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lmao!!! 1 plat for celestial sigil!!!
DrSLUGFly
lol... think how many people who were hoarding them to sell for 50 to 100 plat... lmao... 1 plats nothing. I'm flat broke and low level but I could sell my steel and iron and have a sigil tomorrow.
while on one hand having silver, red and black silks would actually be cool, it would be funny to have a stash full of colorful granite slabs
Sarus
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| lol... think how many people who were hoarding them to sell for 50 to 100 plat... lmao... 1 plats nothing. I'm flat broke and low level but I could sell my steel and iron and have a sigil tomorrow. |
DrSLUGFly
now that you can't dye items, I wonder if dyed silks could actually be a collectors item... that would be kind of cool. If I had known that it could be done and that after today it couldn't be done I probably would have spent all my dyes on my crafting items... They would have no real function, but they would be (probably) completely unique in the entire guildwars universe...
Rhunex
where are you getting this price? last i checked, sigils were maxed out at 100 platinum pieces...if they sold for 1000 gold, it would be known everywhere, it would have been a big thing, and GW would have taken action against it, most likely destroying all sigils bought within a certain time frame.
DrSLUGFly
it's todays update. But as has been clarified for me, it's 1 plat if you sell a sigil to the trader
But given the markup... sigils certainly can't be above 15 plat now, and I'd still be surprised to learn that they're above 10 plat.
But given the markup... sigils certainly can't be above 15 plat now, and I'd still be surprised to learn that they're above 10 plat.
egads
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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly
But as has been clarified for me, it's 1 plat if you sell a sigil to the trader
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Garric
They need to lower sigils to about 20 or so k.
DrSLUGFly
I've never had or seen a sigil... so please excuse my confusion at "trader" and "merchant"... didn't occur to me they'd be different.. either way, it's nice to see that the monopoly is breaking.
either way, it's nice to see that the monopoly is breaking.
Kha
Sigils are currently selling for 70-80k right now. I've seen people trying to sell Superior Vigor for more. 
Spartan2
Checked the Sigil Trader 40 minutes ago and they were going for 96k to buy off the trader... :-(
dansamy
More and more, I'm glad I bought our Sigil from the Sigil Trader about half an hour or so after the last update for 65k. I haven't seen the trader offer it for less than that.
Prince Daniel
Yes although the value of people selling them to trader is 1000, it is still about 100,000 for a sigil, the fact that they have made its value 1000 has done nothing to reduce the value we have to pay to get one.
Creed
You seriously have to have a hard look or two for AN when you think, ou need a sigil for a guild hall to compete in guild related wars. The main focus of the game.
They discourage farming. For obvious reasons. And 'close' areas which are found to be easily farmed.
Yet from the start to the end of the story line you make, what roughly? 30plat? 50 at the top end of things? And they make a key item in advancing your guild, to the top stakes of the PvP part of the game almost 100k to buy from a vendor.
They seriously need to alter things as to avoid price gouging, and hoarding of these types of high end game items.
Seriously, i'd like to see how AN suggests a person affords one of these items, without farming. Get your guild all to pitch in? Good idea, except.. we dont have a guild storage function (which would be quite nice) to allow people to give to their guild.
They discourage farming. For obvious reasons. And 'close' areas which are found to be easily farmed.
Yet from the start to the end of the story line you make, what roughly? 30plat? 50 at the top end of things? And they make a key item in advancing your guild, to the top stakes of the PvP part of the game almost 100k to buy from a vendor.
They seriously need to alter things as to avoid price gouging, and hoarding of these types of high end game items.
Seriously, i'd like to see how AN suggests a person affords one of these items, without farming. Get your guild all to pitch in? Good idea, except.. we dont have a guild storage function (which would be quite nice) to allow people to give to their guild.
