Oh yes, i can see it now
Scizor
Me being master of all that is undead as well as a pet. Allowing my pet to take down my enemies and aimating some minoins an dhorors out of the corpses and should any of tse get n trouble death nova is there to whipe the field clean of hostiles. Where as ill stand safely in the back takeing out monsters with my bow. Yes. What do you guys think?
lllCo2lll
lol sounds nice, but be careful not to make your attributes to thin.
Scizor
what you mean?
spiritofcat
You only get 200 attribute points in total, so it can be unwise to spread them over all your different attributes as that will leave them all at mediocre levels.
Read this article for extensive detail on what I'm talking about.
Read this article for extensive detail on what I'm talking about.
Greentongue
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Allowing my pet to take down my enemies and aimating some minoins an dhorors out of the corpses ...
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Scizor
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Originally Posted by Greentongue
Pets have a hard time taking down an opponent in PvP so no minions would be available. The idea should work very well in PvE though.
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Ren Falconhand
There are skills that can make your pet stronger, do more damage, or have gerater Penetration of armor but each skill you get for your pet is one less you could use for yourself. I only run with two. Charm animal to get the pet. and Confort animal to heal it. Of course I mainly play PvE and things are way different in PvP.
Ren
Ren
Scizor
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There are skills that can make your pet stronger, do more damage, or have gerater Penetration of armor but each skill you get for your pet is one less you could use for yourself. I only run with two. Charm animal to get the pet. and Confort animal to heal it. Of course I mainly play PvE and things are way different in PvP.
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Aladdar
these pets are commonly known as zoo keepers but I don't think they work that well. First you have to get dead bodies to raise your minions from, and minions and pets are both notoriously weak, although if you can get 10 or more minions up that's something to see.
You'd probably want to pump your attributes into death magic, expertise, and marksmanship. I still don't see the need to put points into beast mastery but I could be wrong. Just let the pet level up and be another attack and then use your bow with some strong attack skills as well. You'd probably want to bring marksman's wager because making minions can take quite a bit of energy.
You'd probably want to pump your attributes into death magic, expertise, and marksmanship. I still don't see the need to put points into beast mastery but I could be wrong. Just let the pet level up and be another attack and then use your bow with some strong attack skills as well. You'd probably want to bring marksman's wager because making minions can take quite a bit of energy.
Scizor
Hmm...Ok all in all what kind of combanation do you think i should do as far as professions go? Would I want to be a minion raising Archer, Or A sword swinging elementalist? I still haven't participated in a BWE so I really dont know the strengths and weaknesses of the people. 
Aladdar
they're all workable. I can't tell you what you should be without knowing what type of character you want to play.
Scizor
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they're all workable. I can't tell you what you should be without knowing what type of character you want to play.
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Ren Falconhand
I play as a necro from time to time too. How many undead minions can you have at one time. Assumeing you can find the dead bodies. 
Ren
Ren
Aladdar
I've seen at least 20, as long as you can keep them healed you can keep raising them.
Dave III
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Hmm...Ok all in all what kind of combanation do you think i should do as far as professions go? Would I want to be a minion raising Archer, Or A sword swinging elementalist? I still haven't participated in a BWE so I really dont know the strengths and weaknesses of the people.
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I am a Monk...
But I'm a Necromancer...
I worship life...
But I defile it...
I Heal the Sick...
But I tourture the souls of the dead...
I give people another chance in life...
But I take away thier chance in the Hereafter....
I defend the weak and innocent...
But I prey on the lost and mourned....
I...
But....
*ACK* Illogical! Illogical! Norman, Coordinate!
^_^
Dave III
Scizor
O_O never do that again, Or I'll probably cry.
Ren Falconhand
How abour a Ranger/Elementalist
I love nature...
But I must burn everything down...
Only you can pervent forest fires...
Only I can start them...
Wa Ha ha ha
Not as good as Dave,
But the best I could think of.
Ren
I love nature...
But I must burn everything down...
Only you can pervent forest fires...
Only I can start them...
Wa Ha ha ha
Not as good as Dave,
But the best I could think of.
Ren
Scizor
I prefer the string of logical thinking which came about from illogical means through the human psyche which is truly flawed do to its evident want for human contradiction yet acceptance.
AHahabwhaha
AHahabwhaha
Dave III
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O_O never do that again, Or I'll probably cry.
