It's official: Word of Healing is now impossible to capture.

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

I've been doing Elona's and Thirsty River most of the day, and I'm now convinced that you can't get Word of Healing from either monk boss. I've been going through repeatedly with henchies, can always get to the monk boss, train the henchies on an Enchanted Bow or something else nearby and then I sit and watch the boss. He spams Aegis and Orison like there's no tomorrow, but never uses Word of Healing.

This has to be the biggest disappointment of the update.

-z|o-

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Think the boss always used WoH when attack the priest (in Thursty River atleast). That is before the patch ofcourse.

MaglorD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

I guess it was simply to powerful when you have the priest and the boss using it. Made the last fight so very difficult.

Kershent

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Get a Mesmer friend to come with you. Have him divert one attack after another until the boss is forced to use Word of Healing to keep himself alive.

LoneDust

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

The boss cannot self-cast word of healing. He must target other ally first.

Kershent

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ah, that makes it only a little more complicated. Just keep an ally of his alive, and do the same. Eventually he'll get to Word of Healing.

WillOrWil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

I got Word of Healing last night. As soon as you attack the mob bring up the unique guy and watch what he uses (but don't target him, just bring him up at the top of the screen). Like a previous poster said, WOH cannot be used on the one who casts it. So the unique will use it to heal his allies. He will actually do so very frequently. Last night after SOC'ing it after the first time he used it, I saw him use it 4 more times before his allies died and he was under attack. Just be patient he will definately use it.

Silmor

Silmor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Even in the extremely unlikely case of Word of Healing being removed from every boss in the game, it's not 'official' until ArenaNet makes an announcement that it is. Using terms like that because you're frustrated will just spread disinformation and doesn't help anyone.

Twilight Doll

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Get a Mesmer friend to come with you. Have him divert one attack after another until the boss is forced to use Word of Healing to keep himself alive. There's one problem with this. Diversion delays skills and not spells.

Fantras

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Sacramento California

House Palomides

Mo/Me

Wrong, it delays spells. I have had both skills and spells, if I am not mistaken, delayed by diversion. Unless I am mistaken, it will delay spells and signets.

spiritofcat

spiritofcat

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sydney, Australia

Order of the Sanguine Dragon [OSD]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Doll
There's one problem with this. Diversion delays skills and not spells. Spells are skills but skills are not necessarily spells.

Neo-LD

Neo-LD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

USA

[GSS][SoF][DIII]

took me about 6 tries but I finally got word of healing. 100x easier wityh actual people instead of henchies.

Ellestar

Ellestar

Munchking

Join Date: Mar 2005

Russian Federation, Moscow

Ladder to Hell (ATM playing with Rus Corp)

Got it yesterday in Elona. By the way, i didn't saw icon either, i just used Signet of Capture from time to time, and once it said "Capturing Word of Healing". But i was distracted by managing henchmans at that moment so maybe i just missed the moment when Word of Healing icon appeared.

Keira Darkwind

Keira Darkwind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Clan Arthur

Mo/Me

I got it last night, but it was literally a last ditch attempt before he died and he used Word of Healing to try and save himself. A split second late and I'd have been out of luck

Oracle

Oracle

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

The Zero Meridian

Servants of Fortuna

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keira Darkwind
I got it last night, but it was literally a last ditch attempt before he died and he used Word of Healing to try and save himself. A split second late and I'd have been out of luck
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kershent
Have him divert one attack after another until the boss is forced to use Word of Healing to keep himself alive. I keep seeeing references to the boss using WoH on itself, but this spell cannot be cast on oneself!! It's target OTHER ally.

Just to clear up any miss-information. It's a fantastic spell (which even as an El/Mo I don't hesitate to use), but part of balancing the fact that it's great is that it cannot be used on oneself.

The other Healing Prayers elite spell - Healing Hands - can be used on onself (but personally, I rarely bother with this skill).

Scaphism

Scaphism

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jan 2005

Idiot Savants [iQ]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Doll
There's one problem with this. Diversion delays skills and not spells. This is a good place to clarify the classification of skills.
Every single skill you can put in your skillbar is a skill. Skill is the superset, and there are many subsets.

Superset: Skill
Subsets: Spells, Signets, Attack Skills, Stances, Shouts, Traps, Preparations, Pet Attacks, Nature Rituals, Gylphs. (Feel free to add others if I've forgotten one or two).

