a Pet Peeve, or two ;p (lfg vs lfp)

Stone

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Sacred Order

E/Mo

see for yourself , check the PARTY Formation List when you join a PARTY...

everytime i see som1 ad "lfg" i cant help but wonder why.. tonight i finally said something.. aka "lfg=looking for guild, lfp=looking for party, logical isint it" to which i was called a noob & told if i new anything about gaming id know lfg = looking for group..

well i been net wise since 1996 , played online games from dodgy link type adventure rpg's to darkspace,mu,xiah, not to mention a whole host of text based crap & 90% of the time a hunting party was just that , a Party..

Seems also logical , i mean you have a game with both guilds & groups(parties) so to make easier for abbrevs & such u would make one different capital, aka P for Party , which if u look at your list when you join a "group" it says PARTY FORMATION , it doesnt say Group Formation does it ? sigh..

i know this is a pretty sad peeve but its mine nonetheless, do i have a point or am i just peeing into the wind?

oh also annoyed with lamerz who try to sell me runes that arent my primary, (they really gotta put a warning on these types of items) actually got sucked in tonight for 500g after i partied som1 & afterwards they offered me the rune, seeing healing & being tired maybe subconcsiesly building a trust for this elessa person , i fell for it & well got called a noob etcetc & laughed at ...ya i thought it was funny too.. <_<

sigh... Gotta love that Human Spirit.. so honest, so honourable, so...

Dumachum

Dumachum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

na

R/E

LFG has = Looking For Group for forever and a day.

Red Locust

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

plus, who goes around in coop mission staging areas looking for a guild?

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

i totally agree with original poster

it is asinine and ludicrous that "LFG" 'supposedly' means looking for group

when i see someone say LFG i invite them into my Guild. if i get the message that they are already in a Guild, then i whisper them that they are not-so-bright for saying LFG when they are already in a Guild

nechronius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Southern Cali

Herald of the Storm

W/R

Majority rules when it comes to informal abbreviations in common usage. And majority says that lfg = looking for group.

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

Navaros you might wanna steer clear of the HoH then lest you be whispering hundreds of people in a few hours.

LFG has always meant Looking for Group and I really can't recall a single time that the G has meant Guild.

If someone's looking for a guild they'll go "Looking for guild!"

No reason to abbreviate that.

nechronius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Southern Cali

Herald of the Storm

W/R

Hehe, people might have more of an argument on their side if there were recruiters typing "g looking for recruits! We have g capes and a g hall! Active g members only!"

DarrenJasper

DarrenJasper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumachum
LFG has = Looking For Group for forever and a day.
Quoted for gotdamn truth, niblets

Syklone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

LFG = Looking for group. Always has been since day one for me.

Oh, and to the original poster, I am Bill Gates and I have been in playing online games from dodgy link since 1876 and the type of adventure rpg's to darkspace,mu,xiah, tron, Evercracks and Dark Age of Zealots.

Just go with the flow, LFG = Looking for Group.

Unless your guild is 2,998,366 guild members in size from all the lucky LFG people you just amassed into your guild. Good on ya for getting all those Looking for Guilds people.

C-Tzar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

North AL, USA

E/Mo

Who spams "looking for guild"? I would never join a guild that just accepted every spammer that came along. Nor would I invite anyone randomly spamming for a guild invite. What kind of a guild would that make?

Zeffy

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yea, utlimately LFG has always meant looking for a group in all MMO's.

Stone

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Sacred Order

E/Mo

just think its illogical.. so i guess a rally to get LFP is off the boards?

see if som1 just says LFG , i also consciesly feel to pm them & see if my guild interests them.. i bet you this is another one of them yankie things where they just have to be confusingly different to be well .. different like driving on the wrong side of the road.. I bet you bastages even manage to throw your cats down on their heads/backs & drop toast so the butter lands up, & yea im onto that water down the dunny swirling wrong way conspiracy also >.<

ok well i spose ill just conform to the majority & go with the flow , but it doesnt mean i have to agree with it ^_^

Till my next Rant :Inpatient quitters

bwuahahhaha ",..,"

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

Quote:
drop toast so the butter lands up, & yea im onto that water down the dunny swirling wrong way conspiracy also
Well my butter does land up, never thought about it.


