Skills - Battle Rage

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

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-=TnA=-nuclearparadox

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

where is this skill located?

Hooshang

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Tehran, Iran

W/

In witmans folley, theres a grawl that has it. just spam the soc until you get it since it doesnt show whether he uses it or not.

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

i seen somwhere that it is located in Talus by a Mountain Troll, but everytiem i go to where the boss is supposed to be i never see him...

I am gonna check Witmans, but if anyone really knows where it is, pls post

Edit: I checked witman's and the warriro grawl there uses "Victory Is Mine!" and not Battle Rage

Draken

Draken

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

The Exiled

troll boss north west of draknars forge is where i got it. also a troll boss in snake dance but thats a little bit harder to get too.

Elythor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Elysium Protectorate [EP]

I got it off the Troll boss in the ice cave in Talus Chute. If you can't find him, just go back to town and run out again. Its close enough to Droknar's Forge that it is not that big of a hassle to cap the skill.

-=TnA=-nuclearparadox

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

that troll boss isnt there 90% of the time... when he was there he was a ranger

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

W/

check both sides of the cave, oftentimes they'll both spawn. (one on each side)

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/AllTalusTroll.JPG

this will probably help to locate the troll boss
http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/ has screenshots for basically every elite skill (apart from some like the skills captured from facets in dragon's lair, that's not screenshotable, but you can't miss them either)

Bartuc

Bartuc

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Champions of the kings

W/Mo

troll northwest of drok is in a cave his name is krog smush

Erin Go Bragh

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Chicago, IL

Charter Vanguard

W/Mo

wow!
that xennon site is awesome! i haven't seen something that detailed in a long time. everyone should check it out.
its very useful.

Apoc

Apoc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Montreal, Canada

Quebekers Alliance [QKA]

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Capped it from the Troll boss in Talus Chute.

scourge

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Death Knights Warriors

Mo/

as has been said both bosses are there most of the time. both bosses can spawn on either side so check both sides. if he's not there try again and check both sides.... if he's not there twice in a row he's gone on holiday

hotspur

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

England

New Dragons

W/Mo

I think the area where you get this is called Talus Chute, NE of Droknars.
This is a really cool Elite skill, probably my favorite yet.

Queto

Queto

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Belgium

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

A/W

You sould really try to make a build around this skill Works perfectly with axe

karunpav

karunpav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Yeah, I just got this skill today and it is really good for farming. I used it when farming griffons and I killed 5 by the time it ended (15 seconds). I highly recommend it.

hotspur

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

England

New Dragons

W/Mo

I put on mending, wait for my energy to regen then I use Battle Rage then dismember then axe rake then axe twist---repeat, (add cyclone axe when needed). This will kill just about anything as long as they dont strip mending.

Banebow

Banebow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

[KoA] Knights of the Alliance

Me/

This seems bugged of late, if you use it while it is up (which, it being a non-attack skill, ends battle rage) you lose only one hit worth of adrenaline, from using an adrenaline-based skill. Previously, when used while it was up, you would lose all adrenaline. I have a suspicion, though unconfirmed, that non-attack skills like drain enchantment, while they end it, do not empty your adrenaline.

If it stays this way, I could see this having an actual use, since you can keep it up indefinately and attack with adrenaline-based skills quite a bit. Still, not as nice as eviscerate, but can work well with swords.

entropy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Queto
You sould really try to make a build around this skill Works perfectly with axe Actually a sword warrior would be better since an axe warrior with out eviscerate in pvp is just horrible. PvE is fine though.

Raumoheru

Raumoheru

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

this skill is a great counter to kiting. you will always be moving 25% faster and be able to stick on your target.

DeanBB

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

"When Battle Rage ends, you lose all adrenaline."

If you keep renewing it before it expires do you still lose all adrenaline?

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

Yeah.,... when you refresh it ends then begins again

Fenix Swiftblade

Fenix Swiftblade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Illusion of Competence

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by entropy
Actually a sword warrior would be better since an axe warrior with out eviscerate in pvp is just horrible. PvE is fine though. This skill work a lot better with an axe than with a sword(or a hammer). If you want to do adrenaline based damage with a sword you pretty much need Final Thrust, and having two skills that lose all of your adrenaline is tough to pull off. Because you lose all your adrenaline when Battle Rage ends, you have to restart it before it ends. You will still lose all of your adrenaline, but now you can still gain double to get it all back, instead of having to attack 4 times to get it back up naturally.