Sarus
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| You seriously have to have a hard look or two for AN when you think, ou need a sigil for a guild hall to compete in guild related wars. The main focus of the game. |
I realize those aren't great reasons to not have a guild hall but I'm just pointing it out. Quote:
| Yet from the start to the end of the story line you make, what roughly? 30plat? 50 at the top end of things? And they make a key item in advancing your guild, to the top stakes of the PvP part of the game almost 100k to buy from a vendor. |
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| They seriously need to alter things as to avoid price gouging, and hoarding of these types of high end game items. |
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| Seriously, i'd like to see how AN suggests a person affords one of these items, without farming. Get your guild all to pitch in? Good idea, except.. we dont have a guild storage function (which would be quite nice) to allow people to give to their guild. |
Creed
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They tripled the sigil drop rate a while back to try and make it easier to get a sigil. I'm not sure how well that's working out but it still seems demand outstrips supply. On that note however, even if a guild hall was free, how do you expect to be any good at guild verse guild combat if you aren't able to get to the hall of heroes? Also, GvG is overratted anyway. Tombs is much more fun at the moment I realize those aren't great reasons to not have a guild hall but I'm just pointing it out.
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Sarus
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| Quite a few people where hoarding. No on can really deny this, people where cropping up with dozens of sigils trying to sell them. Just check out guildwards unoffcial site sales part of the forum people are hoarding like ferengi from star trek. |
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sama
my hoh group just sold about 20 sigils and lowered the price form 93k to 83k! hurry up and buy them!
Creed
Lol well there you go, sama just proved people still hoarde.
Tikoko Delight
or maybe his group stayed long enough to get 20 sigils? thats only 6-7 wins
Shadowsting
Guild storage shouldn't happen. Think of all of the immature leechers who will steal everything from the guild vault and leave the guild. Unless only officers can withdraw from it...But it's not really necessary.
Loviatar
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or maybe his group stayed long enough to get 20 sigils? thats only 6-7 wins
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he only trotted out 35 for sale AFTER they increased the drop from 1 to 3
that is 35 wins being hoarded not counting ones sold
Fate
I bought all sorts of things while playing the game. I just got to Droknor's/Granite Citadel and I still got 15k with me. People just need to not be wasteful.
Armor I've had on my warrior:
Start set
Collector Armor from PRe-seering
Full suit of Fur
Armor from the Amnoon Oasis (glatiator)
And now I'm halfway through crafting my 15k set
If you aren't wasteful and buy every set of armor that give like an extra 5 armor then you'll have plenty of cash.
A guild hall is for a guild. Go give your guild leader some of your money and let him go buy a sigil. 10 people x 10k a piece = 100k = a guild hall
Armor I've had on my warrior:
Start set
Collector Armor from PRe-seering
Full suit of Fur
Armor from the Amnoon Oasis (glatiator)
And now I'm halfway through crafting my 15k set
If you aren't wasteful and buy every set of armor that give like an extra 5 armor then you'll have plenty of cash.
A guild hall is for a guild. Go give your guild leader some of your money and let him go buy a sigil. 10 people x 10k a piece = 100k = a guild hall
Devil's Dictionary
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And if you spam "Guild looking for players" in every city and outpost and grab random people, you deserve no less.
Wiccy
sorry for asking, but what is a sigil???
stumpy
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Originally Posted by Sarus
They tripled the sigil drop rate a while back to try and make it easier to get a sigil. I'm not sure how well that's working out but it still seems demand outstrips supply. On that note however, even if a guild hall was free, how do you expect to be any good at guild verse guild combat if you aren't able to get to the hall of heroes? Also, GvG is overratted anyway. Tombs is much more fun at the moment
I realize those aren't great reasons to not have a guild hall but I'm just pointing it out. Well that means 8 people x 30k = 240k. Whoala! You have enough for a sigil with some left over. Oh wait? You were trying to buy a sigil for your one man guild? A sigil is not meant to be purchased by an individual but by a group of individuals ... a guild even. They already made a stab at it. I imagine they will try again soon. And NOBODY is hoarding their sigils. That's a nasty rumor that the PvE people started. Well maybe like 1 or 2 people are hoarding their sigils but that isn't going to do much. I know everyone in my guild sells their sigils as fast as they get them. What good is a sigil to us? We just want gold to buy runes and weapons and stuff. Is it really so hard to just give the gold to your guild leader who can then buy the sigil for the guild? A guild storage would be a cool idea but a lack of it shouldn't hold anyone back from amassing the gold needed for one. |
And nobody in their right minds are hoarding ... hoarding may be a poor term for it. Any one of them would love to part with it for 70-80K ... selling it for 20 for the amount of work it takes to get 1 is almost an insult. So they do have many but are not hoarding them intentionally. Not to say some people are. Last night, some of you may have been there in the Ember Light Camp ... people were gonna completely off the trading of sigils all together, that way more people would jump into the tombs and HoH to righfully earn it (and I'm sure they wanted to scew the economy a little).
