Going crazy in Pre-Searing

Dusk_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

07 Jun 2005 at 20:05 - 1

I decided to try something fun, and get to the highest level I possibly can in Pre-searing. I've only done 3 quests so far (Message for a Friend, War Preperations and Necromancer Trainer). I'm currently level 6, 1/4 of the way to level 7, and I'm looking for ways to make this easier

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First off, is there any area with a nice concentration of level 3+ monsters besides the Northlands? I'm currently running around Wizard's Folly, but those enemies are somewhat few and far between, relatively speaking.

Also, if I were to try and take out Charr in the Northlands, what do you think would be the best secondary for a Necro to do it?

Finally, does anyone know about how much exp all the quests in Pre-Searing total to? I could find out myself, but it's easier to just ask first

salatious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Richmond, Va

Looking for a better Guild

E/Mo

07 Jun 2005 at 20:28 - 2

well i did every quest available in pre-searing and reached level 7, if that helps. and if you want to farm xp then i would go threw the northern gate and kill the charr in a group of 4 people. we were getting about 100x per kill there when i was last there level 7. other than that i cant say were would be a great farming spot for xp pre-searing

Dusk_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

07 Jun 2005 at 20:31 - 3

4 people

? So, how did you break the party limit

JoDiamonds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New England

07 Jun 2005 at 20:35 - 4

Well, in theory, you should be able to get to (( whatever the highest creatures level that exists Pre-Academy)) + 6 (when they stop giving you experience).

If you are REALLY trying.

It's possible you could wait for the quests until after that, and it MIGHT be enough experience to give you another level, but probably not.

What's the highest level of any monster? Something like 8-10, right? So maybe you could get to level 16.

They should put a single level 14 creature in the Northlands, so you could have a level 20 character (but no more XP after that

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

07 Jun 2005 at 20:39 - 5

these might help

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...-10-id1195.php

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...lon-id1264.php

Dusk_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

07 Jun 2005 at 21:09 - 6

Heh, while level 16 sounds fun, I don't think I'll go that crazy. 12 is probably the highest without spending days to get 1/4 of my exp bar.

And briefly skimming the quests, there should be enough to give me one level once I reach 10-12. Maybe 2, who knows.

Now, I wonder how much I'll be able to slaughter the other Academy team once I'm finished

Pyro Master

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

I'm currently in Shiverpeak Mountains

Warriors of Ascalon Republic [war]

W/R

07 Jun 2005 at 21:28 - 7

I advanced to searing at level 7 after doing about 35 quests

Dusk_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

07 Jun 2005 at 22:33 - 8

There's 35 quests? Hmm, average them out at 250 each...- the 3 I've done already...

8000 exp. Yeah, that'll get me a level.

EDIT: I've found the highest concentration of level 5 monsters that isn't in the Northlands. And it consists of 2 Melandru's Stalkers. Whoopee

[email protected]

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

07 Jun 2005 at 23:38 - 9

Probably a waste of time for return characters to stay past lvl 3. First timers may benefit up to lvl 8.

My time after the beta I left at lvl 10, cause i was having fun playing in the Northlands. Lvl 8 was easy to obtain doing missions, but now that's not worth it.

Since then, I leave after getting every skill and doing the one important quest (you know which one I'm referring to?). That's about lvl 3, and it's more fun low level in post anyway.

I tryed gaining the LEAST experience yesterday. I was able to gather all the skills and do the ONE important quest, and still leave at lvl 1 but got stuck with all henchies to post sear, so I had to kill stuff and got to lvl 2 after killing the very last charr. Gotta play it this weekend and see if I might scrap that character or not. It is possible to stay lvl 1 and have all the skills and points as a lvl 10 guy btw.

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

08 Jun 2005 at 00:50 - 10

Don't forget to do all the quests to test secondarys before using choosing your last one.

BrankoZ

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Largo, Florida

08 Jun 2005 at 15:56 - 11

It seemed like there were a lot of Skale Broodcallers (lvl 3) down by the waterfall in Regent Valley, near where Aidan sends you to get the ranger skills. Other than that, I'd try the catacombs. Think gargoyles were lvl 3

BrankoZ

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Largo, Florida

08 Jun 2005 at 16:00 - 12

Oh and there's also a drake or something out in the lake just east of the Ascalon gates that was lvl 3 or 4

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

08 Jun 2005 at 16:24 - 13

I intend to try the same thing. I'm going to make a character that will never leave pre-searing (that way if I miss the place, I won't have to delete a character.)

My advice would be to level as far as you can with mobs, don't do any quests at all (none, zero). Once you're a high enough level that even the strongest boss you can find gives you no exp, then do the quests for the remaining exp.

That being said, what is the highest level badguy you can find in pre-searing?

salatious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Richmond, Va

Looking for a better Guild

E/Mo

08 Jun 2005 at 16:51 - 14

over the wall is level 7 and 8, best XP farming there

salatious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Richmond, Va

Looking for a better Guild

E/Mo

08 Jun 2005 at 16:52 - 15

over the wall is level 7 and 8, best XP farming there. you can only get there in a group with other players becasue you need someone to pull the lever whil you walk through. its on a timer and you cant pull it and then run down to go through the gate.

