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KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

04 Jun 2005 at 12:07 - 1

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I've a weird bug about: all the PP is moved on the left side of the screen of few pixels, and is very annoying expecially for the background building, wich seems to drop a shadow over the sky, anybody encountered this?

termite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

04 Jun 2005 at 14:08 - 2

Have an image you could show us? Maybe your screen isn't configured properly?

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

04 Jun 2005 at 14:24 - 3

I've got an immage but I dont have any web space to host it, shall I send it to you so you could post it?

Sorry, I just found out how to post an immage

So any advice about this?

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

04 Jun 2005 at 14:35 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAY T

I've got an immage but I dont have any web space to host it, shall I send it to you so you could post it?

You should be able to attach it to the Post here on GWGuru. There is an option to attach files to your posts.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

04 Jun 2005 at 22:02 - 5

Please anybody?

HELP!!!!!

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

04 Jun 2005 at 22:30 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAY T

Please anybody?

HELP!!!!!

Can you post your machine specs please and the Graphics drivers you are using?

Thanks.

With regards to the piccie, it would appear there is a slight shift in the shading. I think the shading is part of the Fantasy look they give to GW which gives it the soft Fantasy feel that makes it look pretty.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

04 Jun 2005 at 22:59 - 7

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.030422-1633)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: AOPEN_
System Model: AWRDACPI
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, ~3.0GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 217MB used, 2309MB available
Windows Dir: D:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0904 32bit Unicode
do you need more?

Principa Discordia

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

England.

04 Jun 2005 at 23:05 - 8

Which graphics card are you running on and which version of its drivers are you using? This is the most important information we could use.

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

04 Jun 2005 at 23:07 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Principa Discordia

Which graphics card are you running on and which version of its drivers are you using? This is the most important information we could use.

He beat me to it.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

04 Jun 2005 at 23:21 - 10

the driver is the latest i guess..

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

04 Jun 2005 at 23:28 - 11

Ok. From this i can't determine what driver version you are running. To find this out,

Right Click your desktop, choose display properties, click settings tab then the Advanced button.
Click on the Options Tab if you have the latest ATI drivers installed.
In there it will tell you the Cat Version and Driver version numbers.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

04 Jun 2005 at 23:33 - 12

There you go, sorry for the inconveninces, I must be very stressful

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

04 Jun 2005 at 23:38 - 13

Ok, one thing to try here is getting hold of the Cat 4.11 driver package. You can try and search the ATI Website for these, but not sure where they hold these drivers.

So it's quite possible you may have to try a driver resource website. Not sure of any, as I haven't had to track these down myself. Maybe someone else has an idea of the location of these drivers.

Also, go to www.guru3d.com and located the ATI driver cleaner package. This will help in cleaning out any conflicting files after you install the v4.7 drivers, reboot, run the cleaner, reboot and then install 4.11.

The reason for the 4.11 drivers, is the older 9700pro card. Various people are experiencing issues with the Cat 5 drivers and older 9xxx series ATI cards.

See if this helps to resolve your current issue.

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

04 Jun 2005 at 23:39 - 14

Just checked the Guru3d website. They have the necessary 4.11 drivers there. Just make sure you download the correct drivers for your OS.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=18

Just found the driver cleaner too.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

04 Jun 2005 at 23:44 - 15

Im getting a bit confused, which one should i download?

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

04 Jun 2005 at 23:47 - 16

The top one is the location of the ATI Drivers which you require the ATI Cat 4.11 drivers.
The 2nd one is the driver cleaner. You use this, once you have uninstalled you old drivers to clean out an files that didn't get uninstalled the first time. This is run after you reboot once you have done the uninstall.
After you have run the driver cleaner program, you reboot again, and then run the Cat 4.11 drivers install program.

Basically, go to both links and get the required files from those locations.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

05 Jun 2005 at 10:14 - 17

now I have the catalyst version 5.5 but still nothing...

I wonder why only I do have this problem, and no other player complained about it.. maybe an option to turn on or off?

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

05 Jun 2005 at 10:21 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAY T

now I have the catalyst version 5.5 but still nothing...

I wonder why only I do have this problem, and no other player complained about it..

Any reason why you went with Cat 5.5 and not 4.11 as I suggested?

I know 4.11 is an older driver, but the older ones seem to be a little more stable on the older cards. Cat 5 version drivers don't really bring too much to the 9xxx series cards in the way of features and may cause more problems.

With regards to the current problem, i would now suggest trying to adjust screen settings both ingame and on your desktop.

Do you still get the same problem if you window GW. If so, then adjusting screen and graphics settings, to low, medium or high is one way to find if there is an impact from these settings.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

05 Jun 2005 at 10:33 - 19

I've tried many different setting, but still nothing, I will now try the 4.11 and i will also check window mode

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

05 Jun 2005 at 10:45 - 20

nothing... not even with 4.11

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

05 Jun 2005 at 10:49 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAY T

nothing... not even with 4.11

Did you use the Driver cleaner and have you tried variations on Refresh rates, screen res, game graphics settings etc. There are lots of combinations and these are the only other things I can think off, apart from trying another graphics card.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

05 Jun 2005 at 11:16 - 22

Oh yes, I've spended the last hour trying different combinations and I feel hopless...

