Hi guys,
I just want the experienced players give me your opinion about 2nd profession E/Mo or E/Me. I know that there were several questions like this but I found the answers were depends on your characters and what you want to do. So here are what I want to do
- Play solo in quest to enjoy the game (except for team quest/mission). I dont like to play in team much since my internet connection is not so good. It went off and on quite often.
- Gain Exp as fast as possible by killing monsters. I like to try to kill monster by myself to practise skills.
- I prefer PvE more than PvP
So which path I should take? I am now at pre-searching and haven't choose the 2nd profession. I also know that you can change your 2nd profession later on but it is too far away. From now to that point of time, I need an advice to have a good profession suited to my type.
Thx a lot (for both reading and answering).
Again and again
NightBaron
Angels Touch
If you truly want to "Solo" as in no henchmen (this is very difficult) you will almost have to go with the monk as secondary, any other healing method will probably not be sufficient.
ManadartheHealer
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Originally Posted by Angels Touch
If you truly want to "Solo" as in no henchmen (this is very difficult) you will almost have to go with the monk as secondary, any other healing method will probably not be sufficient.
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Killjoy
If you are going to solo you are going to want fast recharge skills such as lava font and immolate, as well as pheonix and inferno. Long cast time spells will eat your lunch if you try to use them so don't bother.
Because you are pretty much gonna be psedo-tanking. The only choice is Mo for your secondary. Anti-casting isn't gonna help you much early in the game.
You are gonna have a serious challange
Because you are pretty much gonna be psedo-tanking. The only choice is Mo for your secondary. Anti-casting isn't gonna help you much early in the game.
You are gonna have a serious challange
NightBaron
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Originally Posted by Angels Touch
If you truly want to "Solo" as in no henchmen (this is very difficult) you will almost have to go with the monk as secondary, any other healing method will probably not be sufficient.
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Killjoy
E/Mes is a great killer.. but in a group.. being a support class and taking the time to drop all matter of unholy AoE on the enemy.
If you want to solo I wouldnt choose ele primary personally, but if that is your wish, you will need to keep yourself alive and mesmer isnt gonna do that for you.
If you want to solo I wouldnt choose ele primary personally, but if that is your wish, you will need to keep yourself alive and mesmer isnt gonna do that for you.
Angels Touch
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Thank you for your post. But If I go to the Monk path, am I strong enough to kill the monsters? some people say E/Mer is a fast killers.
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NightBaron
Thank you for u 2. I guess I will go to Monk route. Another question: is 20 the maximum lv?
theclam
Yes, 20 is the max level. You still get experience points that will give you more skill points every time you "level up", but you won't get additional health or attribute points.
NightBaron
how about the skill point? Do you have enough skill points to learn all the skills for 2 professions? As my calculation, you need more than 100 skill points. However, 20 lv only give you max 25 skill point. So what is the common practice?
sojen
Well, as said above by theclam. When you reach lvl 20, you can continue to 'lvl up'. You dont gain a level, but you do gain skill points. So it is possible to learn all the skills, just depending on how many times you level up.
Mumblyfish
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Originally Posted by sojen
Well, as said above by theclam. When you reach lvl 20, you can continue to 'lvl up'. You dont gain a level, but you do gain skill points. So it is possible to learn all the skills, just depending on how many times you level up.
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That's not a viable way to get skills, I'm sorry.
NightBaron
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Originally Posted by Mumblyfish
21,000 experience to get a skill point past 20.
That's not a viable way to get skills, I'm sorry. |
EinValentine
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21,000 experience to get a skill point past 20.
That's not a viable way to get skills, I'm sorry. |
Oh and that's just the beginning. It just keeps getting worse. Each point takes more xp than the last.
I'm at well over 35k per point and I was talking to someone who said she needed 60k (!) for her next point.
If you have done every skill giving quest you can find and are willing to spend insane amounts of time in the Underworld and Fissure of Woe doing quests after finishing the game you will be able to learn all skills in both your Primary and origimal Secondary. God help you if you want to learn skills in your alternate Secondaries though. (Yes, you can learn a few not terribly useful skills by doing the quests that will open in the earlier parts of the game after you've switched secondaries, but those dry up fast.)
This is my biggest beef with the game. Past a certain point it just becomes ridiculous to try to unlock new skills. Your only reasonable choice is to just start a new character.
Harlas Kije
My mo/ele is level 18 and currently at Aurora Glade. I ahve done all the missions and quests so far with only henchmen. The one and only time I grouped was to get the rez signet at pre-searing. The main problem soloing like this --you need to figure out the right skills to use for the quest/mission you are doing.
Some of them--you are better served taking a tank henchman and buffing him up--and truly playing support. Some quests--especially with undead--load up on smite skills. VS Undead--you do dble damage. Currently--my group (max of 5 henchman) has all range. I do not use the tank henchman due to aggro issues when I do attack.
