The 30 Attribute Points after lvl 20?

Ok.. im basically wondering for the sake of others and myself where to obtain all of them.

One is a mission from Augury Rock, where you meet up with a forgotten lizzard. Then she sends you to her husband in the middle of nowhere. I have completed this one for 15 attribute points. Now im wondering where the othe 15 come from?

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One quest is the gorge, northeast to augury rock, there is a forgotten quest. Do that and the npc will give you another forgotten quest for 15 pts.

Then you have to finish one of the four 2nd profession conversion quest. Upon completition, go Draknor's forge to see Yanyi or Vanyi, there is a quest called hero's journey requiring you to go hero's audience, gorge and ... seeker's refuge. When you finish that, he will give you another one called hero's challenge. You have to go west from Iron mines to coppermine.

It is a hard trip, there are many ice based mobs slowing you down, so you can't run for it. That is why the quest reward is 5,000 xp and 15 attribute points.