And there's a scientific explanation as to why it does that. Now what it is, I dunno, but I know there's a reasonable explanation for it.

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Locust
plus, who goes around in coop mission staging areas looking for a guild?
I see it all the time

thurinn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Guild Wars has been the first game where I've seen LFG used. In other games it's always been LFP. But whatever, it makes no difference to me.

Cronox

Cronox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

LFT - looking for team

is also acceptable.

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

In my own experiences

LFP and LFM means you are already in a party and looking for more


LFP (looking for players)
LFM (looking for more)

Harlas Kije

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

NW Indiana

Mo/E

I did take a breather from MMORPG's for a year or so. BUT from Ultima Online/Dark Ages of Camelot/Everquest it was always LFG to mean looking for a group. And seeing as how many of us playing have jumped from online game to online game--I think LFG is prob going to stay.

nub

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

honestly i don't see any reason to abbreviate anything in the first place, and i myself always write my sentences in full, but that's just me.

Quote:
LFM (looking for more)
people have been using that as "looking for monk"

Keesa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Hotlanta

Pink Fluffy Bunniez

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
Well my butter does land up, never thought about it.


And there's a scientific explanation as to why it does that. Now what it is, I dunno, but I know there's a reasonable explanation for it.
Hemisphere/polarity. Ed.: Errr... the swirly thing, not the butter thing.

Azmodan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/Me

Most of the time, I see "LFG for mission and bonus". Now why would anyone be looking for a guild just to complete one mission?

This is the first game of this type that I've played, and I knew the meaning of "LFG" the first time I saw it.

Joshjje

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Every single MMORPG that I have ever played (some didnt even have guilds) LFG has meant Looking For Group, everyone has always used it, everyone always WILL use it....also the amount of players looking for a group is MUCH larger than the player base looking for a guild. Its like changing the name of French Fries to Freedom Fries...who the hell called them Freedom Fries? Like 1% of the population. You cant change tradition...at least not easily.

Voob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

England

Europeans United

E/Me

Personally I don't abbreviate it at all. I say the full word, "Looking for group", why abbreviate it? All you have to do is type it once (since after that you can simply press the up key and the last message typed appears. You can even scroll through a number of previous messages).

Talesin Darkbriar

Talesin Darkbriar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

California - irrigated desert...

The Myrmidon

E/N

Stone; I, and most everyone else would take you more seriously if you spent time developing your basic writing and comprehension skills.
Your use of language creates a strong first impression; particularly on the internet.
I get the impression you are illiterate, under 13, or both.
(If you write like an illiterate, don't be offended as being taken for one.)

If you were "net wise" since 1996, you know full well LFG is the standard abbreviation across many MMORPGS as looking for group. But again, I assume you comprehend what an abbreviation is, my mistake.

Regards,

Talesin

Stone

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Sacred Order

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar
Stone; I, and most everyone else would take you more seriously if you spent time developing your basic writing and comprehension skills.
Your use of language creates a strong first impression; particularly on the internet.
I get the impression you are illiterate, under 13, or both.
(If you write like an illiterate, don't be offended as being taken for one.)

If you were "net wise" since 1996, you know full well LFG is the standard abbreviation across many MMORPGS as looking for group. But again, I assume you comprehend what an abbreviation is, my mistake.

Regards,

Talesin
wow, i didnt know i had to be University educated to post as long as my points can be understood , which im pretty sure 90% of others here can , tho i thank you for your constructive insults , getting personal insulting me as an illiterate is merely a joke but if you wish to whip your d!ck out & swing it around by all means Go ahead.

I am 29 next month & a father of 9 , i am only self educated so forgive me if i dont add correct grammatical sentances or punctuation.. Besides if i was really educated in that way i would be creating games , not playing them. well maybe a bit of both.

another pet peeve i spose is idiots that think theyre 200+ iq matters in a gaming forum. Hardly official documentation id think. Try Relax a bit.