Some of them--you are better served taking a tank henchman and buffing him up--and truly playing support. Some quests--especially with undead--load up on smite skills. VS Undead--you do dble damage. Currently--my group (max of 5 henchman) has all range. I do not use the tank henchman due to aggro issues when I do attack.
NightBaron
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My mo/ele is level 18 and currently at Aurora Glade. I ahve done all the missions and quests so far with only henchmen. The one and only time I grouped was to get the rez signet at pre-searing. The main problem soloing like this --you need to figure out the right skills to use for the quest/mission you are doing.
Some of them--you are better served taking a tank henchman and buffing him up--and truly playing support. Some quests--especially with undead--load up on smite skills. VS Undead--you do dble damage. Currently--my group (max of 5 henchman) has all range. I do not use the tank henchman due to aggro issues when I do attack. |
I intend to do the same to you, doing quest solo to enjoy the game (I dont need to rush and have lot of time to do quest). Can you post your build? I need to know the effective self-healling skills.
How about the opinion on 1 point skill per skill, is it correct?
C-Tzar
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Originally Posted by Angels Touch
If you truly want to "Solo" as in no henchmen (this is very difficult) you will almost have to go with the monk as secondary, any other healing method will probably not be sufficient.
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SOT
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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer
I would have to strongly agree
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Sir Skullcrasher
that is so damn true, im currently a level 10 as a W/E, and ever time if i can't party up with a monk, i would end up hiring a healer to come on my party!
Epinephrine
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Very much DISagree. The necros blood line as a lot of great life stealing skills that will heal you and damage them at the same time. I'm not saying it's BETTER than a monk secondary, but a very viable alternative. Life Siphon, Vampiric Gaze, Vampiric Touch, and Unholy feast (especially stacked with Aura of restoration) make a E/N a solo force to be reconned with. The E/N build also has the advantage of being able to get the most useful solo skills relatively early in the game. You're milage may vary, but I've found I actually prefer necro over monk when soloing. It's a little harder to play well, but with practice I survive better with that than monk. Keep in mind this is from a guy who actually spends more time as an E/Mo (better for grouping).
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ManadartheHealer
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...The necros...
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C-Tzar
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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer
He said E/Mo or E/Me. But, yes, necros do have an excellent way of healing.
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I also wanted to throw out the option because the OP sounds like he may be new and may not know that necro can be a viable option for a solo artist and my have just not considered it out of ignorance. Especially since it sounds as though they intend to play around solo even as part of their learning (meaning early on) in which case necro could actually be better for them as the helpful soloing skills can be learned very early on.
ManadartheHealer
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Originally Posted by C-Tzar
I wasn't necessarily answering the OP's question, but rather the post that I quoted. Of the two, monk is definatley the better for surviving solo. But the way the quoted post was stated, it sounded like they were saying monk was the only way to survive solo in general.
I also wanted to throw out the option because the OP is obviously new and may not know that necro can be a viable option for a solo artist and my have just not considered it out of ignorance. Especially since it sounds as though they intend to play around solo even as part of their learning (meaning early on) in which case necro could actually be better for them as the helpful soloing skills can be learned very early on. |
NightBaron
Somebody please help me with the skill questions. Should I buy skills from the skill trainers (and lose 1 skill point per perchase) or I can get it elsewhere? I assume u cannot buy all the skills (some skills are not for sales and u dont have enought skill points to buy).
C-Tzar
You can get a LOT (most?) of your skills from quests, which don't require skill points. Also, you get a skill point for every level AND a skill point from every mission completed AND one for every mission bonus completed, AND some quests will give you skill points AND you can keep getting skill points by basically getting lv 20 over and over. Skill points are easy to come by, both of my ascended chars have points left over.
Angels Touch
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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer
I see now. I had thought the quoted post was just referring to the OP's question. But, yes, he should consider necro...
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I wasn't necessarily answering the OP's question, but rather the post that I quoted. Of the two, monk is definatley the better for surviving solo. But the way the quoted post was stated, it sounded like they were saying monk was the only way to survive solo in general.
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I totally agree that a Necro secondary could most likely keep you alive also, and deal damage at the same time. I was just being very specific in my answer to the OP.
NightBaron
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Originally Posted by C-Tzar
You can get a LOT (most?) of your skills from quests, which don't require skill points. Also, you get a skill point for every level AND a skill point from every mission completed AND one for every mission bonus completed, AND some quests will give you skill points AND you can keep getting skill points by basically getting lv 20 over and over. Skill points are easy to come by, both of my ascended chars have points left over.
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C-Tzar
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Actually yes I was just answering the OP, I was only looking at the two classes they listed.
... As far as Necro goes they are a dead class, but of course that is the style of the Necro. (hummor). I totally agree that a Necro secondary could most likely keep you alive also, and deal damage at the same time. I was just being very specific in my answer to the OP. |