And finally the guild storage re: money ... not a good idea ... think of effect .... you know have guild storage that traders can manipulate the econmy with ... for every great cause you get a challenging effect!
stumpy
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Originally Posted by Wiccy
sorry for asking, but what is a sigil???
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You can get a Celestial Sigil from 1 of 3 places
1. The Vendor at the tombs sells them for currently about 100K
2. The Traders at Lions Arch sell them for roughly 20% cheaper than vendor at all times
3. They drop when you successfully defend the Hall of Heroes ... to get to the Hall of Heroes you must be 'Ascended' after the Crystal Desert. Their is a place called Dragon's Lair ... their is an exit in this community to the Tombs of The Primevial Kings ... here is the doorway to the Hall of Heroes ... just keep winning!
Ordas
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Originally Posted by Wiccy
sorry for asking, but what is a sigil???
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edit: beat to it! :P
Perishiko ReLLiK
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Originally Posted by Creed
You seriously have to have a hard look or two for AN when you think, ou need a sigil for a guild hall to compete in guild related wars. The main focus of the game.
They discourage farming. For obvious reasons. And 'close' areas which are found to be easily farmed. Yet from the start to the end of the story line you make, what roughly? 30plat? 50 at the top end of things? And they make a key item in advancing your guild, to the top stakes of the PvP part of the game almost 100k to buy from a vendor. They seriously need to alter things as to avoid price gouging, and hoarding of these types of high end game items. Seriously, i'd like to see how AN suggests a person affords one of these items, without farming. Get your guild all to pitch in? Good idea, except.. we dont have a guild storage function (which would be quite nice) to allow people to give to their guild. |
No, not at all... Rofl, whats wrong with all these comments like this?
The answers EASY, just get your guild together, and if your guild is worth having guild battles, it can get to the hoh and win... win the hoh and you get your wanted sigil, its practicly a test... i mean... if you suck in hoh, you'll suck more vs high end guilds... especially when trying to take out those pesky mages that guard them thar guild lords...
NOBODY ever said you HAVE to buy a sigil, how about you just win it... and then, maybe win it again... and perhaps, make a TON of money, by selling them at 40k each... it may seem unresonably low, but you'll find MANY customers who want them for that price, and well... you'll be making money in no time... rather then wasting money, how about you get the money...
Ensign
Before people were selling unidentified boots, what did we need money for? Might as well sit on something with value (a sigil) instead of something without much value (gold).
Though as long as we have to pharm rares to get our runes, we'll happily trade sigils for gold to pay rune pharmers for us.
Peace,
-CxE
Though as long as we have to pharm rares to get our runes, we'll happily trade sigils for gold to pay rune pharmers for us.
Peace,
-CxE
sama
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nope
he only trotted out 35 for sale AFTER they increased the drop from 1 to 3 that is 35 wins being hoarded not counting ones sold |
so to repeat, i am perfectly willing to trade sigils for unid runes and money.
also, 5 straight wins = 15 sigils...not hard to do. just did it last night before the shutdown.
Brett Kuntz
Getting to the hoh isn't hard, just time your Enter Mission with the annoucement of who won and you'll be instantly teleported into the HoH, not even a monster round! Just ask Lulu how easy it is!
Shadowsting
Um, sama? Are you forgetting your own "Selling 35 Celestial Sigils" thread, before the 3 per match update? Because I certainly do.
Kishin
Are you forgetting he made that post in April, and people only started making a big deal over it a month later claiming that he was hoarding?
Contrary to popular belief, there is no Vast Celestial Sigil Conspiracy(tm) being perpetuated by those people who are presently ruling the roost over at the HoH. Sigils serve you no purpose once you have a guild hall but to be turned into wealth which can be turned into runes or mods, preferably the former.
-Eirion
Contrary to popular belief, there is no Vast Celestial Sigil Conspiracy(tm) being perpetuated by those people who are presently ruling the roost over at the HoH. Sigils serve you no purpose once you have a guild hall but to be turned into wealth which can be turned into runes or mods, preferably the former.
-Eirion
sama
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Originally Posted by Shadowsting
Um, sama? Are you forgetting your own "Selling 35 Celestial Sigils" thread, before the 3 per match update? Because I certainly do.
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k gg.