Rhunex

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Dark Nightmare

08 Jun 2005 at 22:13 - 16

Well, if I were you, I'd stick to soloing in wizards folly, there's a few routes you can take in the area west of the main road, and it loops back to Green Hills, where you exit/enter and your monsters are all back again. I'd keep doing that until you were level 9(I think this is the level they stop giving exp there, not sure). Then, get a friend of high level and farm the Northlands until you no longer get exp there per kill either, then finish all your quests and be teh most l33tz0rs in pre searing. Good luck with that by the way...

JoDiamonds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New England

09 Jun 2005 at 04:58 - 17

In the change notice today, they mentioned they fixed it so Pre Searing doesn't break if you are higher than level 15.

Funny. =)

Rhunex

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Dark Nightmare

09 Jun 2005 at 05:06 - 18

Why do you people stay in pre searing so long!!!! You wierdos need to progress through the game!!!! Making the little lvl 9s and 10s at north wall look BAD...lol

Have fun wasting time...

Danica Kalmar

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Austria

09 Jun 2005 at 06:24 - 19

after doing all missions and exploring every bit in pre-sear i was lvl 8 with my first char, my second was only permitted to do the missions and reached lvl 7, both half way to the next lvl.

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

10 Jun 2005 at 14:39 - 20

When I do it, I'm not looking at it as wasting time at all. Tehre are two approaches.

1-I accidentally skipped pre-searing on my first char. (didn't take the "you're not coming back" warning seriously)
2-I want to be able to go back and visit pre-searing later. At the moment, I dont feel like it's important to have 4 level 20 ascended super-heroes...

Daedric Akaul

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jun 2005 at 18:40 - 21

Dusk_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

10 Jun 2005 at 19:14 - 22

Hey, does the Academy PvP give you any exp? If so, I could just keep doing that, then leave right after the battle

Mana Garmr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Ireland

R/Mo

10 Jun 2005 at 19:44 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedric Akaul

I got to level 9 in pre searing before xp became next to impossible to get.I found one way is to run from Ascalon city and kill The Bull (level 5).You will get 100 xp then travel back to Ascalon City and repeat.It gets very boring but the xp came very fast. I think the River Drake in that area is also level 5. Or you could just get another player to help you go north of the wall and fight the charr.

Lek Stacy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

Savage Killers (SK)

N/Mo

10 Jun 2005 at 19:45 - 24

I still have a character in pre-searing. I've mentioned this before in other posts, but I'll say it again. I enjoy having a chracter in pre-searing so I can go back and visit. I really like the look of pre-searing. I also like helping out players new to the game, so I figured the best place for that is in the pre. Those are the main reasons, others would be finding out what the rabbit is all about, it's fun cleaning out north of the wall, would like to find out what that rabbit is about. Check out any new updates that change pre-searing, and figuring out that rabbit!

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

10 Jun 2005 at 20:59 - 25

I wouldn't waste your time with this unless it's a personal goal. They recently patched it so that you could keep playing your character past level 16 in pre-searing so obviously, someone made it to that level and their character got broken.

I made the trip to post-searing @ level 11. I hunted the Northlands solo and that's where I got most of my experience.

Rhunex

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Dark Nightmare

10 Jun 2005 at 22:00 - 26

How do you hunt the Northlands solo?

Anyways, the attached picture shows a route that leads through some hulking stone elementals, all level 3. It's an easy run, and if you collect the enchanted stones you get gold up to the platinums(if you level up to 9 or so on them).

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

11 Jun 2005 at 00:13 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhunex

How do you hunt the Northlands solo? Patience and tactical thinking.

I did it as a Ranger/Necro, though I didn't really use any Necromancer skills.

The roaming death squads I pulled to the monk when I could. Sometimes they'd get stuck in meshes and I picked them off from a distance.

The temple area required tactical hunting with regards to taking down targets in a certain order.

It wasn't all that hard once you start doing it a few times.

Dusk_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

11 Jun 2005 at 02:51 - 28

How do you pull to the Monk? Whenever I try it, I get pegged off before I make it half-way. Either that, or I outspeed them, and they go back to where they were.

primal98

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

11 Jun 2005 at 03:13 - 29

wont u eventually,though, recieve 0xp? So I mean there must be a certain limit :/

~prime

Rhunex

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Dark Nightmare

11 Jun 2005 at 10:33 - 30

Well, I mean...seriously HOW do you do northlands solo...? Is there some entrance to it where you don't need 2 people? Or do you just get someone to come along, open the gate and then leave while you get XP?

JoDiamonds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New England

11 Jun 2005 at 18:38 - 31

You always need to two at least open the door.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

11 Jun 2005 at 22:46 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhunex

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

24 Jun 2005 at 05:52 - 33

Currently I'm doing this as a Monk. I've only done one quest and that was saving Gwen (500 experience) so that I could get access to skills. I JUST turned level 7.

A good run, especially for a monk, is to take a trip to the level 5 boss in the catacombs (you go through a moderately long corridor of level 1 and 3 undead). Also, with the new change to bosses giving 2x the experience, it becomes very much worth it.