I also think that there's people with the same problem out there, and they just don't know that is not supposed to work like that, like my first week i though everything was normal until I started to ask to people around if was it normal...
Maybe I should try to post this somewhere else?

termite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

05 Jun 2005 at 19:36 - 23

Try turning glowing effects off in the game options.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

05 Jun 2005 at 23:16 - 24

glowing effects? there's no such option, or at least i can't see it

, but if you mean the post-processing, I rather fix the problem than disable it...

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

06 Jun 2005 at 09:42 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAY T

glowing effects? there's no such option, or at least i can't see it

, but if you mean the post-processing, I rather fix the problem than disable it...

Termite is trying to lock down a possible cause of this problem and switching off effects ingame is one way of possibly trying to find the cause of your issue.

I would suggest switching everything off or down to low settings as we have tried most things PC side with regards to graphics drivers and see if anything affects the look of the game and gets rid of what seems to be the problem.

If the problem disappears, then start switching on the options one by one until it reappears. Then switch that option off, and finish off with the rest of the options until you have everything back where you started, then switch that one problem option back on. If it reappears and you know that is the only one causing problems, then it may give GW support something to go on too.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

06 Jun 2005 at 16:17 - 26

I've tried to disable everything and to put the lowest graphics possible, and many more combinations... of course not the post-processing, otherwise I won't see if the probelm is fixed or not...
It's almost like any option i touch dosen't affect it in any way, nor the worst or better..

Do you think I should write an e-mail to the official people responsible to fix this problems?

Principa Discordia

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

England.

06 Jun 2005 at 17:54 - 27

Turn off post-processing effects then turn them on again. Couldn't hurt to try.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

07 Jun 2005 at 21:42 - 28

Of course I did that while experimenting the options the first time...

Anymore ideas?

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

07 Jun 2005 at 22:20 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAY T

Of course I did that while experimenting the options the first time...

Anymore ideas?

Any chance on using another Graphics Card maybe from a friend or something. This way we know if it's definitely hardware or software related?

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

08 Jun 2005 at 17:09 - 30

I am going to my brother house this week-end, he's got the ati 9800, its' almost same to my one, i will try the game there and then i will let you know...

Ohhh.... I feel so desperate...

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

08 Jun 2005 at 17:32 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAY T

I am going to my brother house this week-end, he's got the ati 9800, its' almost same to my one, i will try the game there and then i will let you know...

Ohhh.... I feel so desperate...

Are you taking the PC with you to swap over the cards or just the game?

It may just be a slight glitch in the graphics but at least you are able to play, even if it is annoying.

If you are taking the whole PC, which is the best course of action,
Look forward to seeing the end result and whether the change in card makes a difference.

Remember to completely uninstall the drivers first, run, driver cleaner and then replace the card and run the install of the drivers again.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

08 Jun 2005 at 18:27 - 32

I can play, i still love the way the game is even with that glitch, butyou know after you paid 34 English pounds you really wish everything run smoothly... anyway Im actually going to test the game only, bringing my computer over 600 km is a bit difficult

but at least i will see if is something to do with the card or the rest of the computer since he's got all compontents same as mines, (we bought our computer first and then his, that's why his card is just a model up..).

Dirkiess

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Uk, England.

E/Mo

08 Jun 2005 at 19:28 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAY T

I can play, i still love the way the game is even with that glitch, butyou know after you paid 34 English pounds you really wish everything run smoothly... anyway Im actually going to test the game only, bringing my computer over 600 km is a bit difficult

but at least i will see if is something to do with the card or the rest of the computer since he's got all compontents same as mines, (we bought our computer first and then his, that's why his card is just a model up..).

Now, this is my opinion only and it's entirely up to you, but just taking the game along won't really solve or help to solve your problem, or even pinpoint where the current problem is.

You may well take the game along to your brothers, run it on his PC and everything will probably be fine.

This only makes it look as though there is something wrong with your PC, not pinpointing any of the hardware in your machine as a possible cause to the fault.

If taking the PC is feasibly impossible to do, such as you don't drive, have to go by train, plane or whatever, I suggest you take your card along as well and make sure you pack it in one of the anti static bags that you may have. If you don't have one, just go to PC World or some other PC store and ask if they have a spare Anti Static Bag for Graphics Card size that you can have.
I'm sure they will give you one, as I asked for something a while back and they had one spare i could have.

This way, you can test your card on your brothers PC and know for sure if it's the card or something else in your machine, whether the rest of the machine is the same spec as your brothers or not.

I would go with this option as at least you can find out if you have a faulty card that way, and would save the effort of more analisys if in fact the card is faulty.

KAY T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

12 Jun 2005 at 21:38 - 34

HURRAY!!!!! problem solved!

I remembered that while i was playing Sacred I've encountered a weird problem which I was adviced to fix it be switching the option in the compatibility button "alternate pixel center" on.
So by switching that off the game goes perfectly

The only really minor "bug" is a graphic glitch while displaying the city names, something like little dots under the letters, but that's not an issue for me

Thank you for all your help anyway guys!!!