Why is it that RANGERS are not wanted when doing like a HoH battle

Aernok

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Appetite For Destruction

R/Mo

Off-topic thought.

Can you imagine how much rangers would be wanted if expertise worked on secondary skills?

"What's that, heal party for 5 energy?"

Qenelder

Qenelder

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oklahoma

Guardians of the Abyss

R/E

Yes, theat would be nice

Qenelder

Qenelder

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oklahoma

Guardians of the Abyss

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that was fun 2 w/mon and r/m and r/e (me) we survived like 6 competitors matches

eA-Zaku

eA-Zaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Moa Bird. No one sees that coming with lvl 12-15 beast mastery. Supposedly some guy on this forum kicked ass in PvP with a high beast mastery and Moa Bird.

Qenelder

Qenelder

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oklahoma

Guardians of the Abyss

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wow nice

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsaradhi

so wats the best secondary profession for a ranger? i was thinking of making a ranger/necro...but any suggestions?
It depends on what you want to do.

I'm a R/N but I honestly do not use ANY of my Necromancer skills mainstream. The only one I DO use, rarely, is Parasitic Bond in PvE to help with a little health regen while buried in a mob.

I just have no room for anything else.

Dual Shot, Troll Unguent, Kindle Arrows/Ignite Arrows, Hunter's Shot/Distracting Shot, Call of Protection, Healing Trap/Resurrection Signet, Comfort Animal, Charm Animal.

Granted, I'm only up to Anmoon Oasis so no elite skills yet.

eA-Zaku

eA-Zaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

If you just removed one (or BOTH ) of the animal skills you will have room.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

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Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Marauder
I have a lvl 20 W/Mo and a lvl 20 Ranger, both ascended, and I feel that the ranger is a more balanced and better class than a warrior, and is more fun to play as well. Being the most balanced class in GW, rangers don't need to group with anyone else but rangers. A group of 8 rangers, with some specializing in traps and some in anti-caster roles, but all with Troll Unguent, is a perfectly balanced group that can stand toe in toe with groups of any other combination.

And how does my ranger beat a W/Mo? Whenever a warrior runs toward me, I use Throw Dirt to blind him for 9 sec then put a barbed trap under his feet. Then run a few steps back, put a Dust Trap to blind him for another 9 sec, and keep pumping tons of poison arrows and hunter arrows (with fire prep) into him. Not to mention I have a Troll Unguent with +9 Health regeneration in case he wants to get personal. No W/Mo, not even a primary monk, can purge these many conditions time after time. So while two warriors can kill a ranger, a single W/Mo is no match to a single ranger. This comes from my experience as a W/Mo and a R/Mo
Perfect, this post is perfect....so perfect.

I would love to shake your hand...perfect. You said it so perfectly.
Rangers are not bad at all.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

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Quote:
Originally Posted by eA-Zaku

If you just removed one (or BOTH ) of the animal skills you will have room.
Room for what?

Qenelder

Qenelder

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oklahoma

Guardians of the Abyss

R/E

I wished more ppl loved us rangers like you guys do lol

Brother Mhenlo

Brother Mhenlo

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Join Date: May 2005

Michigan

Gangstas in the Hood [HooD], The Impossible is Possible [DUPE]

settle down i was just kidding about rangers being bad...

Silver Spectre

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Join Date: Jun 2005

England

SteamPowered (SP)

R/Mo

Rangers suck!

J/k

They are my favourite build type, i play just ranger, nothing else and it works soo well. I find that you don't get the full advantages if you don't play pure ranger. You kinda need skills such as troll Unguent, kindle arrows, apply poison, duel shot, barrage, tigers fury, and the other two can be filled with a disabling/distracting shot skill, and something else of your choise, maybe another stance, maybe rez signet... they compliment each other.

Warmaster Ric

Warmaster Ric

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Join Date: May 2005

My yard, Wolverhampton, England.

none (Yet)

R/Me

Rangers Rule!

