear an elementalist armor and use a bow from the farthest corner... will people come all the way to get me just because I am an E or something...? Not many chance to do this yet thou... As I am looking for a good bow =P
Monk = first to go
then the other casters... as for easier target to be taken down (or so they thought)
then the closest target... the warrior that is whacking you @_@
then who is left? oh that ranger at the back...
Something I had been wanting to test is... If I wear an elementalist armor and use a bow from the farthest corner... will people come all the way to get me just because I am an E or something...? Not many chance to do this yet thou... As I am looking for a good bow =P
Scizor
Pfft, We all know its because rangers can breakdance! Don't kid yourself with all this stat stuff.
Breakdancing is the wave of the past and since fads are going in circles Rangers are obviously trend setting!
In conclusion Its all about shaing that groove thang.
Breakdancing is the wave of the past and since fads are going in circles Rangers are obviously trend setting!
In conclusion Its all about shaing that groove thang.
Ren Falconhand
Five or more rangers danceing is something you just have to see. I call it the spin cycle
Ren
Ren
Scizor
I peronsally enjoy the necros thrilla dance....Thats only cause im a fan of that music video xD. And im sure the warriors dance is some kind of generic dance, As, its a generic brand of charecter.
neoflame
My first PvE character is going to be a R/N or R/Me. Why? Expertise owns/bows own/the versatility owns/I intend to make some use out of that Ithas Bow.
DarkWasp
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I intend to make some use out of that Ithas Bow.
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Is that bow like a medium ranged weapon? Or is it like the uber elite hacker weapon?
WNxTyphoon
I'm gonna say:
Oath Shot.
Oath Shot.