Anyway , I will post if i have a question & i will post if i want to say something, Im sure now i will be more careful that i dont offend such sophisticated ppl , but i doubt i will be spell checking.
I am your everyday self made bloke with 4 protruded spinal discs wanting to play a game & be apart of the gaming community , i am not a Bot or a Failed uni tech trying to look educated in a gaming forum. I will do my best to use common sense tho .

hrmm Wanna pic perhaps , im the ugly bloke at the bottom...

Karn

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

LFG has been looking for group in the following games...

Ultima Online, Everquest, Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft.. Im quite sure there are more, but those are the ones I've played..

If you have issues with using LFG as Looking for group, then don't use it, use LFP if you want. It all comes down to personal preference really, the majority though uses and understands LFG. Wanting to get the small percentage of players that actually read and participate in the forums of fan sites to boycott LFG so that LFP gets mainstream is a very unlikely goal considering the circumstances.

But like I said if you dislike the abbrev you don't have to use it. But LFG is mainstream for Looking for Group.

Sir Maddox

Sir Maddox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Me/E

In the end, it's how you wish to take it. I've never taken LFG as "Looking for Guild" but it's a possibility. However, seeing as they are called "PUGs - Pick up Groups" and not "PUPs - Pick up Parties" I'm inclined to say "Looking for Groups" would be the more common usage. However, I could see it being used in either function, it would just require the use of specificity.

LFG: With Hall, Cape, PvP. (Guild)
LFG: Doing Mission (Lvl 20 Me/E) (Group)
LFM: 5/6 doing Mission (Completely Ambiguous) :P



On a side note, another online game I play uses LTB (Looking to Buy) and LTS (Looking to Sell.) This doesn't mean I get "peeved" when I see WTS/WTB, it merely means you have to adapt to the general consensus and not let something trivial affect your gameplay.

So, I guess yes, you're peeing in the wind.

*Hands you a raincoat*

Night

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I'll back you on the LFG as soon as you start ranting about people who ask "Do you have rez skill or signet?" or "Everyone equip rez signet if you don't have rez skill." or "What quest gets you the rez signet?". At least the G can stand for group. The last time I looked in a dictionary the letter 'Z' isn't in the word resurrection.

General Bashalot

General Bashalot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Vancouver BC

Army of Ascension

W/Mo

ICBIWMTRTT= I can't believe I wasted my time reading this thread...

Ordas

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninna
In my own experiences

LFP and LFM means you are already in a party and looking for more


LFP (looking for players)
LFM (looking for more)

I thought

LFM = Looking For Members

Another thing that throws me off is:

GTG
"Everyone Ready?"
-"gtg!"
"what? you have to go?! damnit. alright"
-"no no, not 'got to go', 'good to go'!"


I've always known gtg = got to go, as in you're leaving :P

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keesa
Hemisphere/polarity. Ed.: Errr... the swirly thing, not the butter thing.
Swirly = Coriolis Effect
Butter/toast thing = Effect of gravity torquing the bread; R A J Matthews 1995 Eur. J. Phys. 16 172-176

The whole explanation

Stone

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Sacred Order

E/Mo

hehe , thx for the raincoat & positive feedback in aus a peeve is just a small annoyance, nothing much but gave me a reason to post & felt at the time a type of "community discussion"

oh if some didnt notice even tho the explanations are great, i was just kidding with the conspiracy remarks... i often try to be humourous , just not very good at it :S

ICBIWMTPTT but i had to post something, my fingers were itchy.... >_>

Skrag

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
when i see someone say LFG i invite them into my Guild. if i get the message that they are already in a Guild, then i whisper them that they are not-so-bright for saying LFG when they are already in a Guild
Let me get this straight...

You see "LFG" and can't figure out that they're asking for a group not a guild, since "LFG" has meant "Looking for Group" since probably the first game it ever needed to be announced in...

And you're telling these other people that *they* are not-so-bright?

Ok.

Sure.

Have fun with that.