Take it from me. My R/Me owns especially in team events, ie. Guild Battles and what not. All I do is single someone out, usually Monks, Add a bit of Backfire, Energy Burn and Pin Down. Then use attacks like Power Shot to go in for the kill.

Sorted.

Paine

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Clan Plus [Plus]

I have a big experience with rangers. They suck no matter what. They all suck!
My two cents: Create a new character.

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

i think its because people wont take a chance on a good ranger when 99% of rangers are noobs who shoot pathetically low dps arrows and then run from the battle with the first sign of trouble

honestly, ill take another monk as support than a ranger anyday

Qenelder

Qenelder

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oklahoma

Guardians of the Abyss

R/E

Now that was fun, went into a comp arena battle near end everyone was dead except me and a opposing ranger (with pet) both of us had already used our rez so it was just a boxing match, I won our little fight lasted like 7 mins she got me down but i have whirling def and throw dirt up and i have troll ungent so ya she only hit me when thos wore off and ya, it was fun one on ones are always fun they should make a 1 on 1 arena

CryingWolf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

1 on 1 arena would rock!!!

I built a Ranger during the bwe weekend events and yes I am a noob, but I can hold my own at times. I think it takes just as much skill to play a Ranger, if not more, then it does to play a Mesmer, more of a thinking class. My highest character I have in sear is a E/Mo which is almost a no brainer to play. I can hand this character to most people who have never really played and they can own. But my Ranger builds (two of them) take a little more skill and control to play right. You have to know at just the right times to do what and where.

If they did have a 1 on 1 arena I am sure you would really see Rangers owning that one. Love to see the the look on the warrior's face when they are turned into a blind, poisoned, pin cushion laying dead in a smoking trap!!!

blkbelt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

I'm extremely confused. I getting my new pc next week and i really want to play this game and i was thinking of making a R/Mo. but if other groups wont add you to the groups, isnt that a problem? i a total team player, and i would love to annoy my opponents during battles. should i just create something other than a ranger?

Qenelder

Qenelder

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oklahoma

Guardians of the Abyss

R/E

Want to hear a funny story that happened to night for real, ok you'll hear

I decided to turn my Ranger into full out Rituals, ok well one of those rituals was Edge of Extinction (When a creature dies all creatures of same type are hit for ?? damage) well my damage on mine was like set to 40, and during the HoH arena where its one on one, i was laying down like rituals every second and edge was going up alot every 60 secs maybe a little less i had qz up to, well all of the sudden we all wipe bothj us and the koreans, no clue why then we thought on it we think because of Edge of Extinction. becasue i had alot up and since it damages area when one dies, that one died then another died cause of that effect causing huge chain reaction and killing everyone in battle, least thats the only explanation we can think of.. anywho koreans were yelling something in korean who knows what, we got ported out and were like all laughing... i mean no one won every one wiped it was funny. just think if you could harnass that lol... dont mess with us rangers and our rituals lol

(actualy our grp wanted to do it again just to see a total wipe but we didnt lol we had ppl leave cause of like rl stuff)

Asrial

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

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Rituals don't stack so I suspect what happened is that you killed a guy and everyone got hit for 40. ..but another guy was under 40 so he died, which is another 40. Guy #3 was under 80, so another 40. Guy #4 was under 120 so another 40, and so on.

Get a group clustered on you, drop Edge of Extinction then Death Nova on yourself. Buhbye!

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

Rangers were never really seen as useful. Even when they were unbelievable before the big nerf. But they were nerfed to hard. Now rangers are less than mediocre, even while being played by the best of the best.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue

Rangers were never really seen as useful. Even when they were unbelievable before the big nerf. But they were nerfed to hard. Now rangers are less than mediocre, even while being played by the best of the best.
That's because everyone has the 'must win at all cost' mindset, even when they just don't have the tactical skill and intelligence to back it up, and so they stick with the traditional cookie cutters that all the other 'winning' players use.

To make the class powerful, you have to get people to believe in it and find the powerful combinations.

Right now, sounds like people believe in a warrior/monk or an air elementalist.