(Interesting note: The distinction between "skill" and "spell" is particularly important when considering mesmer interrupts. One of my favorite interrupts, Power Drain, can only be used against Spells. That means it's great for interrupting Elementalists or any spellcaster, really, but it's completely useless against an attack skill like Power Attack, or a signet like Heal Signet. However the wording is a bit tricky to decipher- at first you might think "Power Drain works against spells but not against skills", but you'd be wrong. Power Drain only works against 1 subset of skills- the spell subset.)

Within those there are a few more subsets, particuarly in the Spells category.
Spell Subsets: Spell, Enchantment Spell, Hex Spell.

All spells must have some target- Some target self only, some are other only, some are any ally. Others can only target enemies. Even a spell like heal area has a target- the caster. If you are a primary monk you'll notice you get the Divine Favor bonus when using Heal Area. I *think* it's the same thing with heal party.

Getting back to the original point: Diversion will lock out any skill on the enemy's skillbar, and as I hope I've clarified, spells are a type of skill. Just make sure not to use Diversion on Word of Healing!

Alex Weekes

Alex Weekes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Brighton, UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scaphism
Superset: Skill
Subsets: Spells, Signets, Attack Skills, Stances, Shouts, Traps, Preparations, Pet Attacks, Nature Rituals, Gylphs. (Feel free to add others if I've forgotten one or two). Spell has two subsets as well: Enchantment Spell and Hex Spell.

Likewise the Attack Skills category has subsets (Axe, Hammer, Bow etc).

Juhanah

Juhanah

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

in my house

I captured Word of Healing on the first try in Elona's Reach on my monk with henchmen.
All you have to do is to target a normal monster to have all henchmen attack it. Then just change target to the boss without attacking. As soon as the monster reach lower than 50% the boss will use Word of Healing on it. All you gotta do is capture it.

If the boss (Wissper Inssani) wasn't one of the first 2 i seen, i would just restart the mission. I was lucky that on my first try he was the first forgotten boss i met.

I could have captured it when i first passed the mission with a real party. But i was so busy healing and getting monster off of me, that i realised we were killing him after he died and droped a forgotten seal lol.

DismalClown

DismalClown

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

For those of you who say you can still get word of healing, I guess you didn't see the title of this thread, "It's official: Word of Healing is now impossible to capture." If it's official it's official.

Sarus

Sarus

Ministry of Technology

Join Date: Feb 2005

Washington D.C.

Idiot Savants

Mo/

I was just at thirty river last night and the monk boss at the end was definitely using word of healing. If you try to cap it after killing all the othe mobs he won't use it since word of healing must be cast on a target OTHER ally. So keep at least one other mob alive and beat down that mob to get the boss to cast word of healing.

Juhanah

Juhanah

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

in my house

Quote:
Originally Posted by DismalClown
For those of you who say you can still get word of healing, I guess you didn't see the title of this thread, "It's official: Word of Healing is now impossible to capture." If it's official it's official. The post was posted yesterday at 9:30PM.. I captured it today at 3:something AM from Wissper Inssani in Elona's Reach. So you can capture it.

Fantras

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Sacramento California

House Palomides

Mo/Me

I think he was being sarcastic, Juhanah.

Juhanah

Juhanah

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

in my house

oh .. i'm not good with sarcasm -_-

sorry @ DismalClown if it was sarcastic

Cymmina

Cymmina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Me/N

If I hadn't already captured WoH weeks ago, I could have gotten it easy last night when I ran a friend through Elona Reach at around 11 pm EST.

Bosses won't use their skills willynilly, certain conditions must be met before they will, as the others have already mentioned. Lyssa's Cursed will only use Power Block if someone casts a spell with a healthy casting time. Prince Rurik will only use Hundred Blades when there are multiple targets around him. The WoH bosses will only use it if their ally needs healing.

Super Smurf

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

I got my first try the night before last, with Henchmen. Guess I was lucky.

Twilight Doll

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Well since you guys say diversion can basically delay anything, and it has a 5 second recast timer, you can really disable a monk with this. But i'm going to have to confirm this myself with elite skill echo and see if I can replicate a spell unless has already done it being that I'm not at home right now.

Twilight Doll

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

actually I was wrong... I couldn't see the interruption animation but now I saw the $@#! above their heads.

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Are you sure? I get cry of frustrated while casting fire spells all the time on my elemenatlist while fighting Yxyshkoiuoejfdjf3iorjoejfd (wtver its name is) and its spawn =P