The key point is that instead of getting Eviscerate every 7 hits, you can charge both Penetrating and Executioners up in half the time. Combine this with Dismember so you still get the nice deep wound effect, and you start really dealing out damage. Plus, with battle rage, when you use an adrenal attack, you get a net gain of 1 hit on your other adrenal attacks instead of just breaking even. You lose the huge spike from Evis, but your overall dps goes up.

Also, because it also give you the constant speed increase (assuming you can hit, and if you can't hit, speed increases might not be your biggest problem) you don't need to bring anything else to catch up with your target. With Eviscerate you don't need to bring anything else to cause deep wound, and with battle rage, you don't need anything else to increase speed. So, if you want both deep wound and speed increase on your bar, you don't gain any extra skills by bringing either one over the other.

Now, your build mught need a huge spike, in which case Eviscerate is the way to go. But if you need the DPS (and executioners strike isn't that much less damage than evis, you just don't get the deep wound at the same time, which makes evis much harder to heal) Battle Rage is better than Evis.

When I get some more time I'll write up a chart showing the different average dps's, and either prove myself right or wrong.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

I use Battle Rage for PvE only. Combined with the collector Crimson Carapace Shield (+45 health -2 dmg in stance), you can keep Battle Rage running, giving you a constant dmg reduction and hp bonus. Great for those groups where the monk is busy starting at the sky while you get your butt kicked.

Cecil The Magician

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

E/N

I would take Battle Rage over Eviscerate any day. Why? because if I have Battle Rage and Executioners Strike, I basically have Battle Rage and Cleave. All Cleave is is Executioners Strike for half the adrenaline, but your gaining double with Rage so now they are no different. As for the Deep Wound effect of Eviscerate, I find that I dont need it when I have Battle Rage, Exc. Strike, Penetrating Blow and Pwr Atk. And it's a skill you can basically constantly use, so your always moving 25%, which means people aren't getting away from you.

disaster422

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

But I Have A Wife And Kids[QQ]-leader

W/

probly one of the best elite warrior skills out there cuz of 1.doubles adrenaline 2.move 25% faster(like sprint) 3.only 4 adrenaline cost 4.most good sword/axe/hammer skills use high adrenaline and this makes the skills fast to use(eg.exec. strike and galrath slash). this way u can spam those high adrenaline skills and own btw i got it outta rankor at some troll boss near a cave. not hard to get if u get a capping group thats mostly lvl 20s.i got it on first try but idk if hes always there.

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

As an arena skill, it's not that bad. You can grab maintained enchantments, or expensive spells that can only be cast rarely, and use Battle Rage on the side, and you're no worse for the wear.

Otherwise, it's not very good at all.
You get a run buff, which is useless when the target's not moving, and a double adrenaline buff, which provides no additional base damage. If the target is running and you haven't built up the adrenaline required yet, you face the same problem as warriors who bring Rush, and it DOES happen at times.

Frenzy, the warrior stance of choice (with Sprint when the target is running, though many teams run Crippling Shot rangers to pin targets anyway), yields 50% more attacks in the same time period, which means a 50% damage increase on the base, and 50% more adrenaline.

Battle Rage's most annoying little quirk is the 'ends when you use a non-attack skill', making your periodic refreshes of it wipe the adrenaline out. When that broke a while back, and it stopped ending when you used non-attack skills, it was actually a pretty good skill. A bit crazy to be able to charge "Fear Me!" every 2 hits, but in the end, it's really just 3/4ths a second faster than what you could do with Frenzy or Flurry.

Fenix Swiftblade

Fenix Swiftblade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Illusion of Competence

R/W

Now that I know how Dark Fury really works I don't like this skill anymore.

ChewyCHunkyChocolateMonkE

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

E/Me

quick question: was this skill changed at all since the PvP build "Hunter Endurance" was made?

Undressed

Undressed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Reich

none

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[QUOTE=Mercury Angel] If the target is running and you haven't built up the adrenaline required yet, you face the same problem as warriors who bring Rush, and it DOES happen at times.QUOTE]

There are wands for that you know. 4A is not too hard to get. Mostly you won't need more than 2 "hits", unless you run hammer bash where Rush wouldn't be my recommendation (rather Dev -> Crush -> Fierce).