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I could go on and on... Monk/Warrior (Protecting life, destroying life), Elementalist/Mesmer (I deal in the true nature of the world/I deal in the illusions of the world), Warrior/Ranger (Kill da bunnies/Befriend the bunnies)... Give me time, there's a gold mine of material here. ^_^
Kaiwyn
(sigh)
I went to: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...tion-id270.php
How I wish they would write things out so people who are not hard core gamers could understand and learn.
I went to: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...tion-id270.php
How I wish they would write things out so people who are not hard core gamers could understand and learn.
Dreamsmith
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(sigh)
I went to: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...tion-id270.php How I wish they would write things out so people who are not hard core gamers could understand and learn. |
Aladdar
it looks complicated but it's really not. All he's doing is giving you all the different attribute breakdowns in different distributions.
Dave III
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(sigh)
I went to: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...tion-id270.php How I wish they would write things out so people who are not hard core gamers could understand and learn. |
My best guess is that it's explaining how to distribute the points for max efficency, with a stress on that fact that dividing them evenly leaves you A: weaker in some areas that will be important on the field, and too strong in areas with little practical use and B: with points not being used, because X points won't divide into Y catagories evenly, there's always Z left over. (Unless Z=0, of course, but my algebra isn't good enough to go into that.)
Practical upshot: When you have decided what areas to focus your character's career towards, this will let you know what catagories to put points into. If you're a "healing" monk, say, rather than a "defending" monk, you want to put more points into healing than into defence. Either way, tossing some points into divine (which doesn't do anything active, but it adds a bonus to your healing, no matter what) is a good plan too.
The game gives you some opportunity to experiment, take careful advantage of it.
Did this help?
Dave III
Scizor
No, your not hardcore, unless you live hardcore!
Sorry, had to Tenacious D rules my life
Sorry, had to Tenacious D rules my life
iczer
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Well, yeah, My necro/ranger build is gonna be for PvE after i learn the game and everything, I figured that I would create something like a ranger/elemenalist or, maybe soethign to do with a warrior whose sole purpose is for PvP
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The March BWE I made 2 seperate PvE toons, one was for pickup groups and soloing and the other I used when I grouped up with my friends because our skills complimented each other and made the adventuring a bit easier and more enjoyable.
- Iczer
Kityn
Remember that you can buy back attribute points which adds to the flexibility of your character.In therory it would be possible to alter them before a pvp match,mission,or quest to better accomidate your party.
Aladdar
yes, but at the most you will only have enough attributes to change one set of attributes out completely so if you wanted to change from say earth and water to air and fire you would not be able to do that.
Also once you use attribute refunds, they are gone and you will have to quest to earn them back.
This is where I think PvP characters are different. I think you will be able to change attributes on PvP characters any time you please.
Also once you use attribute refunds, they are gone and you will have to quest to earn them back.
This is where I think PvP characters are different. I think you will be able to change attributes on PvP characters any time you please.
Kaiwyn
"Also once you use attribute refunds, they are gone and you will have to quest to earn them back. "
I thought you could remove attribute points from one skill and place them on another. No? I don't get what you mean.
I thought you could remove attribute points from one skill and place them on another. No? I don't get what you mean.
Loviatar
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"Also once you use attribute refunds, they are gone and you will have to quest to earn them back. "
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but
you can only shift 1 level/refund point
after you made a partial switch it would need replenishing refund points before more switching
NOTE
i had 25 refund points last beta not 10 points which would let me refund both air and water in that example i think
Kaiwyn
Now I am really confused!
Kityn
You get refund points for killing mobs and i think doing missions and quests.You spend the refund points to alter the point spread on your attributes.If you have enough refund points you can completely change like from air magic(10) to fire magic(10) or any other attribute from your primary and secondary.The more refund points you have the more you can change the attribute distribution.
Dreamsmith
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yes, but at the most you will only have enough attributes to change one set of attributes out completely so if you wanted to change from say earth and water to air and fire you would not be able to do that.
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Moon Requiem
Attribute distribution does not make a player hardcore...
When you actually use your calculator to get the most damage out of a caracter using those formulae, YOU ARE HARDCORE.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...nics-id674.php
When you actually use your calculator to get the most damage out of a caracter using those formulae, YOU ARE HARDCORE.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...nics-id674.php
Virtuoso
Personally I think you're hardcore if you can beat the "mathmaticians" in Guild Wars without playing the game like it's work... When it comes down to skill, not number cruntching. Then you're "HARDCORE" in my eyes.
-Virt
-Virt
Striker Shardale
Curse you math, math is for smart people. Not me, I prefer the good old fashioned "guess something random and hope it turns out for the best". Hence the reason why I play so many FPSs.