I'm also doing a side project of 0 deaths.

Oh, and I noticed they added 4 more NPC's to the Northlands area. I can't solo the area with my monk (and keep 0 deaths), but I bet I'd have a MUCH easier time with my ranger.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

25 Jun 2005 at 01:41 - 34

Level 8 now. At this point, I only gain experience from level 3 and above.

There's plenty of level 3 creatures to go hunt, but @ 16 XP a pop (and I need 6140 to get to 9) it's just not worth the effort.

Level 4 creatures? Just not enough of them and when you do find a small cluster, it takes a while to get to them.

Level 5. There's two Melandru's Stalkers out in Regent Valley, but the time walking back and forth from the warp zone would kill you. There are 4 level 5 charr that you can go after in the Charr at the Gates quest (you can abandon the quest and keep re-doing it), but unless you do most of the damage you won't get the experience (so you leave Rurik behind and do it solo). This would require 26 trips (48 experience each + kill the level 5 bull on the way out), doable but still a MAJOR pain in the ass.

Level 6. Only in the Northlands.

Level 7. None.

Level 8. Only in the Northlands.

Level 9. None.

Level 10. The end and 4 of them in the Northlands.

So, that brings us to hunting in the Northlands. It's doable, even solo, but if you're someone (like me) that's trying to see how far you can go without dying.. it's suicide.

I will say this though, the best run I've found for going from 1 to 8 has been the catacombs (a specific run that leads you to a level 5 boss). At level 7, I was getting 18% of my 'experience needed to level' from each run and a run is only 15 minutes long.

..and lastly..

I have a good collection of dye and 1.8 plat from this

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

25 Jun 2005 at 04:00 - 35

I'm doing the 5 level 5's over and over and let me tell you, it's sloooooooow and borrrrrrrring and annoyyyyyyying.

Unless you can solo the Northlands at level 8 (probably only a ranger or healing warrior can do this without dying; anyone willing to die ALOT can do this), I feel level 8 is the sanity limit (level 9 DEFINITELY would be (again, keep in mind, I'm also trying NOT to die)).

Dusk_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

25 Jun 2005 at 06:24 - 36

I'm also at Level 8 now with my Necro

. I've only done the initial 3 quests, meaning Message for a Friend, War Preperations and Necromancer Trainer, only because I thought they were necessary to bring out the first Necro Trainer.

I also have all my skills (by talking to the person, then abandoning the quest) plus a level 8 Warthog.

I've started partying with other people to level in the Northlands, and that works surprisingly well. Me and an E/Mo managed to take down two of the bosses. Need another 2k to reach 9.

A fun tip for anyone with Blood Renewal. You can use it to drag the Academy Monk anywhere you want, with enough coaxing.

Right now, my character looks like this:

Blood - 7
Soul Reaping - 2

Vampiric Gaze
Vampiric Touch
Life Siphon
Blood Renewal
Faintheartedness
Troll Ungent
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal

Plus 2.3 Plat, 2 silver dyes, 2 reds, 3 blues, and Minor Death and Axe Mastery Armours.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

25 Jun 2005 at 06:38 - 37

That Blood Renewal is a nice trick. Wish I had known about that, or thought of it, when I was soloing as my ranger. Would have saved me a TON of time. Nice!

I'm halfway to 9, figure about another 13 trips to those damned charr (5 of 5). What I do is get them to stand on one side of the hill while I Banish and Bane them to death. Slow going, but only way I can moderately prevent death.

If it wasn't for this 0 death attempt I'm doing, I'd be spending all my time in the Northlands.

You may want to consider dropping your Ranger secondary and go for Monk secondary. Not sure what you'll get, but I suspect at least one healing, one attack, and not sure the other. That'll give you a little bit more umph while only suffering a little on your health regen.

HOWEVER!

Without a pet, your soloing in the Northlands will be INCREDIBLY tough as your pet can help you shake aggro when you need to.

Dusk_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

25 Jun 2005 at 07:00 - 38

Yeah, I actually don't have a secondary yet, so I can switch it around as much as I want. The pet really helps when I'm dragging patrols to the NPCs though, as they generally try to kill it first.

And thanks for pointing out those Charr at the gate. As fun as the Northlands is, it's tough to find good partners, or people that will just leave me there.

EDIT: Hmm, with those Charr at the gate, would it work to run to the top of the Gate and spam skills like Bane signet and Banish? Or would they still hit you/be out of range?

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

25 Jun 2005 at 21:23 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusk_

And thanks for pointing out those Charr at the gate. As fun as the Northlands is, it's tough to find good partners, or people that will just leave me there. Yeah, I know what you mean

I'll look into going to the top of the gate and see what happens with the charr.

My route takes me to the bull, then from the bull, I run straight to the charr. I run against the side of this hill and I draw them back towards it and I hide around a corner.

The axe/blade charr will follow me, but they're easy to take out 1-on-1. The rest of the charr will hang back trying to attack me through the hill.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

25 Jun 2005 at 23:24 - 40

Banish/Bane'ing them from the top of the wall won't work. They just run up to your area.

I'm 9 now, 6720 experience from 10. That's 43 trips to this area. Oi!